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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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PIAA Xtreme white - fog H3 bulbs

The never ending lightbulb problem...

Ive got PIAA Xtreme white for the fogs.
They give off a very nice white with blue tint light.
I just bought the Xtreme whites for the Headlights.
And they dont match the fogs at all
They have more of a yellow tint to them than the fogs.

Does anyone have the PIAA Xtreme whites for the fogs and
have found bulbs for the heads that match?

I want to stay with stock wattage bulbs.
No overwattage or HIDs.

Thanks
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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Try PIAA Super White 3800K H3's to match your headlights better.
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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Tell me about it! I have PIAA Hyperwhites all round and NONE of them match each other! If I can't match bulbs up using the same exact bulb for each then I figured matching all your bulbs would be impossible. Or close to it, but perhaps someone will enlighten us!
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd
Try PIAA Super White 3800K H3's to match your headlights better.
I'd like to have the very white with blue tint look.
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Chino
I have PIAA Hyperwhites
Do you mean PIAA Superwhites? Or PIAA Xtreme Whites?
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by CheshireCat76


Do you mean PIAA Superwhites? Or PIAA Xtreme Whites?
Hyperwhites? What was I thinking, I mean Xtreme Whites!
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Chino
Tell me about it! I have PIAA Hyperwhites all round and NONE of them match each other! If I can't match bulbs up using the same exact bulb for each then I figured matching all your bulbs would be impossible. Or close to it, but perhaps someone will enlighten us!
would it not match becuase of the different stock wattage for each bulb?
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by maxima2k2


would it not match becuase of the different stock wattage for each bulb?
I realize the stock wattage difference and the fact that the bulbs are a differnt size. 9004 and H3.

I would just like them to match.

9004 = 45/65
H3 = 55

Has anyone tried the Sylvania Silverstars 9004's with
the PIAA H3 fogs?

The Silverstars run 50/70.
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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I have the PIAA Xtreme White fog lights. The best headlights are not from PIAA but the FX Standard Wattage Xenon Blubs. They are 5000K and are super white. Pretty cheap too.
here is the link to their site:

http://www.globalpremier.com/fxstandardbulbs.html
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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silverstars match to optilux (hella) super blue H3's very well the h3's are available at advance auto for 5.88 a piece
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by kenju4u
I have the PIAA Xtreme White fog lights. The best headlights are not from PIAA but the FX Standard Wattage Xenon Blubs. They are 5000K and are super white. Pretty cheap too.
here is the link to their site:

http://www.globalpremier.com/fxstandardbulbs.html
Thanks for the link.
How do you like that combo?
Do they match up fairly well?
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 02:59 PM
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I dont have them. I am thinking about it too but they seem pretty good...but altast they are not crazy expensive. I think you can get both the fog lights and headlights in a combo for 40 bucks.
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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What I don't understand is that how can a bulb consume standard wattage and put out more light? On an HID system, there is a ballast that multiplies the input wattage to put out super-bright light. But on just a bulb, how is this possible? Is it because of the Xenon gas in the bulb? More so, how did they measure that 5000k out of a bulb that consumes the standard wattage? This sounds like a gimic. I know that PIAA claims that their bulbs put out more light by actually making the bulb's filament wider than standard halogen but that also produces more heat which burns out the bulb a lot faster.


Originally posted by kenju4u
I have the PIAA Xtreme White fog lights. The best headlights are not from PIAA but the FX Standard Wattage Xenon Blubs. They are 5000K and are super white. Pretty cheap too.
here is the link to their site:

http://www.globalpremier.com/fxstandardbulbs.html
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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BTW, I just saw this XD5 bulbs and they claim 5800k from standard wattage.
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Oakley02
silverstars match to optilux (hella) super blue H3's very well the h3's are available at advance auto for 5.88 a piece
thats what I have, except I got the xenon white H3's and they go pretty well. And rewired hyperwhite corner bulbs, but those arent the same as the others, so not a great match on those yet.
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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XD5

Originally posted by 2DaMax
BTW, I just saw this XD5 bulbs and they claim 5800k from standard wattage.
Omg! i thought the same thing...so i bought them....they are the most prettiest bulbs i have ever seen...and so bright..ill try to get pics tomm. i thought it was another one of those ebay shyt but im speechless
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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i need to find matching 1157's any ideas?
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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Re: XD5

How long have you had them? Are they actual Xenon brand because its hard to determine from the box with all the Japanese writing. I know it uses Xenon and Krypton gases. BTW, is Krypton even an earth substance, I thought it came from the planet Krypton? (just a stab at humor). Did you get yours from the same source and lastly, what H3 foglight and corner bulb did you match them with?


Originally posted by FazliS85
Omg! i thought the same thing...so i bought them....they are the most prettiest bulbs i have ever seen...and so bright..ill try to get pics tomm. i thought it was another one of those ebay shyt but im speechless
Old Aug 3, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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Ok...i dont think they are the actual xenon brand but he does claim them to be...i dont believe him...i really dont care if they have krypton or someother superman gas but they look better than any piaa out there...and yea i got them from him. I have stock H3 but im gonna try XD5 H3's also now...since i know the seller is dependable and claims a 45 day no hassle refund policy. The only problem I have with aftermarket lights are that they freakin blow within weeks...if these lasts me 6+...ill be a happy guy.. there is this guy on ebay that sells those hyperwhites 1157 for dirt cheap and they last and last...here's the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2425391869
Old Aug 3, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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I'm very skeptical about getting no-name brands eventhough they both, XD5 and FX, seem to be really good bulbs because of the lighting it provides. In the package, is there like some kind of information regarding its manufacturer and its guarantee about the bulbs against premature burn-out and harness damage? Not sure if I will take my chances on this, especially when the claims seem outrageous. I just don't want to feel foolish and stupid if anything bad happens to my car due to defects and I have no way of getting some kind of compensation from their manufacturers.


Originally posted by FazliS85
Ok...i dont think they are the actual xenon brand but he does claim them to be...i dont believe him...i really dont care if they have krypton or someother superman gas but they look better than any piaa out there...and yea i got them from him. I have stock H3 but im gonna try XD5 H3's also now...since i know the seller is dependable and claims a 45 day no hassle refund policy. The only problem I have with aftermarket lights are that they freakin blow within weeks...if these lasts me 6+...ill be a happy guy.. there is this guy on ebay that sells those hyperwhites 1157 for dirt cheap and they last and last...here's the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2425391869
Old Aug 3, 2003 | 10:22 AM
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The stated life on those bulbs is not good.
1200 days @ 10 mins per day??
I looking into the Koba brand bulbs on eBay.
Standard wattage @ 4800K
Repalcement warranty will be provided for 6 month due to defectives.
30 Days Money Back Guarantee.
Old Aug 3, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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Hey i took pics

I took pics tonight of mine XD3 (old) and the new XD5 5800K bulbs. Ive had the XD3 for about 7 months and (fingers crossed) they have not melted my harness or done any other damage. The bulbs dont seem to get as hot as my piaas. Maybe cause piaa actually uses thicker filiments. Anyway the guy on ebay doesnt reli know much so dont expect much from him!! IMO these bulbs are the closest look to HIDs...well u decide!!


Compare them XD3 vs. XD5
Old Aug 3, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by 2DaMax
I'm very skeptical about getting no-name brands eventhough they both, XD5 and FX, seem to be really good bulbs because of the lighting it provides. In the package, is there like some kind of information regarding its manufacturer and its guarantee about the bulbs against premature burn-out and harness damage? Not sure if I will take my chances on this, especially when the claims seem outrageous. I just don't want to feel foolish and stupid if anything bad happens to my car due to defects and I have no way of getting some kind of compensation from their manufacturers.


Nah no gurantee or if there is one its in Japanese As long as they last 6+ months im happy...
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:36 AM
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Thanks for the pics.
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 05:30 AM
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Thanks for the pic.
The XD5's look nice. hmmm
Old Aug 6, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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no prob...
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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I know the thread got a little side-tracked into headlight bulbs so I'm going to bring it back on topic. I was adjusting the aim of the foglights today and noticed something totally weird, the beam pattern is not the same!

I used my garage door to aim the fog beams at and the driver side fog has a more tighter pattern. The passenger side beam pattern is scattered. Has anyone noticed this on their foggers?
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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I think I'm going to order a pair of the 5800K H3's with my existing Piaa Xtreme Whites...which one should be ordered, the 'standard wattage' or 'high wattage'? Which one do you have FazliS85?
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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i have the higher wattage ones and they have not done anything to my harness...I have not tried the lower wattage ones so i dont know how they perform. I had the XD3 (highwattage) for 6 months and they are great...the XD5 are even better but i hope they last as long as the XD3.
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by 2DaMax
What I don't understand is that how can a bulb consume standard wattage and put out more light? On an HID system, there is a ballast that multiplies the input wattage to put out super-bright light. But on just a bulb, how is this possible? Is it because of the Xenon gas in the bulb? More so, how did they measure that 5000k out of a bulb that consumes the standard wattage? This sounds like a gimic. I know that PIAA claims that their bulbs put out more light by actually making the bulb's filament wider than standard halogen but that also produces more heat which burns out the bulb a lot faster.


Just to clear things up. The 5000K stands for 5000 Kelvin. Kelvin is a measurment of the temperature of the light that the bulb puts out. The temperature of light is ruffly said the color of the light. This has nothing to do with the brightness of the light. So, YES you can have a 1 watt 5000K bulb just like a 175 watt 5000K bulb. Just the 175 watt 5000K bulb will be brighter. Also, just for refrence... The lower the Kelvin of the bulb the more yellow or red that the color of the light is. The higher the Kelvin of the bulb the more blue or visable white the bulb is (in general). So for example if you look at a 3500K 100 watt bulb and compare it to a 5000K 100 watt bulb the 5000K will appear brighter just because it puts out the light in more of the visable spectrum (blue/white) compared with 3500K bulbs which would appear dimmer just because the light while technicaly it's the same brightness has more of its power in the less visable more hot spectrum (red/yellow). Ramble, ramble... hope this makes sense.
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Originally posted by keithmon

Just to clear things up. The 5000K stands for 5000 Kelvin. Kelvin is a measurment of the temperature of the light that the bulb puts out. The temperature of light is ruffly said the color of the light. This has nothing to do with the brightness of the light. So, YES you can have a 1 watt 5000K bulb just like a 175 watt 5000K bulb. Just the 175 watt 5000K bulb will be brighter. Also, just for refrence... The lower the Kelvin of the bulb the more yellow or red that the color of the light is. The higher the Kelvin of the bulb the more blue or visable white the bulb is (in general). So for example if you look at a 3500K 100 watt bulb and compare it to a 5000K 100 watt bulb the 5000K will appear brighter just because it puts out the light in more of the visable spectrum (blue/white) compared with 3500K bulbs which would appear dimmer just because the light while technicaly it's the same brightness has more of its power in the less visable more hot spectrum (red/yellow). Ramble, ramble... hope this makes sense.
Exactly!! but 5000K suxs in rain and fog and 3500K is much more visible!!
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Also those bulbs from globalpremier will melt your sockets unless you upgrade your hardness. I had those and I was forced to buy HIDs because I was never able to find a good bulb I like. Anything that uses 55W is not bright enough and anything over will eat your sockets like a Fat boy eating cake.
Old Aug 9, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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Also those bulbs from globalpremier will melt your sockets unless you upgrade your hardness.
hmmm thats not what FazliS85 said...
Old Aug 9, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by tzmanles

hmmm thats not what FazliS85 said...
hmm then I must have the cheapest stock sockets ever made

85W is not for the stock socket of the Max
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Originally posted by optimus310


hmm then I must have the cheapest stock sockets ever made

85W is not for the stock socket of the Max
Hey guys stop scaring me...i havent melt my harnesses yet!! but ive had them for 6 months now. The bulbs are 80/100 and I keep them on low beam all the time. 100 Watt is pushing it....so far they seem fine. I think the bulbs u have to worry about more are the 100/130. They will definetly smoke ur harnesses. I havent blown a single fuse on the bulbs so i figure they should be fine. A while back i put 85 watt H3s in my foggies and the fuse went out within seconds...so im using 55 watt for the foggies... just my 2 cent.
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