Is pushing down on the front/rear end a good way to compare stiffness of suspensions?
Is pushing down on the front/rear end a good way to compare stiffness of suspensions?
I ask because I have driven my sister's 99 EXV6 accord and I have not been able to tell too striking of a difference in the handling. Let me tell you, though, that I have not had the nerve to really drive it like I drive my max cause...you know...it's not my car. But just driving normally I don't see too much of a difference. So I'm thinking: My max is supposed to have a sport-tuned suspension. I've driven a 99 GLE before and I could tell a difference b/w that car and mine (thankfully). But no diff b/w mine and the accord. But anyway, I'm thinking that a sport tuned suspension means stiffer ride, a drawback to better handling. A stiffer ride means stiffer springs and a higher damping coefficient for the shocks or struts, right? So if I were to push down on the front end of the car, it should be harder to push down for a car with a sport tuned suspension, right? I've tried it on my mother's lesabre and it bounces a couple of times. No surprise considering how smooth it rides. (Heavier cars ride smoother, I know, but it's only about 400 lbs more than the max.) I tried it on the accord, though, and it seems stiffer than my max; it's easier to push down the max than the accord. Somebody explain this to me. Maybe I didn't feel comfortable pushing on it either, since it's new (to my sister anyway).
Actually the 98-02 Accords have a much rougher suspension than the 4th Generation Maximas...... assumng that the suspensions are stock..... The Accord's suspension is stiffer but will tend to break loose a good bit easier than a Maxima SE... The Maxima has a better and smoother ride and better all around handling in my opinion...
Hmm. That has just made me have to reevaluate my feelings about my car. So reasons for having my max over a V6 accord...First of all there's still the 5-speed thing. Then it looks better, shape wheels, etc. And although initial new car cost was greater for the max, it depreciated faster, making it cheaper when I was ready to buy. Man, that could be it. Oh yeah, I guess more mods available, right? Anyone pieced together a turbo for a four or 6 cyl accord? What about s/c? Oh yeah another question. The accord I was talking about was the sedan. The coupe isn't all that different with respect to suspension from the sedan is it?
Pushing on a suspension will tell you as much about how it'll handle just about as much as the color of a chick's hair will tell you how good she is in bed.....
You've got to really.... errr... drive it.
Accord = true indep. rear
-RMB
You've got to really.... errr... drive it.
Accord = true indep. rear
-RMB
I agree...... the only true way to feel the difference is to really drive both cars rather hard..... I dont know how the suspension on the accors is set up, but I dont really care for its road handling capabilities for an every day driver..... Another thing that I dont care for is the level of road noise in the Accord...... Its a good, reliable car, but I prefer the Maxima.....
Re: Is pushing down on the front/rear end a good way to compare stiffness of suspensions?
Pushing on the car will give you a hint about the stiffness of the springs on the car. Does that translate to anything about the ride/handling of the car...absolutely not. That is affect by too many other factors like wieght, location of wheels relative the center of gravity, and suspension geometry to name a few. Also, it will tell you nothing about the dampers. The force they produce is proporional to the rate at which they are compressing/extending where as springs producea forcethatis only proportional to how much it is deformed. The only useful info you can get by pushing down on the car is a crude estimate of the condition of the dampers. If it bounces, they are worn out. That's about it
Re: Re: Is pushing down on the front/rear end a good way to compare stiffness of suspensions?
Originally posted by engineerdawg
Pushing on the car will give you a hint about the stiffness of the springs on the car. Does that translate to anything about the ride/handling of the car...absolutely not. That is affect by too many other factors like wieght, location of wheels relative the center of gravity, and suspension geometry to name a few. Also, it will tell you nothing about the dampers. The force they produce is proporional to the rate at which they are compressing/extending where as springs producea forcethatis only proportional to how much it is deformed. The only useful info you can get by pushing down on the car is a crude estimate of the condition of the dampers. If it bounces, they are worn out. That's about it
Pushing on the car will give you a hint about the stiffness of the springs on the car. Does that translate to anything about the ride/handling of the car...absolutely not. That is affect by too many other factors like wieght, location of wheels relative the center of gravity, and suspension geometry to name a few. Also, it will tell you nothing about the dampers. The force they produce is proporional to the rate at which they are compressing/extending where as springs producea forcethatis only proportional to how much it is deformed. The only useful info you can get by pushing down on the car is a crude estimate of the condition of the dampers. If it bounces, they are worn out. That's about it
Originally posted by rmb
Pushing on a suspension will tell you as much about how it'll handle just about as much as the color of a chick's hair will tell you how good she is in bed.....
You've got to really.... errr... drive it.
Accord = true indep. rear
-RMB
Pushing on a suspension will tell you as much about how it'll handle just about as much as the color of a chick's hair will tell you how good she is in bed.....
You've got to really.... errr... drive it.
Accord = true indep. rear
-RMB
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