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Water Wetter: Is It Worth Using?

Old May 22, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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Water Wetter: Is It Worth Using?

Does anyone use this & think it's worth the cost?
Old May 22, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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Re: Water Wetter: Is It Worth Using?

Originally posted by StygianMax
Does anyone use this & think it's worth the cost?
Great stuff..... Not really needed in the Max but it can't hurt. I've used it in lots of previous cars with no problems....

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Old May 22, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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I thought water was already wet.
What is water wetter anyways?
Old May 22, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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From myoilshop.com

WaterWetter is a unique wetting agent for cooling systems which reduces coolant temperatures by as much as 30 degrees F. This liquid product can be used to provide rust and corrosion protection in plain water for racing engines, which provides much better heat transfer properties than glycol-based antifreeze. Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of etheleyne and propylene glycol systems. Designed for modern aluminum, cast iron, copper, brass, and bronze systems.
Old May 22, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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What % of the WaterWetter should you use in your coolant then?
Is it expen$ive?
Old May 22, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Zirafa
What % of the WaterWetter should you use in your coolant then?
Is it expen$ive?
It is expensive, but not that big of a deal. You really don't need it though unless you're doing something radical engine-wise with the Max.... But like I said, it can't hurt. Kinda like using synthetic oil.... That 30 degree drop they talk about is nothing I've ever seen in a normal motor. More like 10-20 on a good day...

Check it out:

http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm
Old May 22, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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I use it in my supercharged mustang, works well. but you probably don't need it in your max.
Old May 22, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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WaterWetter is a unique wetting agent for cooling systems which reduces coolant temperatures by as much as 30 degrees F. This liquid product can be used to provide rust and corrosion protection in plain water for racing engines, which provides much better heat transfer properties than glycol-based antifreeze. Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of etheleyne and propylene glycol systems. Designed for modern aluminum, cast iron, copper, brass, and bronze systems.
That sounds good. I think I wanna buy it now.
Old May 22, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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I'm in FL, so I thought this may keep the engine a little cooler, but if it's not worth it...
Old May 22, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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I put it in my Maxima and spouse's Quest. Don't notice anything different; but what the heck.

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Old May 22, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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I run 1-2 bottles per coolant system. Scantool said almost no effect on coolant temp. I'm gonna try a higher WW/H20 ratio vs coolant and see if that gets the temps down at all this summer. Then go back to the 50/50 winter protection this fall. Just one of 3 tricks I'm trying to get engine temps lower
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by BEJAY1
I run 1-2 bottles per coolant system. Scantool said almost no effect on coolant temp. I'm gonna try a higher WW/H20 ratio vs coolant and see if that gets the temps down at all this summer. Then go back to the 50/50 winter protection this fall. Just one of 3 tricks I'm trying to get engine temps lower
Were the measurements taken with the car sitting with no air flow over the radiator? Or was it while the car was driving? Just curious. Thanks.

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Old May 23, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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I use it just because I thought it couldn't hurt anything. I actually have to do a coolant flush and add another bottle pretty soon.

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Old May 23, 2003 | 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by vmok


Were the measurements taken with the car sitting with no air flow over the radiator? Or was it while the car was driving? Just curious. Thanks.

-V
Driving/light racing conditions. Pretty different tempature days though. More thourough testing ahead.
Old May 23, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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What's everyone using in terms of vol%'s of either Water:Glycol and Water:Glycol:WW. I'm in sunny California and would like to drop the temp?
Old May 23, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by jflowers1974
What's everyone using in terms of vol%'s of either Water:Glycol and Water:Glycol:WW. I'm in sunny California and would like to drop the temp?
In the Max I run 50/50 Toyota Red Coolant and distilled h20. No Water-Wetter. I've driven in horrendous heat in the desert with the AC on full blast without any overheating problems. But I'm not running many motor mods nor was I idling for extended periods.

In my old Dodge 1970's 383-Hemi however the WW would drop the coolant temp by about 15-20 degrees. Pretty good stuff. It dropped the temp about 10-15 degrees on a 1980's Olds Quad-4.

Modern cooling systems are pretty damn good for the most part. But there's no harm or much expense in trying out the WW.... give it a shot and see if it helps...

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Old May 23, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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DI Water

I don't know about using DI water. DI water's fairly acidic and has no buffering cap. to speak of. As the glycol thermally reacts and forms acid, the overall acidicidy of the coolant will increase. I suppose commercial antifreeze has buffers in it to counter the acids from the glycol but I don't know if it would be able to counter a one-two punch.
Old May 23, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by BEJAY1
I run 1-2 bottles per coolant system. Scantool said almost no effect on coolant temp. I'm gonna try a higher WW/H20 ratio vs coolant and see if that gets the temps down at all this summer. Then go back to the 50/50 winter protection this fall. Just one of 3 tricks I'm trying to get engine temps lower
Hi BEJAY1: How did you monitor the coolant temp? Do you have an ODB-II tool to accurately extract the temp data?
Old May 23, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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Hi BEJAY1: How did you monitor the coolant temp? Do you have an ODB-II tool to accurately extract the temp data?
Yes, I had borrowed a laptop and plug for a week. I didn't keep records at the time unfortunately. I'll borrow again and run similar coolant temp tests later this year when it's warmer. That along with A/F ratios, intake temps, and possibly wheel slipage if I can figure out how NPM did it with the ABS sensors.
Old May 23, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by BEJAY1

Yes, I had borrowed a laptop and plug for a week. I didn't keep records at the time unfortunately. I'll borrow again and run similar coolant temp tests later this year when it's warmer. That along with A/F ratios, intake temps, and possibly wheel slipage if I can figure out how NPM did it with the ABS sensors.
I was just curious about the accuracy of the temp readings. I've read the oem temp gauge has a huge +/- range when the needle is pointing straight between H and C. I think it was Jime who posted that since he was taking readings with his OBD-II device.

So it sounds like Water Wetter really isn't worth the money.
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