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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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Would dropping my max 2" affect acceleration at all??

The thought just crossed my mind. I'll be dropping my max with sprints and agx. Do you guys think it would affect my 1/4 mile time or my 60' even. Would it make for quicker 60' cause there's less body flex and the center of gravity is lower?? Just wondering

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i would assume so since ull be better planted but then again that may just cause more wheel spin
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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i would assume so since ull be better planted but then again that may just cause more wheel spin
true. has anyone actually experimented at the track before and after dropping the car? If anything, I think the mph would go up.
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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less.....drag maybe?
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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id think acceleration would be better. since the suspesion is stiffer, the front of the car doesnt lift up as much when under heavy acceleration, therefore better traction
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 11:01 PM
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I installed my Sprints and AGXs on saturday, and It seems quicker. I thought it was all in my head, but i'm rethinking it now.
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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just for informational purposes... i am about to lower my car, and i found out that it is detrimental that a four wheel alignment be done afterwards...
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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This is the concept that I do not understand? Why would you need a 4-wheel alingment after dropping the car, plus it is only two wheel drive so there is no point to realinging the rear wheels? Just a thought not too sure about it though....
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Improving your suspension does in fact directly relate to how fast your car is/or can perform. I will atest that dropping the maxima 2" your car will not only make it to the finish faster in a straight line, but also increse the speed the car can maintain at any given speed(s). You also have to consider the current real-time condition of your other suspension components. I changed out my OEM struts & OEM springs and instantly, my car did not seem to be the same...at all, think about it: you will be lowering your car's profile from the front. (how tall it is from the groound to the roof) That alone reduces drag, the only thing stopping your car from toasting say a lamborgini not true figure of speech . With all that said, lowering your car and upgrading to 8-point adjustable struts will do everything I just said if not more...but, that is another topic.
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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It will most definetly affect acceleration since you reduce your cars drag co-efficient.
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Mojo Risin
just for informational purposes... i am about to lower my car, and i found out that it is detrimental that a four wheel alignment be done afterwards...

No you do not need a 4 wheel alignment. You need a front wheel alignment and thats it. If you pay for a 4 wheel alignment ask the mechanic how is he going to do that if there is no adjustment bolts in the rear
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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The rear camber never changes no matter how low it's dropped. Now if the suspension was independant all the way around then a 4-wheel alignment would be necessary.
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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that is some excellent advice... i appreciate it
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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acceleration in a straight line no, acceleration in turns, yes
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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wow i paid for a 4 wheel alignment on my old car when i changed to 2k1 rims. Got beat, thanks. atleast i wont get beat again
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 05:15 AM
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i just talked to a friend last night with a 2k1 max, and he said that there are some adjustments in the rear because he just had a four wheel alignment done and they gave him a print out of how far everything was off... i don't know...
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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one quick thing, to the person who stated that the camber will never change in the rear. that is totally incorrect. camber is natural and is totally dynamic in both front and rear wheels. different cars will react differently due to the different suspension geometry's, my old jetty dropped >3.5" plus had a positive camber in the front, my honda dropped about 4" had a negative camber (very noticeable) until i corrected the front end. the maxima i have now, is about >3+" and no "noticeable" camber differences even tho i know they are there. so go figure
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by Show Maxima
one quick thing, to the person who stated that the camber will never change in the rear. that is totally incorrect. camber is natural and is totally dynamic in both front and rear wheels. different cars will react differently due to the different suspension geometry's, my old jetty dropped >3.5" plus had a positive camber in the front, my honda dropped about 4" had a negative camber (very noticeable) until i corrected the front end. the maxima i have now, is about >3+" and no "noticeable" camber differences even tho i know they are there. so go figure
Please enlighten us to how camber can change when the hubs are in a fixed postion on a solid axle?


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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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Re: Would dropping my max 2" affect acceleration at all??

Originally posted by TheMax95
The thought just crossed my mind. I'll be dropping my max with sprints and agx. Do you guys think it would affect my 1/4 mile time or my 60' even. Would it make for quicker 60' cause there's less body flex and the center of gravity is lower?? Just wondering

1/4 mile change? Maybe because you 60' will be better. Your ET will go down, but your trap speed will not go up because that is a factor of power to weight. ET measures quickness and MPH measures power. Quick and fast are two completely different things. Also, our cars are only able to get 87-100mph in the 1/4 mile and drag really doesn't become a factor. I've raced in 20mph headwinds and saw no noticeable change in ET/MPH.

Body flex doesn't change because to did nothing to increase chassis rigidity. You're thinking weight transfer.

I really don't see topspeed going up because the front end is only being lowered 2". The frontal area won't change, but the space below the car is a little less, but nothing terribly significant. Even if there was a change, I'd imagine it would be a change that couldn't be accurately measured on a consistent basis because the change would be so minor.


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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B


Please enlighten us to how camber can change when the hubs are in a fixed postion on a solid axle?


Dave

I would love to see a car that has a rear beam axle change the camber without something being bent. While we're on this topic, can we change the toe angle in the rear wheels too? J/k hehe
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