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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 04:50 AM
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00 Celica GTS Vs 95 or 96 Maxima SE

I'm sick of my payments on my Celica and am in the process of selling it and I'm planning on getting a Maxima SE probably a 95 or 96 SE and was just wondering what kind of performance/handling hit I'm going to take. Only mod my Celica has on it is a RMM performance intake.

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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 04:57 AM
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Re: 00 Celica GTS Vs 95 or 96 Maxima SE

You will probably take a hit in the handling dept. The maxima is a lot bigger than a celica. But you will have a huge smile in the low end/mid-range power dept. =)

Originally posted by Magowin
I'm sick of my payments on my Celica and am in the process of selling it and I'm planning on getting a Maxima SE probably a 95 or 96 SE and was just wondering what kind of performance/handling hit I'm going to take. Only mod my Celica has on it is a RMM performance intake.

Thanks for any info.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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gts are slow i raced one and had it buy 2.5 cars lol you'll be happier with the maixma.
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Re: 00 Celica GTS Vs 95 or 96 Maxima SE

Originally posted by Magowin
I'm sick of my payments on my Celica and am in the process of selling it and I'm planning on getting a Maxima SE probably a 95 or 96 SE and was just wondering what kind of performance/handling hit I'm going to take. Only mod my Celica has on it is a RMM performance intake.

Thanks for any info.
My wife has a 2K3 celica and I have a 96 maxima. I like the comfort of the maxima, and the power is head-and-shoulders above the Celica, but the celica handles better. I have considered going to a coupe as opposed to the maxima, but the power has kept me in the max.

In a straight line, the max is faster, hands down, but in the twisties, the celica is better- even with the springs, struts, RSTB, FSB, rims and tires that my 96 maxima has.

Where do you live? What do you owe on the GT-S? Miles? Color? Tranny?
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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They are really uncomparable cars
Celica is a sport Compact
maxima is luxury/sports sedan
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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yea I hate toyota celly's Compare our sport compact Nissan "350 Z" to it lol
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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GTS are not slow...ive seen 14.6 stock.
no 4th gen has ever gone that fast.

handling can be improved with a Max with about $800 but it will not be a celica.

low end tq you are going to love. high end umph you are going to lose.
max is a good car.
cheap to mod IMO for the amount of response you see from each mod.

start with a y pipe, intake, and rear sway bar...all that is less than $500. and you will be in that mid 14sec range if you can drive.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by luckee2bhere
GTS are not slow...ive seen 14.6 stock.
no 4th gen has ever gone that fast.

handling can be improved with a Max with about $800 but it will not be a celica.

low end tq you are going to love. high end umph you are going to lose.
max is a good car.
cheap to mod IMO for the amount of response you see from each mod.

start with a y pipe, intake, and rear sway bar...all that is less than $500. and you will be in that mid 14sec range if you can drive.
do u mean that all three of those mods are less than $500 altogether or less than $500 each......and how much would good quality labor cost? im a noob when it comes to modding
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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the budget y is 180
the addco rsb is 110 (i believe)
intake, many choices.. just pick one, u will be happy with whatever u do.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by luckee2bhere
GTS are not slow...ive seen 14.6 stock.
no 4th gen has ever gone that fast.

Wrong...remember there are some very fast cars out there that you may never know about. BTW, that time has been bested by an auto.
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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My brother had a 94 Celica GT, he's got a injen intake and high flow muffler. His car is quick on the turns and stuff but its nothing like the maxima. My 97 has a lot more power and torque compared to it and is definately more pleasureable to drive in.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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Ditch the celica, get a max. Just make sure it's a 5spd. or you will be kicking yourself later.
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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Definately go with the Max. You will love the space and power as opposed to the celica. Celicas are not slow, to whoever said they were. You guys are smoking to much gonga or havent raced anyone who can drive. They are mid 15s all day long with a suitable driver. I know, ive raced 3 GT-S's, beat them all, but they have given me a run at high end. Those things just scream at high end...

What some of you fail to realize is that that car isnt meant for torque, obviously, or toyota wouldnt have stuck the 1.8 liter in it. What it lacks in the torque department, it more than makes up in the HP/weight department...



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As far as handling goes, you will never be able to match a Celica mod for mod. But with straight line acceleration and HP/dollar, it's no contest. I'm a member over at www.everythingcelica.com also and there's one member who has spent nearly $5000 in performance mods and can't get into the 13's. BTW he's N/A. Drop 5K on a max and you have one beast of a car.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 06:09 AM
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i have a buddy that has a 01 celica gts and it's not slow. it feels pretty quick and is very nimble. it is so small and tossable that it's freakin fun to drive. don't underestimate the celica, especially not the gts. it almost hangs with my 5 spd se from a standstill and i think that it will beat most autos that have just a few mods such as intake and exhaust.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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Re: Re: 00 Celica GTS Vs 95 or 96 Maxima SE

I live in NJ. I owe 12k on it which is gonna be kinda hard to get cause it's got 73k miles but there all highway. It's Black and fully loaded except side air bags and 16" rims. Oh yeah it's a 6 speed. I added a 12 disk changer and 10" bazooka tube in the hatch. I do have a couple used car dealers considering me trading it in for a used maxima.

As for the guy making the comment before of it being a slug I've done a 14.58 1/4 on a 1/4 tank of fuel with a Gtec pro when I first added the intake. That was when I first got it though and off a incredible launch never was able to launch like that again unfortunately. I can average high 14's to low 15's with the Gtec now just depends on how good the launch is.

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My wife has a 2K3 celica and I have a 96 maxima. I like the comfort of the maxima, and the power is head-and-shoulders above the Celica, but the celica handles better. I have considered going to a coupe as opposed to the maxima, but the power has kept me in the max.

In a straight line, the max is faster, hands down, but in the twisties, the celica is better- even with the springs, struts, RSTB, FSB, rims and tires that my 96 maxima has.

Where do you live? What do you owe on the GT-S? Miles? Color? Tranny?
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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$12K, wow...if you were closer to what I owe I would consider offering you a trade (w/ my mods included), but having to take on more payments is out of the question. I love my wife's celica, and after driving it I decided to do my suspension mods, but even w/ springs, struts, RSB, and FSTB it still handles like a barge compared to the celi.
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In a straight line there is no comparison. I've heard of a few celicas in the low 14s but they are few and far between. Maximas in the mid-low 14s are just those with a couple basic mods and a good driver. My sig is a joke, I'm one of those who ran 14.4s with my first $200 mod on my regular street tires. I'm a bunch faster now (13.6 on slicks, 13.9 on street tires, trapping over 100mph sometimes) with about $1500 in mods.

In handling the celica will always be more nimble and responsive however my Maxima performs very well on a road course, usually within 2 seconds of prepped ITRs and swapped civic hatches on the same sort of tires.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by tampamax



Wrong...remember there are some very fast cars out there that you may never know about. BTW, that time has been bested by an auto.
hahaha!!!!!!!!!

riiiiiiiiiight
someone prolly has hit 14.6 stock and we just dont know about it because there are alot of people racing maximas and they all dont come to maxima.org




its possible...but VERY unlikely IMO
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by markargente
the budget y is 180
the addco rsb is 110 (i believe)
intake, many choices.. just pick one, u will be happy with whatever u do.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by luckee2bhere


hahaha!!!!!!!!!

riiiiiiiiiight
someone prolly has hit 14.6 stock and we just dont know about it because there are alot of people racing maximas and they all dont come to maxima.org




its possible...but VERY unlikely IMO

I must have misread your post of a max never going 14.6. I didn't realize you meant in stock form. The way it was typed out threw me a bit.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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I was looking at buying a Celica when I got my Maxima. The Celica's handling was awesome compared to the Maxima. The Maxima's insurance rates won over the handling. The Maxima is a great sports sedan, just don't think that you will ever get the handling out of it like you had with your Celica. Maxima's are fast in a straight line and faster yet when modified.

Overall, I am very, very, very happy with my choice! I would have loved the Celica but, the Maxima was the Right decision.
Good Luck and Don't Rush Your Decision!
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Yeah of course the celica handles better but overall the power and the options that you can get with a maxima set it apart. Also i think it still could be possible to run a suspension setup on the maxima that could rival the celica's.
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Celicas cant run 14.6 stock, its freking impossible!!! He must have sprayed or something
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I must have misread your post of a max never going 14.6. I didn't realize you meant in stock form. The way it was typed out threw me a bit.
gotcha!
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Originally posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
Celicas cant run 14.6 stock, its freking impossible!!! He must have sprayed or something
i dont think Car and Driver uses spray...could be wrong tho.














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Re: Re: Re: 00 Celica GTS Vs 95 or 96 Maxima SE

Gtec pro is quite optomistic on their times. Get to track so see what you really run. I think you will lose a good 3-4 tenths of the Gtec times in ave.

Originally posted by Magowin

As for the guy making the comment before of it being a slug I've done a 14.58 1/4 on a 1/4 tank of fuel with a Gtec pro when I first added the intake. That was when I first got it though and off a incredible launch never was able to launch like that again unfortunately. I can average high 14's to low 15's with the Gtec now just depends on how good the launch is.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 00 Celica GTS Vs 95 or 96 Maxima SE

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Gtec pro is quite optomistic on their times. Get to track so see what you really run. I think you will lose a good 3-4 tenths of the Gtec times in ave.


i dont think its that much...but there is definitely a discrepancy between gtech and the track
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On everythingcelica.com the fastest stock time I've seen is in the low low 15's, just FYI. 14.6 is pushing it. How can they run that fast stock if someone with full bolt-ons as I stated earlier is running 9.2 in the 1/8 mile??
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Gtec pro is quite optomistic on their times. Get to track so see what you really run. I think you will lose a good 3-4 tenths of the Gtec times in ave.

Tru, but a gtech is consistent...even though its consistently off, at least it will show what certain mods helped you gain, whether or not the times are correct...


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When I got that time the car was just after break in at about 10k miles. If anyone here has driven a Celica they hate weight. That time was accomplished with almost no gas and just me in the car I only weigh 135 pounds by the way so me in the car is next to nothing weight wise. Also it was in the winter so cold air was fed into the intake. Times run in magazines are usually with someone weighing 180lbs at least and a full tank of gas. I also stated it was off a incredible launch too. If the clutches are feathered right to hit 6k rpm with minimal wheelspin these are the times you will see. Also I have only 15's on my car everyone else has 16's or higher on theres hence my lower acceleration times. Most recent lower time I've got on my car was a 14.73 on the Gtec.
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