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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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Dual Exhaust

1st post...anyone have experience with the CustomMaxima Genuine Dual exhaust for 4G maxes? I'm really lookin at that because well...it's twin exhausts....and twin is....better....I doubt it would make much of a diff, given that it still has to go through a single Y pipe, single cat, etc....so it's not a truly dual system, but that's okay, the appearance is what counts....but anyone have any experience with it? If not, anyone have the stillen B-pipe? Is it loud enough to draw cop attention? Is the diff w/o resonator bigger than a catback w/resonator? Thanks for help
Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Go here, thebigsadler is selling his for cheap.
Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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Get a muffler shop to make you one for half the price, probabaly even less. As always custommaxima is charging an arm, a leg, and a left ******** for their products...
Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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ooooh don't wanna give up my ********....that would HURT...i was looking around at warpspeed's 3 inch tubing...only problem is w/o resonator, it will sound buzzy, i've heard modded S4s with 3 inch exhausts W/0 Res, sounds kinda buzzy...2.25 is a bit small, especially since i'm looking at creating a custom turbo system in the future using a turbonetics T28BB Turbo...

Too bad the dual setup is dibbed/sold...Anyone have experience with Warpspeed?
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by Defacto
ooooh don't wanna give up my ********....that would HURT...i was looking around at warpspeed's 3 inch tubing...only problem is w/o resonator, it will sound buzzy, i've heard modded S4s with 3 inch exhausts W/0 Res, sounds kinda buzzy...2.25 is a bit small, especially since i'm looking at creating a custom turbo system in the future using a turbonetics T28BB Turbo...

Too bad the dual setup is dibbed/sold...Anyone have experience with Warpspeed?
I've got their aluminized steel, mandrel bent y-pipe. It's very good quality, no fitment issues except I vaguely remember having to bend the cat hangar a bit. A good value. I've been thinking about their 3" exhaust, which is very affordable, but I'm hoping somebody will get it and report on it first. If I do get it I'm going with a Flowmaster series 50 to keep noise down.
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I've been thinking about their 3" exhaust, which is very affordable, but I'm hoping somebody will get it and report on it first. If I do get it I'm going with a Flowmaster series 50 to keep noise down.
How much is it? I've emailed them and asked, but never heard back.

Matt has it, and he's quite happy with it. I asked him about it a while ago, and he said his only complaint was the time it took to get it, but IIRC he was the first, so that was kind of to be expected.
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 07:29 AM
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How much is it? I've emailed them and asked, but never heard back.

Matt has it, and he's quite happy with it. I asked him about it a while ago, and he said his only complaint was the time it took to get it, but IIRC he was the first, so that was kind of to be expected.
So Matt's exhaust is from Warpspeed? For some reason I thought he had a custom job done. So I guess Warpspeed did his custom job and now they're marketing it. This is the email they sent me:

Steve:

We make the 3" systems for the 1995-1999 only, it typically consists of 3" Y pipe $250, optional 3" test pipe $30, optional 3" cat $110, 3" B pipe with 28-30" resonator $160, Dynomax $135 or Magnaflow 3" muffler $145. shipping about $40. The flanges are all three bolt. The B pipe has 2 joints which can be clamped or welded.

We have some in process now which will be available late next week.

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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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So Matt's exhaust is from Warpspeed? For some reason I thought he had a custom job done. So I guess Warpspeed did his custom job and now they're marketing it. This is the email they sent me:
Yes. I sent you a PM with his responses to my PM's. Dunno what he does/doesn't want posted.


Steve:

We make the 3" systems for the 1995-1999 only, it typically consists of 3" Y pipe $250, optional 3" test pipe $30, optional 3" cat $110, 3" B pipe with 28-30" resonator $160, Dynomax $135 or Magnaflow 3" muffler $145. shipping about $40. The flanges are all three bolt. The B pipe has 2 joints which can be clamped or welded.

We have some in process now which will be available late next week.

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Reasonable. I'm not thrilled with WSP service though. I've heard a lot of bad things, and had a really hard time getting a hold of them on numerous occasions. On the other hand, Dallas has been more than helpful when I've actcually gotten ahold of him.

on_alert (who built his own turbo kit) said that he can build me a custom 3" exhaust for essentially the cost of piping and the muffler. He built his himself, so he's got the b-pipe design down. We'd have to build our own y-pipe, but it shouldn't be too hard. He knows what he's doing. Right now I'm leaning towards doing that. My apexi WS is only a 2.25" catback, and I'm sure that's not helping my cause any.
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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Yes. I sent you a PM with his responses to my PM's. Dunno what he does/doesn't want posted.



Reasonable. I'm not thrilled with WSP service though. I've heard a lot of bad things, and had a really hard time getting a hold of them on numerous occasions. On the other hand, Dallas has been more than helpful when I've actcually gotten ahold of him.

on_alert (who built his own turbo kit) said that he can build me a custom 3" exhaust for essentially the cost of piping and the muffler. He built his himself, so he's got the b-pipe design down. We'd have to build our own y-pipe, but it shouldn't be too hard. He knows what he's doing. Right now I'm leaning towards doing that. My apexi WS is only a 2.25" catback, and I'm sure that's not helping my cause any.
Thanks for the pm. My experience with Warpspeed has only been positive, but then I have only bought one y-pipe from them. They got it to me in a reasonably short time.

I've been thinking about buying a small welder and practicing welding pipes together. Building my own exhaust would be fun, and would be good practice for when I'm ready to get turbified.
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I've been thinking about buying a small welder and practicing welding pipes together. Building my own exhaust would be fun, and would be good practice for when I'm ready to get turbified.
Good idea. It doesn't "seem" that complicated, but I'm sure its an art form. I'm thinking I'll have Newman (on_alert) teach me, and then consider doing it myself from there.

Any idea what a descent welder cost? Do they require lots-o-power (240V)?
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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Any idea what a descent welder cost? Do they require lots-o-power (240V)?
No, you can get by with a 110V unit because you don't need much power to weld pipe. In fact, it's difficult to weld pipe if you have a powerful unit because it's too easy to punch through the pipe. But you do want to have variable wire feed and inert gas capability for good weld quality, so that jacks the price up a bit. So we're talking in the $250-$350 range.

Here's one I've been looking at: http://store.weldingdepot.com/cgi/we...ot/WE6510.html


Edit: I just talked to a friend of mine with welding experience. He said inert gas is not needed if you use flux core wire, so that lowers the price to the low $200's.
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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Here's a cheaper one, for flux core wire: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44567

I don't think I can afford not to buy one!
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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I wish i knew how to weld...is it much different than soldering? If it isn't than maybe i'll get one, but warpspeed isn't good service eh? I guess i'll check it out myself. Their prices seem reasonable though. Thanks for the help
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Here's a cheaper one, for flux core wire: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44567

I don't think I can afford not to buy one!
Good find! I like the way you think!
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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I wish i knew how to weld...is it much different than soldering? If it isn't than maybe i'll get one, but warpspeed isn't good service eh? I guess i'll check it out myself. Their prices seem reasonable though. Thanks for the help
Welding is very different from soldering. In soldering all you are doing is melting the solder, which has a very low melting point. The melted solder sticks to the workpiece material with the help of flux. Flux is used to remove oxidation and surface contaminants to achieve a bond composed of mechanical locking as well as a Van Der Waals type attraction between the solder and the workpiece.

Welding is done at a much higher temperature and involves melting not only the filler material but also the workpiece material to achieve a bonding of two pieces at the atomic level.
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