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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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brake line replacement...what size flare-nut wrench?

Hey everyone. I am planning on installing the Goodridge break lines Friday. I was reading through the write-up in the Haynes manual. It told me I would need a flare-nut wrench. What size do I need? Thanks.

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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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Re: brake line replacement...what size flare-nut wrench?

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Hey everyone. I am planning on installing the Goodridge break lines Friday. I was reading through the write-up in the Haynes manual. It told me I would need a flare-nut wrench. What size do I need? Thanks.

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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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I'm 99% sure its 10mm
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by ejj
10mm
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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you can remove about 45% of the car with a 10mm...
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Originally posted by redmaxpa007
you can remove about 45% of the car with a 10mm...
But you really need a flare wrench for the fittings on the brake lines. Otherwise you'll strip 'em.
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Originally posted by redmaxpa007
you can remove about 45% of the car with a 10mm...
Agreed 10mm flare nut wrench is what you want. Vise grips are good just in case.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by xHypex

Agreed 10mm flare nut wrench is what you want. Vise grips are good just in case.
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and a big sledge hammer too....
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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and a big sledge hammer too....
sledge hammer ....?
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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sledge hammer ....?

when you get mad and you strip the nut and you mess somthing up.. you take the sledge hammer and... well.. you get the picture..
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by redmaxpa007



when you get mad and you strip the nut and you mess somthing up.. you take the sledge hammer and... well.. you get the picture..
I resort to drinking lots of beer when things don't go well.
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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Grab your wallet, as a Craftsman 10mm flare wrench is $14.

I bought one last week after stripping a bleeder screw.

Do yourself a favor and buy the 5-piece metric flare wrench set for $25 so you don't feel so screwed over.
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
Grab your wallet, as a Craftsman 10mm flare wrench is $14.

I bought one last week after stripping a bleeder screw.

Do yourself a favor and buy the 5-piece metric flare wrench set for $25 so you don't feel so screwed over.
That's a good idea, but it sucks that you rarely use flare nut wrenches. I got my 10mm flare nut wrench for about $11.
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Originally posted by xHypex

That's a good idea, but it sucks that you rarely use flare nut wrenches. I got my 10mm flare nut wrench for about $11.
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Ok. Thanks everyone!!

I'm hoping all goes well. Do I need to pre-spray any PB blaster on the old break line connections or will it not be too corroded? Thanks again.
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Ok. Thanks everyone!!

I'm hoping all goes well. Do I need to pre-spray any PB blaster on the old break line connections or will it not be too corroded? Thanks again.
Couldn't hurt.
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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when you get mad and you strip the nut and you mess somthing up.. you take the sledge hammer and... well.. you get the picture..
Will I have this much trouble doing the lines changeout? Have the majority of you run into problems during the installation? I'm also not real sure what time frame to expect this to take? How long did it take you guys (gals if applicable)? I have never done brake line replacement, just rotors, pads, etc.
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Will I have this much trouble doing the lines changeout? Have the majority of you run into problems during the installation? I'm also not real sure what time frame to expect this to take? How long did it take you guys (gals if applicable)? I have never done brake line replacement, just rotors, pads, etc.
I didn't have any problems. I would guess it would take about an hour to change the lines, and then you need to bleed the system. Figure 2 hours tops.
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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Thanks!

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I didn't have any problems. I would guess it would take about an hour to change the lines, and then you need to bleed the system. Figure 2 hours tops.
Thank you very much everyone. I appreciate all of your help. I wouldn't have been able to do any of these mods myself without the advice and experience of everyone here. Thanks.

Aaron

PS- I'll let you know how the install goes!
Old Apr 18, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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brake fluid question

I am currently changing the lines out right now. I will check back in a few minutes for a response. Here is my question:

I have new brake fluid that I am putting in when I flush the system. Should I let all of the old fluid drain out when changing the hoses so that ALL NEW fluid will be present? Thanks

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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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Re: brake fluid question

Originally posted by amb4081
I am currently changing the lines out right now. I will check back in a few minutes for a response. Here is my question:

I have new brake fluid that I am putting in when I flush the system. Should I let all of the old fluid drain out when changing the hoses so that ALL NEW fluid will be present? Thanks

Aaron
It won't all drain out if you let it sit (well, it may but it would take a really long time).

I just keep bleeding the system until the fluid that's coming out looks just as clean as the fluid you're putting in.
Old Apr 18, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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Re: Re: brake fluid question

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It won't all drain out if you let it sit (well, it may but it would take a really long time).

I just keep bleeding the system until the fluid that's coming out looks just as clean as the fluid you're putting in.
Thanks very much. I'll keep you updated.
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I resort to drinking lots of beer when things don't go well.
I resort to Tourett's Syndrome " You no good dirty, rotten m@#@#@focker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Then I go back to work
Old Apr 18, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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I resort to Tourett's Syndrome " You no good dirty, rotten m@#@#@focker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Then I go back to work
I find the heavy drinking reduces the need for such profanity, because, well, aftre a while you just won't give a ****.

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Is it a big p.i.t.a. to bleed the brakes w/out speedbleeders?
Is it a 2 man job?
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Originally posted by 95maxmadman
Is it a big p.i.t.a. to bleed the brakes w/out speedbleeders?
Is it a 2 man job?
Without speedbleeders or a vacuum system its a two man job. Its not difficult though.
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Without speedbleeders or a vacuum system its a two man job. Its not difficult though.
Ok. I have a problem . I got all of the lines on ok. Woo hoo!! My brother and I bled each line.

He would slowly depress the brake pedal. Once fully depressed, I opened the bleeder valve and saw the bubbles in the jar that had a little brake fluid in it. Just like the manual says. Anyway, I did this procedure for each wheel. For each wheel, this was done until only fluid was coming out of the bleeder valve.

However, My brakes are extremely spongy. If I only gradually depress the pedal, there is little or no resistance and the pedal hits the floor. If I slam on the brakes, there is a delay before the pedal feels stiff. Does this sound like I still have air in the lines? Please help!!

Aaron

PS- I did look under the car and there is no sign of leaking fluid anywhere.
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Pressure bleeder. One man operation. No worries about empting the master cylinder accidently(and starting all over again)

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....essure+bleeder
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Does this sound like I still have air in the lines? Please help!!
Yup. I usually have to repeat the bleading procedure at least twice, if not more.
Old Apr 18, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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Yup. I usually have to repeat the bleading procedure at least twice, if not more.
Thanks ejj and everyone else. I appreciate all the replies you've posted. I'll get the car out of the garage again tomorrow, jack it up, and go through the bleeding procedure a few more times. And I will post an update following that. Thanks.

Aaron

TO BE CONTINUED...
Old Apr 21, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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Finally finished....

Well, I finally finished the brake job Saturday afternoon. I re-bled all four brakes again. The front two were fine. However, the rear two brakes still had air in the lines. It must have been upstream a little bit and I didn't get it all out the first time I bled the brakes.

But now, the sponginess is gone. The pedal feels a little firmer and stops well. Not too bad of a mod. Normally I would not have done SS brake lines, but they came with the brake package I bought. Thanks for everyone's help!

Aaron
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