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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Squeaking...Wheel Bearing?

I just noticed a faint squeaking noise coming from my car...it seems to be the front...

It's intermittent and it comes and goes.
It seems to rear it's ugly head right after I make a slight turn.

I can't make the noise while making sharp circles in a parking lot.

The noise is so faint I have to have my head leaning slightly out the window to hear it clearly.

It increases with speed, the sound is most evident around 50mph...although I heard it very clearly while driving and turning on a upward incline...(10mph)

The sound is there regardless wether I'm braking or not... (Not sure about this one... but I'm sure it makes the noise when I'm NOT braking)

Help?? Wheel bearing?? brake pad indicator?
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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I'm checking the CV boots myself tomorrow morning then taking it to Nissan to have them check it out....

Is there any chance it's something cheap to fix??? I was just about to bring it in for the 60k mile service....
Would a pebble in the pad cause this? it seems to go away when I brake though
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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Check out for the links and bushings of the stabiliser bar in the front under the car. I had this annoying sound in the past and it comes from there.
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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Ok the sound intensifies when turning but only when turning right....never left....

Stabilizer bar...do I check for loose nuts and bolts?
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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check for bushing if they are worn or cracked and if you have some loose in the links.

But it can be your cv joints too.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:56 AM
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Would a automotive place be able to tell which of the 3 it is for sure?
Old Jun 16, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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Ok a little update on this...
If the wheel happens to be squeaking then if I VERY lightly press on the brake it gets worse and easier to hear...

The sound comes and goes...

Which leads me to believe that it's not the front stabilizer bar

The noise is hard to reproduce..since it comes and goes...

The noise is most evident at around 40mph not sure if that's because after 40mph the wind noise exceeds the squeak noise or what?

Someone wanna help me answer this question for sure?? as to wether it's the wheel bearing or not?
Old Jun 16, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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I would probably concur with WhiteMax96 on this. My mom was complaining about her car(not a Max, but she does keep wanting to borrow mine for a drive...heh) doing exactly the same thing. She did take it to her mechanic and they pulled the wheels apart as they thought it was the bearings too. Weird part was the bearings were fine. Nice mechanics too, they didn't charge her for this.

Another thing to check out is the Tie Rod ends, my other car(a Saab) recently had to have them replaced. It started making similiar noises, only when turning right, sqeaking kinda noise but I could also feel it vibrating in the steering wheel. Not to mention it shredded that front tire...
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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about the bushings or the CV joints?
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by Royal
about the bushings or the CV joints?
Oops, the links or bushings.

CV joints when they go tend to make a very loud 'Clunk Clunk Clunk' even more so when you turn and accelerate.
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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links and bushings....I looked the other day but I have no clue where the front stabilizer bar is...so...

I guess I'll let the mech look at it...
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 01:49 AM
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Oh ya and there is NO abnormal steering wheel/gas pedal vibration whatsoever...

if that helps any at all
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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a little update...
I called a automotive place and the owner picked up and he seemed very experienced with cars.

He did a over the phone diagnosis as best he could and from what I said he thinks it's the brake wear indicator just starting to touch the rotor...

I told him it's worse on turns and that it only happens at higher speeds...
He said that it would be worse on a turn just because your putting strain on the wheel and so the wear indicator would touch rub a little more than if I wasen't turning

He said that at lower speeds the rub of the indicator might not be fast enough to make the high pitched squeak noise...

I'm bringing it in to have it checked out Thursday morning...

I didn't get a chance to ask him why the noise comes and goes...although it is much worse now than it was when I first started hearing it...

Any feed back is welcome

Oh ya and he said that a blown wheel bearing wouldn't make a squeak noise...
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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how much does it usually cost to fix/replace wheel bearings?
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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300-400
that's my range that I got from estimates...
depends on what they charge for labor
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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300-400? damn
I got 2 new front tires and alignment and etc done today for 300. I have to spend another 300-400 for that? damn it. Anyways, how does blown wheel bearing sound like? does it go hum hum hum when you drive it and gets a lil bit louder when you do corners? That's my prob right now. Didn't do anything about it for like almost 2 years(stupid me) and now I can't stand it anymore. damn
Old Jun 17, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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mine makes a squeaking noise....so that leads me think it's not the bearing...I'm getting it checked on thurs
Old Jun 18, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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Carrera from what I have researched about wheel bearing failures, what you described is a wheel bearing failure...

Since you let it do that for 2 years, you might've damaged the wheel bearing Hub itself...

to replace the bearing + seal + realignment + labor its 300 or so...
the hub is 130 so it would be just a shade under 500 including tax to replace the hub and everything else

btw...you paid like 240 for 2 new tires?? dang...what are they??
Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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500 bucks??? DAMN~~~~

Where should I take my car to replace wheel bearing? Do you know any good place? Does bad wheel bearing causes jacked up alignment? If so, then, I need to do this quick~

About tires...I got Dunlop SP Sport A2 for like 98 dollars each. It costed more at NTB (about 113 or something) but I printed out the prices from Tirerack.com and I got discount. Alignment, labor, 2 tires, tax, and other little stuff costed me 300. Please tell me I didn't get ripped off
Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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if you got them online then you should be good to go, retail tire/wheel places rip you off...
alignment is like 60-70$
but ya you didn't get ripped, s'all good

I'm taking my shop in tomorrow morning to have it checked out...

I'm not sure if bearings can cause alignement problems...but I bet they can eventually since it causes your wheel to rotate a little weird...

Know a good place?? are you meihua?
Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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Meihua? What's that?
Old Jun 19, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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The bearings do not cause alignment problems. However, when you take the knuckle/hub off to press out the bearings, you have to get an alignment after everything is put back together to ensure proper alignment.
Old Jun 19, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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the guy I called said that if done properly you don't need an alignment? could this be possible? (after wheel bearing swap)
Old Jun 19, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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*update* It's not the brake pad indicator...
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 06:25 AM
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The bearings do not cause alignment problems. However, when you take the knuckle/hub off to press out the bearings, you have to get an alignment after everything is put back together to ensure proper alignment.
I think if the bearing is bad enough and you can shake the wheel (by pulling and pushing at 12:00 & 6:00 on the wheel), it will affect your alignment.

Royal, I also had a squeeking sound....sounded like rubber squeeking, not brake squeal (It also squeeked whether the brakes were applied or not). I jacked up the car, put in drive and spun the wheels, and i didn't hear it. My old brakes were fine but I replaced them anyway. Since it sounded like rubber, I lightly greased the outside of the CV boot. I'll let you know if the noise comes back after I take a long drive this weekend.
Old Jun 21, 2003 | 12:33 AM
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maybe dragging caliper?

I have a 98nd last year I noticed a squeeking noise. Discovered it was a frozen rear caliper. Noise went away when you put on the brakes. After replacing it the pads squeek as they brush the rotor lightly after using the brakes until runout pushes them off the surface. It does reappear and intensify in turns too. Very annoying, I think maybe my rotor overheated and warped slightly so that is causing the clearance problem but I'm not sure. Anybody else have any thoughts on this?

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Old Jun 21, 2003 | 03:58 AM
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omg..i was gonna post a thread about this tonight.i i have the EXACT same problem..weird sqeeking noise on slight rights.. u hear it more on inclineed right turns.. i turned off all my radio stuff and listened to it.it snot comming from the wheel well area.. it sounds closeer to beingunder where the headunit part of the dash is..i had a friend sit in the car and listened while i drove to verify this..its friggin annoying the heck out of me.

c918 i dont think it is a rear caliper for this particuar problem.. sound is distinctly coems from the front.. right turns only.

the link bushing theory sounds ok to me but then it should squeel turning both ways.. i mean a blown bushing would squeek wherther its being expanded or compressed(left turn/right turn)

i hope u get to the bottom of this royal..i dont think we are teh only ones witht his problem..im gonna change brake pads tomarrow.i dont think it will help but i can hear the brake pin pin on my car too.. i have both the pad pin noise and the right turn noise..they are not the same.very different..break nosie is long squeeels.. right turn noise are little squeeks. brake pin noise is on alot goign stright left right whatever.. pin noise is ONLY on slight and mild right turns... full rights turns and its gone...?? boggles the mind.
Old Jun 21, 2003 | 05:40 AM
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hmmm... does the squeak sound like metal rubbing against metal? Or rubber sliding against metal? Or rubber sliding against rubber?

Do this.. park the car, get a friend, open the hood, you stand outside and look at the strut tower bolt, have friend turn steering wheel in both directions, pay attention and check if the sucker moves.

My strut tower bolt is loose and is moving around but I don't have a deep socket set nor time to go to a mechanic nor the money to spend on a mechanic that will only tighten a nut. That's the only thing visibly wrong on that side of my car therefore I'm ruling that as the culprit of my squeak noise.

For future reference, most people refer to the break wear indicator as a screech

It kinda gets confusing after a while. squeak... screetch... scrape... creek... hehe
Old Jun 21, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by max002
My strut tower bolt is loose and is moving around but I don't have a deep socket set nor time to go to a mechanic nor the money to spend on a mechanic that will only tighten a nut.
A single deep socket is only about $3 and much cheaper than taking it somewhere unless they'll do it for free. You should be able to find a decent set at your friendly parts store for $10-$15. Oh, and you need to torque it to 50 ft-lbs so if you don't have a torque wrench....
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IM going With FROZEN CALIPER for 500 bob.

FROZEN CALIPER FROZEN CALIPER FROZEN CALIPER

My car did the exact same thing for like 2 weeks, until i figured it out. Pull YOUR ebrake a little and let go then drive. Youll see.

WHEEL BEARING: na, a mechanic messed up my wheel bearing in my accord one time it was $300@Midas to fix. It SOUNDED like i was Driving an Indy Car. Think of how fast that wheel spins_THINK. If its bad at all it's gonna be completely shot.
Old Jun 21, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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So..to find out if my car has bad wheel bearing...I can check it by shaking my wheel? If this is true then I gotta try it out.
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Yea but mine still squeeks after I replaced the frozen caliper every time I touch the brakes until runout beats enough clearance away from the rotor! Aint that a *****? Whats with these frozen calipers anyway????!!!!

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IM going With FROZEN CALIPER for 500 bob.

FROZEN CALIPER FROZEN CALIPER FROZEN CALIPER

My car did the exact same thing for like 2 weeks, until i figured it out. Pull YOUR ebrake a little and let go then drive. Youll see.

WHEEL BEARING: na, a mechanic messed up my wheel bearing in my accord one time it was $300@Midas to fix. It SOUNDED like i was Driving an Indy Car. Think of how fast that wheel spins_THINK. If its bad at all it's gonna be completely shot.
Old Jun 23, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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Question for all you guys...can you hear the noise from inside the car even with the windows up? or only when the windows are down??
Old Jun 23, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Well......my squeeking came back. It's only there after a long drive and only squeaks at speeds below 40mph. It sounds like rubber and I doubt it's the dust shield. It squeaks with the brakes applied. Now, I'm starting to think it's either the wheel bearing or the axle >(
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Try This. Roll all your windows UP.

Then one by one check by barley rolling down each window a little to see which side the squeek is coming from.

My brakes squeeked so so bad i thought i shot a wheel bearing too at how bad it squeeked. Have some-one roll next to you and listen to your car. Thats probably the best bet.
Old Jun 23, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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changed brake pads today.. got raybestos QS.. brakeing is ok but that screech is gone..but i still have the pesky slight to mid right turn squeeking. they are short clickign squeeks.. no idea whats wrong. im gonna check the front sawy bar bushings when i put in my Y pipe. ill see if anythign else down there is loose too.. its driving me nutts
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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wheel bearing goes hum hum, CV boot could be rubbing against something from being torn. If you like to use your e-brake when parking you r car over night this tends to frezze up the rear calipers and cuase a groan nopise when releaeing the brake pedal (notorious for maximas). A broken strut mount clicks and pops over small bumps over accelerating from a stop. Brake pad wear indicator sreecthes even when brakes are NOT applies, clicks while turning are your already blwon CV joints.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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300 is a robbery, You can get the wheel bearings from nissan for 50 bucks or so and then the labor should be no more than 130 bucks....

I have to get mine done so i know the price.
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*update* It's not the brake pad indicator...
I experienced an intermittent whining sound coming from the driver's side front wheel. It wasn't the usual whirring sound of a failed bearing but more like a turbine winding down. It was only prevelant up to 40 kph. I had it checked out and it turned out that it wasn't the wheel bearing but rather the seal. The tech said that the seal had dried out and was squeaking against the shaft. The tech said to change the seal would cost as much as changing the bearing since the knuckle had to be disassembled and to live with it until the bearing started to fail.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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Does any body know the correct procedure to remove the knuckle/hub assembly. I believe Motorvae's instructions is missing some steps. After I took off the two bolts connecting the knuckle to the strut, I still couldn't take off the halfshalf.



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