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Old 03-30-2003 | 01:42 AM
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my max (auto) v.s. his GSR (5spd)

hey guys...need ur analysis and opinion between me and him:

me: BOMz CAI, K&N filter, y-pipe (install within couple days), a'pexi N1 muffler, FSTB, RSB, runnin stock 15" tires

him: AEM CAI, greddy SP catback, BBK 70MM Throttle Body, Apex'i VAFC
, cams and camshafts (donno wat brand), JDM ITR Front Strut Bar, stock RSB, Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 Tires 15", 15" Slate Konig Greenlight Wheels, Koni Adjustable Struts (Yellows), Skunk2 Camber Kit, Skunk2 Coilovers

if straight off the line...waz the deal here?
Old 03-30-2003 | 04:56 AM
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You will loose, cuz he got mad vtec y0!
Old 03-30-2003 | 05:25 AM
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Re: my max (auto) v.s. his GSR (5spd)

You will get owned... BADLY!

Originally posted by happyricefob
hey guys...need ur analysis and opinion between me and him:

me: BOMz CAI, K&N filter, y-pipe (install within couple days), a'pexi N1 muffler, FSTB, RSB, runnin stock 15" tires

him: AEM CAI, greddy SP catback, BBK 70MM Throttle Body, Apex'i VAFC
, cams and camshafts (donno wat brand), JDM ITR Front Strut Bar, stock RSB, Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 Tires 15", 15" Slate Konig Greenlight Wheels, Koni Adjustable Struts (Yellows), Skunk2 Camber Kit, Skunk2 Coilovers

if straight off the line...waz the deal here?
Old 03-30-2003 | 05:32 AM
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Re: Re: my max (auto) v.s. his GSR (5spd)

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You will get owned... BADLY!

Old 03-30-2003 | 05:47 AM
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Get a 5speed and then you could be able to take him
Old 03-30-2003 | 07:04 AM
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A VB mod may help.
Old 03-30-2003 | 07:36 AM
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you need a LITTLE more than a CAI, y-pipe, and muffler to take that GS-R especially if he has that V-TEC controller set at 3k rpms.
Old 03-30-2003 | 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by UNCDooD
you need a LITTLE more than a CAI, y-pipe, and muffler to take that GS-R especially if he has that V-TEC controller set at 3k rpms.
He would most likely loose hp if vtec was set to come in at 3000, thats like us setting the VI to come in at 4000, there would be a power drop before it picked back up again. But..... he would still loose.
Old 03-30-2003 | 10:01 AM
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He would most likely loose hp if vtec was set to come in at 3000, thats like us setting the VI to come in at 4000, there would be a power drop before it picked back up again. But..... he would still loose.
Yeah,if though vtec were set that low that car will be more likely loose power,the best setting I read mag so far are about 4700,
Old 03-30-2003 | 10:02 AM
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stock for stock its a good race, but hes got you here, sorry
Old 03-30-2003 | 10:07 AM
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you're going to have to admire his tail lights
Old 03-30-2003 | 10:58 AM
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Vtec motors with CAM... And you don't even know what kind of cams.Cams do wonders for Hondas. That car is probably low-mid 14s or something like that.
Old 03-30-2003 | 11:24 AM
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You're losing, sorry.
Old 03-30-2003 | 12:26 PM
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YA hel beat you

But y do you guys think vtech is so good, i think its a joke
Old 03-30-2003 | 12:28 PM
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Cams would make that car pretty sick. If he knows what hes doing ive seen guys adjust and tune their cams to get pretty wild.
Old 03-30-2003 | 12:53 PM
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Well you can't really say it's a joke because it really does work. If tuned right as Flavor247 said it can be a pretty lethal car. Example I had a friend that had an Integra LS 2000 Manual. Those cars run a 16.1 around there quarter mile on average. All he added was JG Cams and AEM CAI and he ran 15 flat on street tires. That is pretty damn good for just two mods. We aren't jocking Vtec but we are saying that it can be lethal if used right same with every other car in this world.

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hmm...he's got a sedan as well... will tat matter too much? also if i add a catback how will it affect the outcome of the race?
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You will just get owned just as hard with a catback. It will make no difference with your level of mods.
Unless you get a real power adder like a supercharger or nitrous, you won't be able to keep up.

Originally posted by happyricefob
hmm...he's got a sedan as well... will tat matter too much? also if i add a catback how will it affect the outcome of the race?
Old 03-30-2003 | 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by maxspeed96CT
YA hel beat you

But y do you guys think vtech is so good, i think its a joke
vtech makes nice phones. i have one in my room actually. but back to the topic, VTEC is quite impressive at what kind of power it can draw out of those small motors. Drive an S2000 or Prelude, and say that you can't feel VTEC, those 2 cars have the loudest and most noticeable crossover. Any DOHC VTEC Honda, take it on the road, and pick a nice gear and go about 1000rpm below VTEC engagement, and floor it, and see how the cars power changes as it engages.
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vtech makes nice phones. i have one in my room actually. but back to the topic, VTEC is quite impressive at what kind of power it can draw out of those small motors. Drive an S2000 or Prelude, and say that you can't feel VTEC, those 2 cars have the loudest and most noticeable crossover. Any DOHC VTEC Honda, take it on the road, and pick a nice gear and go about 1000rpm below VTEC engagement, and floor it, and see how the cars power changes as it engages.
Vtech -vtec-v-tek , its all the same **** , i was gona buy a 97 prelude and i know the max is much faster.
Old 03-30-2003 | 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by maxspeed96CT


Vtech -vtec-v-tek , its all the same **** , i was gona buy a 97 prelude and i know the max is much faster.
Race a 97 SH on the highway and tell me which is faster
Old 03-30-2003 | 06:05 PM
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Actually, I've raced a 5 speed SH on the highway and I won. I'm auto too.. I won twice. We stopped at a light at the end of the highway and the owner thought I had a 5 speed and lots of mods. All I had was y-pipe and intake at the time. I think this is more of a case that he couldn't drive though. =P Not too hard to race while moving already though. I dono!

Originally posted by Jamsan

Race a 97 SH on the highway and tell me which is faster
Old 03-30-2003 | 06:49 PM
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Well you can't really say it's a joke because it really does work. If tuned right as Flavor247 said it can be a pretty lethal car. Example I had a friend that had an Integra LS 2000 Manual. Those cars run a 16.1 around there quarter mile on average. All he added was JG Cams and AEM CAI and he ran 15 flat on street tires. That is pretty damn good for just two mods. We aren't jocking Vtec but we are saying that it can be lethal if used right same with every other car in this world.

LS Integras don't have v-tec...But I believe the rest
Old 03-30-2003 | 08:13 PM
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daymn...i never knew the combination of cams+camshafts+V-AFC can push the VTEC technology so well =X thx for all various analysis and inputs guys =)

yea... i want my next car either RSX type-s or integra GSR =) i want to enjoy the high-end hehe...
Old 03-30-2003 | 08:15 PM
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I believe the GS-R sedan is only about 40lbs heavier than the coupe. If it has the same mods as the sedan, it will still get owned.. Just not as fast. Put it this way.

My friend used to have a GS-R with intake and full exhaust. That's it. I thin I had just intake at the time. Not sure. We raced from a 60mph roll. 60-90 I was a bumper a head of him. 100 cam around and he walked right past me and kept going. Part of it was the 5 speed, part of it was the engine's superior high end from VTEC. If you wanna even have a chance. Stop racing at about 80.

ZuM

Originally posted by happyricefob
hmm...he's got a sedan as well... will tat matter too much? also if i add a catback how will it affect the outcome of the race?
Old 03-30-2003 | 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by maxspeed96CT


Vtech -vtec-v-tek , its all the same **** , i was gona buy a 97 prelude and i know the max is much faster.
Don't under estimate those Intergra GSR 5 sp,if they got headwork,cams and other stuff.They can break into 13sec NA.
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Here's your "competition": http://www.silent-reverie.com/dlo/integra/


Okay here's the story...

Kev, why would I ever race on the street? Unless you wanna pay for gas up to Sac Raceway =P

Anyway, the mods that actually matter in a straightline on my car are:
'00 Integra Type R Cams
Skunk2 Cam Gears (+1 exhuast, -2 intake)
Apex'i VAFC (very, very roughly tuned from quick dyno run)
Homemade PVC Piping from airbox to turn signal (my AEM CAI's mounting bracket broke off, and it was raining too so I made a quick fix Competch Icebox-style to avoid hydrolock)
GReddy SP Catback Exhuast
My wheels are 13 lbs, with the Kumhos

The BBK TB I got rid of, i still have stock (cracked POS) header and cat.

My VTEC is set to 4900 (stock is 4400, ITR is 5700 and i compromised in the middle since I have the dual-butterfly GSR intake manifold still). Since the B18C1 runs rich throughout most of the powerband, it's leaned out a bit with the most drastic change around 4000-5000. I haven't dyno'd it yet, but before the cams with just the exhuast I had a 151.8 HP and 112.8 TQ. With the cams, DIY intake, cam gears and tuning i'm hoping to at least break 160.

The sedan is 80 lbs heavier and 8 in. longer than the GSR Coupe.

But yeah. Just clearing the facts on the opponent car. Before any negative comments come on anything about my car, I don't street race or go around revving on people; I just do it for the hobby.
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Originally posted by dLo aZn
Here's your "competition": http://www.silent-reverie.com/dlo/integra/

Okay here's the story...

Kev, why would I ever race on the street? Unless you wanna pay for gas up to Sac Raceway =P

Anyway, the mods that actually matter in a straightline on my car are:
'00 Integra Type R Cams
Skunk2 Cam Gears (+1 exhuast, -2 intake)
Apex'i VAFC (very, very roughly tuned from quick dyno run)
Homemade PVC Piping from airbox to turn signal (my AEM CAI's mounting bracket broke off, and it was raining too so I made a quick fix Competch Icebox-style to avoid hydrolock)
GReddy SP Catback Exhuast
My wheels are 13 lbs, with the Kumhos

The BBK TB I got rid of, i still have stock (cracked POS) header and cat.

My VTEC is set to 4900 (stock is 4400, ITR is 5700 and i compromised in the middle since I have the dual-butterfly GSR intake manifold still). Since the B18C1 runs rich throughout most of the powerband, it's leaned out a bit with the most drastic change around 4000-5000. I haven't dyno'd it yet, but before the cams with just the exhuast I had a 151.8 HP and 112.8 TQ. With the cams, DIY intake, cam gears and tuning i'm hoping to at least break 160.

The sedan is 80 lbs heavier and 8 in. longer than the GSR Coupe.

But yeah. Just clearing the facts on the opponent car. Before any negative comments come on anything about my car, I don't street race or go around revving on people; I just do it for the hobby.
oOoo... I C I C!!!
Old 03-31-2003 | 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by happyricefob


oOoo... I C I C!!!
lol...j/k i got really curious with camshafts and its wonder on GSRs, although stock v.s. stock it'll be a good run, but i never expect the boast of cams + VTEC will be tat great =) hehe... good car, i will always respect ur car!
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GSR, pretty damn quick cars, but auto max, will not cut it.
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Originally posted by Jamsan

Race a 97 SH on the highway and tell me which is faster
WERD
Ya tell that moron Jamsan .How would a prelude be faster on the highway , i know its definatly slower cause its a 4 banger, a i raced a 96 style wit H22 and **** all over it.
Old 03-31-2003 | 05:20 AM
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YA hel beat you

But y do you guys think vtech is so good, i think its a joke
Why is VTEC a joke? It's doing something right to be able to allow a V6 Accord pull on a stock auto.
Old 03-31-2003 | 05:29 AM
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Why is VTEC a joke? It's doing something right to be able to allow a V6 Accord pull on a stock auto.
What year accord, its not the vtec its just alittle lighter,and a 4thegn 5speed could take a auto 2003,and auto2k2 vs auto auto accord the max would win.
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