Some dude around my way, has this honda civic hatcback that is like a 93 and he has a TSI or a GSI motor, or something like that? I never herd of it. And something about a turbo, but I honestly think hes bluffing about the turbo. But he says that hes seen my max around town and I consume no threat on him. Now im an auto, with full exhaust, Y pipe, Stillen Hybrid Intake, some goodies. Would I have a chance against him?

Explain to me about this GSI or TSI. cause I wanna know about it.

Let me know, thanx

Nick

 

hmm well i am no motor buff, but i remember the TSI models on the talons! all-wheel drive turbo baby! I couldn't find a good one around here so I bought a maxima hehe. I think the GSi is for the mitsu eclipse?

Either way, don't race a civic! cmon nick, u know better than that

 

Are you sure it wasn't a GS-R? That is one of the fastest USDM Integra motors, and can be easily fitted with a turbo and implanted into a Civic hatchback. It will eat your car alive and spare nothing. Or he could be talking out of his a$$ about everything like every other Civic I see.
-Cyrus

 

Uh, i dont know about that. My buddy has a GSR and weve raced. His car is quick. But not crazy quick. I still beat him. On the highway im sure it might be different

 

An early 90's civic hatch weighs less than 2000 lbs. With a GS-R swap and a turbo he will make you look like your standing still.

I know everyone here likes to make fun of Hondas, especially civics, but you will learn real quick what a civic can do in the right hands. I'd stay away from those older hatches.

 

You could probably win if all he did was swap in the GS-R motor, but with a turbo he will walk all over you.

 

heh, And i was tellin his friend hes no match for me. looks like ill have to wait till i see him again, to tell him I was wrong about my decision lol. And if it is true, I would still like to see it.

Thanx guys, later

Nick

 

I still doubt he would take it, he has an auto and is a 1000lbs heavier.

 

Are autos really that much slower? I mean, how much really slower is an auto compared to a 5spd max? I have raced my friend that has a 5spd, but he dont have the mods i do, and I stuck with him, even notched on him a little. It cant be THAT bad to have an auto?

 

Yeah.. now that I think about it more, you'r prolly going to loose either way.

 

More than half a second in the 1/4 mile.

 

you fools, a civic is not less than 2000 pounds more like 2300, stock, add in a gsr motor which weigh much more than stock ure looking around 2500, read up b4 u post

 

With just a GSR motor and bolt ons in a 93 Hatch he'd be good for high 13s if he can drive... add a turbo to the equation and you get the picture. If he's telling even HALF the truth (just the motor or just the turbo) you don't have a snowball's chance in hell.

 

I think he might have a GSR motor with a turbo. Even if he just have the GSR motor, you'll be toast. Don't feel bad, even most N/A 5spd Maxima would have a hard time against one, nevermind an auto Maxima. If he really does have the turbo too, don't even think about it.

 

I remember my old '88 CRX Si was around 1800lb .. God I miss that car sometimes. It's so small, agile and quick.

 

He probably saying he had a GS-R engine with T25 turbo that came from a 2nd gen eclipse/talon....

 

you know i'm really wondering what would happen if we spent as much money and as much mods (engine swap..etc) on our maxima's, how would that be like? i mean, pop in the VQ35 from the 5th gen, y-pipe, intake, cam shafts, underpulley, and to finish it off pop in a turbo or a S/C.

how would that be like?

 

I dont realy know how the auto compares to 5spd, but my boy had a bulit up b16 mtor from a 2000 si in a 93 hatchback and i beat him quater mile by about 1 car , so this is probubly how it would end up if you had a 5spd and he had no turbo, he wont beat you by much th. The is no way he does a 13.9 without a turbo like some dumba$$ saaid earlier. Just race him

 

Think before you type.

 

just RACE! and if he starts to win, clip him and throw him into a spinout and you'll win.

 

whether or not hes bluffing, i dont know, but if he wins hes not. he was probably trying to say that he has gsr motor, with some type eclipse/talon hybrid turbo. i can tell you from exprience what these cars a capable of.
a kid that i race with sometimes in the summer, comes around and embarrases the Ls1 cars, and even some Ls6's. hes got a 95' hatchback, with gsr motor and gsr rebuilt 5speed trans, and a turbo. with just the motor and bolt ons he was running very low 14's high 13's. he hasnt gone to the track with the turbo in, but at only 6lbs of boost, (cant run higher than that due to traction because car is so light)but at 6lbs of boost he beat a high 13s trans am by 3-4 cars and a low 13s camaro SS by about 2 cars, we figure hes running high 12's. if you have the time and the money and effort, you can do alot to those cars because of their wieght factor.

 

lol i bet the clubsi forum is laughing their asses off right now

 

hu cares, stock vs stock we can pi$$ on um... Hondas a joke and i hate when people even mention them on this forum beacuse i know lots of people wioth them and they have all kinds of bullsh!t on them and i just laugh when i beat them.

 

search on honda sites to see what those sorta swaps do for power. or simply ask him what he races...that's what i would do. although i don't care if someone says they can whip my auto max because i didn't buy it to be intimidating and crazy fast. i bought it cuz it's quick for what it is and i like the reliability and the way it looks. or just race him

 

I've seen a few civic H/B's with GSRs, cams, port & polish head, and few bolt-ons smoke mustangs and camaros like they're grocery go-getters...So if he's telling the truth HE'LL SMOKE YOU. By the way Civics CAN run low 14s high 13s with a transplant and a couple of bolt ons. But they still don't look as good as we do

 

personally i have seen quite a few of nice looking civics. the super modded ones with wing, and all that stuff dont look good, but some do. and "just a civic" isnt that bad, they are reliable, huge aftermarket, very moddable. and most start off buying them because they cant afford better, like a maxima, but some do buy them to make them 12sec cars. but then there are some that think if they buy a used civic and put an apc wing, with huge muffler and k&n filter they can mess with vettes.

 

If he has a B16, with at least i/h/e itll be close but in his favor.
If he has a B18C1, GSR motor, with the GSR trans, similar race as with the B16, but if he has the Y1 tranny instead of the GSR tranny with the B18C1, the civic has the upper hand. The first time my friend went to the track with his B16 CRX, he was running low low 15s all day with 2.5x 60fts, and his car had an auto b16 ECU, which gave him a shorter rev limiter of 7600 instead of 8200. Short shifting with horrible launches, and was still able to manage what most modded auto maximas run as best times.

 

It was my dumba$$ that said he could be in 13s with just the motor. If you think that's not possible you need to get to the track some more sonny. Just because your friend can't drive for **** doesn't mean everyone else in the world sucks at driving too.