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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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What makes an SE an SE?

Exactly as the title says... is it the suspension, if so what about it?
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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White Gauge faces, A Body-colored grill, a wing, 5 spoke rims, "sport" suspension, no speed limiter, ummmm, i am prolly forgetting something, but uhhh yeah
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by 97blackSE
White Gauge faces, A Body-colored grill, a wing, 5 spoke rims, "sport" suspension, no speed limiter, ummmm, i am prolly forgetting something, but uhhh yeah
someone fill in for me
you left out that the SE has 200000 extra horse power :P j/k
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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what makes the sports suspension differeent from the "other" suspension?
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by waveridr85
what makes the sports suspension differeent from the "other" suspension?
Stiffer, like a 12 y/o **** his first trip to HOOTERS
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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body color trim and door handles, foglights, perf leather wrapped steering wheel. SE-L badging and floor mats (99 SE-L only).
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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all in all u can make any level trim maxima into another...w/ an exception of some option like climate control...only difference is in the 2 letter "s" "e"...
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:47 PM
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all in all u can make any level trim maxima into another...w/ an exception of some option like climate control...only difference is in the 2 letter "s" "e"...
That you can but its not worth it in some case because of cost. I dont see anyone putting in Anti-lock brakes or putting in the Bose System
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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That you can but its not worth it in some case because of cost. I dont see anyone putting in Anti-lock brakes or putting in the Bose System
Hey, you gotta pic of your car on 99 SE wheels... I'd like to see how that looks... what size tires you rollin??

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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 04:36 AM
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 06:27 AM
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I have a 98 SE and I had a friend that had a 98 GXE. The ride in the GXE and GLE is so much different from that of the SE. The SE's stiff suspension makes cornering so much better but at the price of a slightly bumpy ride.
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WHAT MAKES THE SUSPENsion Different!!!! how is it stiffer? is it spring? stuts? shock? , im asking because i plan on modding my suspension, i dont wanna mod parts of it that dont need to be modded
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by waveridr85
WHAT MAKES THE SUSPENsion Different!!!! how is it stiffer? is it spring? stuts? shock? , im asking because i plan on modding my suspension, i dont wanna mod parts of it that dont need to be modded
I'm not that mechanically inclined to explain what make it stiffer.
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On Auto SE models the front springs are the same as they are on GLEs and GXEs. On the manual the sprign is a little stiffer than the GXE manual springs.

The rears are stiffer on SEs versus GLE/GXE models regardless of transmission choice.

It is true that you can make a GLE or GXE into an SE with a few small touches. What is difficult to do is make a GLE into an SE manual.

Overall, if you want an auto and plan to mod it, start w/ a GLE or a loaded SE. You cannot easily add the climate control or the Bose (who wants to add that?!?), but you can always take SE trim and door handles and add them to a GLE.

If I could have picked my car I would have bought an SE w/ the sunroof and climate control, but I would have left off leather and the alloy rims, and I really would not care about the suspension because that is all out and gone now, as are the rims and tires. I also added the SE gauges. Right now, except for the chrome handles and window trim and the woodgrain interior trim, my car could be mistaken for an SE. It will outhandle a stock SE, has better looking rims, and has all of the functional advantages that an SE has with all of the luxuries of the GLE.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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well, back in the day in nissan's descriptions and sales brochures.

they also used to list the gle and se models with fluid gel filled motor mounts compared to the gxe which didn't.

not exactly sure what this did for the ride of the car and less vibration but this was definitely one of their standard features listed.

where exactly did you find out that the spring rates differ from the auto to manual. finding out oem spring rates from any manufacture is almost impossible unless tested independently. most companies in general in the price category of the maxima just used slightly stiffer valved shocks for the firmer suspension. usually being the key word.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by gaxima


Hey, you gotta pic of your car on 99 SE wheels... I'd like to see how that looks... what size tires you rollin??

-Robert
The one that I am selling (91SE)? NO, but I will take one this afternoon and post it. Its still running with the stock rubber which I am not sure what size it is? I'll let you know later.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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GLE/GXE tires are 205/45/15, SE tires are 215/45/15 on stock rides... but who really cares?
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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i thought the difference in suspension were the shocks?
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by nadir_s
i thought the difference in suspension were the shocks?
I was just going based on what I was told. Honestly, your explaination makes more sense..
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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GLE/GXE tires are 205/45/15, SE tires are 215/45/15 on stock rides... but who really cares?
GLE/GXE are 205/65/15. SE are either 205/65 or 215/60. 97-99.5 are 215/55/16.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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if I could have picked my car I would have bought an SE w/ the sunroof and climate control, but I would have left off leather and the alloy rims,
you can get every option you can get on a GLE on an SE, its just that the GLE comes with everything standard. My friend has a 96 SE with leather, sunroof, bose, climate control, etc etc...




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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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you can get every option you can get on a GLE on an SE, its just that the GLE comes with everything standard. My friend has a 96 SE with leather, sunroof, bose, climate control, etc etc...

eric
I know, but finding one like that used is really difficult. If I could have found one, that is what I would have bought...particularly the sunroof and climate control.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by nadir_s
i thought the difference in suspension were the shocks?
The springs make the most difference. Stiff springs, stiff ride, soft springs, soft ride. Shocks just control the damping of the oscillations from the springs. You can have some really beefed up shocks, but that will kill the amount of response the springs give to the road. Or you can have really wimpy shocks, and when you hit a bump, your car will bounce forever (which can be dangerous as you can lose control). Shocks should damp the bouncing after about 1 1/2 bounces maximum if you put weight on a corner and let off.

Shocks need to be changed when springs are changed (assuming changed ride height) because the if the ride height is lower, the shocks will be worn out faster because they are not operating where they normally would.

Adjustable shocks allow a softer or stiffer ride by changing the amount of damping available. Obviously, the more damped, the stiffer the ride. As with anything, you have to compromise and sacrifice some performance characteristics if you want to increase another.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by phenryiv1


I know, but finding one like that used is really difficult. If I could have found one, that is what I would have bought...particularly the sunroof and climate control.
gotcha...thats too bad, it was difficult NOT finding one like that in my area. Most are SE's or GLE with autos and full of options i didnt want (like climate control, bose, leather)




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Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp


gotcha...thats too bad, it was difficult NOT finding one like that in my area. Most are SE's or GLE with autos and full of options i didnt want (like climate control, bose, leather)




eric
Yeah, I could sure do w/o the leather and the Bose. I don't mind the leather as much as I thought I would, but I hate the fact that it raised the price to where it was more than I wanted to pay for unnecessary options...
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Originally posted by phenryiv1


GLE/GXE are 205/65/15. SE are either 205/65 or 215/60. 97-99.5 are 215/55/16.
thx for correcting... but oh well i don't think stock tires are this thread's main concern anywayZ n:
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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95-96 SE's i heard had options like spoiler or no spoiler, and leather or no leather. am i right?
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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The auto se's also have electronically controlled engine mounts that get stiffer under acceleration.
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