Armelius

Yep, sort of like a conspirator has to be known by someone. I mean you know Mossoui or at least heard of him but he hasn't been convicted...yet. Those people you know as enemies are well known to be heros (or martyrs) elsewhere. Pretend to know something but don't try to prove to me you don't.

Drew96I30

This thread appears to have been whored out, but I wanted to comment on the locking thing.....
Oddly enough one night I managed to lock my keys in the ignition with the engine running. It was my 3am when I called my house and woke my parents up to ask them to drive an hour to where I was with a spare key. My dad was pretty mad when he got there and wasn't hearing it when I tried to explain to him that my car was designed to not allow you to lock the keys in it! Anyone else every manage to lock your keys in the car (without using a key and locking the door from the outside)?

SXN

not to mention closed minded, annoying and stupid

rguida

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yes i have locked the doors with the engine running myself..while picking up a female co-worker to come into work besides that, all i needed to get into the car was a planting stick and a piece of slate, that car door was open in 2 minutes.

fearthegecko

1. dave, if you happen to be still reading this thread, don't think for a second that i wasn't supportive of the first gulf war. I lost a good friend of my family's in desert shield/storm. (and armelius, before you go making the assumption that he was another brainwashed war-monger, he was a paramedic). The times and circumstances of that war were very different than what's happening today. I might've been able to stand behind this war if i knew what we were fighting for: To stop terrorism? to find Weapons of mass destruction? To end saddam's dictatorship? None of which have been accomplished. either way, what i feel about this war is my opinion, and you have yours. The only time i have not been supportive of US troops are the gung-ho bastards that sit there and say,"Arabs are nothing more than sand-*******, let's nuke the fockers". I'm against the government, not it's people.
2. Armelius:
A. A panel van is perfectly acceptable, due to the fact that with the two side view mirrors, you have a completely clear view of what's behind you. How do i know? I drove one for a year.
B. Most motor vehicle laws are there, as Dave said, for safety. My friend has 15% tint on his side windows in his truck, and 5% on the back window. At night, you can't see jack ****. He's used to it, but not everyone is able to see out of that. You have to realize that the gov't can't make exceptions for certain people and not for others.
C. A hero is a hero because of their actions, not because of the popular vote. Even if by some chance that did happen, BS artists are always exposed. Look at the firefighter that claimed to be in the WTC on 9/11 and claimed that he saved lives, risked his life, etc. He went out and wrote a book about his "experiences" and was busted. No one else in his company could back up his stories, none of the survivors could collaborate what happened. He finally admitted that he was running crowd control 10 blocks away.
And before you come back with your typical, "cops and firefighters aren't heroes, see they're all full of BS". The stories of people pulling extreme crap are not the norm for all officers/firefighters.
D. Sure the story of 1984 could be seen as happening today, but then so could the bible (but you wouldn't know considering you don't read "greek". Find an english version, it really is a great work of fiction ) , or (as many people believed on 9/11) nostradamus' prophecies, or a number of other books. The only thing is how far you'd have to stretch the truth of what's really going on to fit into the context of the book. Obviously, you have no problem stretching the truth to it's limits. Wrong. You want something that will fit real nicely into your theory of the world being just like "1984"? Try Political Correctness. Try having the government tell you that the language you speak and the terms you use are not "sensitive" enough to the people around you, so they're going to give you a new batch of terms to use. The only problem with it was that the american public didn't buy it. Us "dumb americans" (as i'm sure you've reffered to us as before) refused to buy into the idea, and rejected (rebelled, if you will) the thought of changing our entire language to reflect an idea that we did not agree to.
Wrong and Wrong. you're right, there are cameras everywhere.....in private instituitons (with the exception of New York's Washington Square Park, because of that facist rat-bastard Giuliani. Maybe that's one of the things you were talking about by rockefeller's drug laws?). They have not become a tool of the government. Neither will the tracking systems that monitor your every move, and where you spend your money. You're right in the fact that a lot of new technology can be used to do that (GPS, EZ-Pass, even Direct Deposit) but, Americans that want it have welcomed it with open arms, and others that choose not to be involved, and since we do live in a FREE nation, there will always be that choice. The other thing you have to remeber is that works of fiction like "1984" work so well because they are free of real world problems. The number one reason why "1984" will never take place: Money. Who the hell is going to pay for all that technology? Not the american citizens, and not the Gov't, which has no money as it is. You can always say that it could be forced on us, but look at the Clipper chip, Clinton's wonderful idea to "catch drug dealers". It was shot down because the american people saw through the Gov't's veil of BS and saw that even though the potential for good was there, the possiblity of misuse and abuse was much greater.

I'd like to know exactly what you're referring to, because the last time i checked, we were being told that we were gaining enemies. All you've heard on the news is how other nation's governments are pledging support, while their people demonstrate against the US's actions. Maybe you could be talking about how we started trade to Vietnam after years of not deaing with them, but that was years ago. So who are you talking about?

and maybe if you actually spoke to cops on a face to face level instead of believing that they're all out to get you, you'd understand that a lot of them are getting really angry at being treated as their municipality's bill collector. That's why, depending on the cop and the situation of course, you have a chance of getting out of a ticket easier.
True to a certain extent, but before i explain, realize that cops are made for the job. they go out knowing the dangers they face, and still go into it. I don't think all dept's are considered "heroes" but when someone rushes into a burning skyscraper to save someone with the possiblity of them not coming out alive, i think that qualifies them as a hero.

Armelius

Fear your not really worth responding to, but look where it says in the bible..."wo unto the lawyers for they have the key." The key is language, the supreme court rules or dictates the definitions that can be found in Blacks Law dictionary.

fearthegecko

I was worth the time before, but now i'm not? Oh please, tell me what it is that i did that made me not worth responding to, that way i can pass the secret on to the rest of the org, so no one has to hear your absurdity anymore.

The funny thing is that you failed to answer my question: Who are our friends that were once our enemies?

Armelius

Britain .........

fearthegecko

[sarcasm]hmmmmmm, you're right. I guess i'm the only one that noticed that Dubya and Tony Blair have become butt buddies since 9/11 [/sarcasm]


I'm done.

SXN

this is all horribly not to mention offensive and stupid...can we end this? jeez

Armelius

Thanks.

I don't mean to be offensive and certainly few would call me stupid, however, I am just tired of the constant bombardment of police activity from television shows ( there must of been a thousand of them, no wonder Friends, Frazier, Seinfeld and shows like Threes Company are so successful because the only other choice is a cop or lawyer show), school system (they are being introduced at an earlier an earlier age from the DARE program to the Explorer program), and especially after 9/11 where everyone is told to hug a cop nevermind the sobriety checkpoints for your safety (reminds me too much of slavery days). Now here. It's no wonder they do a thourough brain scan on people who want to be cops. They are either seeing what works (recruiting) and how messed up someone wants to be to become a living robot.

SXN

ok, i said end it...not keep talking about crap, u went right back into the media and corrupt police. everyone just chill, this forum was supposed to be about cars

Armelius

Yes, but someone posted about police cars and laws in peoples states that allow tint or whatever printed in Super (Stupid) Street.

bobjohnson

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Armelius <- We live in the US, Please tell Me In 10 words wtf your problem is? In not reading ur foreign a$$ post that are 3000 words long. Get real.

i eddited MY post bc im a sain person.

Armelius <- You have disrespected some VERY HelpFul and IMportant People on this board. Explain Ur-self NOW!

SXN

this goes both ways...chill, someone save us and close this

Armelius

How do you disrespect someone? Does it mean you take away their respect?

SXN

Lack of respect, esteem, or courteous regard... all the remarks about nationality and pride, not needed

fearthegecko

listen, i started this thread so people could find out about their cars and laws for their respective states so that we could SAVE bandwith, and look what happened. Screw this.

Armelius

And I am here to tell you those laws are bull. People don't fight them and say oh, that's the law I am screwed. People need to fight back otherwise all these old screwballs and cops are going to make ordinances and administrative laws against (what is supposedly) your property. I suspect these old screwballs are just envious that you have tint and they never did. Cops are worried about their safety not yours. Now they want to pull you over for not wearing a seatbelt. Are they your daddys or something? They want no tint so they can see that seatbelt and whatever contraband you have in their car.
The way I see it, your car is like your house (property) and most peoples homes I see have curtains...no what is the problem? Don't want theives looking in your car or gang bangers starting fights with you cause you look at them wrong.
Those laws are bogus, Super Street and most publications have some attorney on their editorial staff so they will word their publication to the uneducated masses.
I guess you think you live in a free country. Well turns out it's an attorneyocracy.

fearthegecko

Ok moron, understand something: there are people who don't care. There are people with more important things in their life than fighting all the injustices that are handed down by lawmakers. there are people who have to worry about paying bills and putting food on their tables, and to these people, a ticket is the last thing that they need. This post was meant for them.

Personally, I want the government to be involved in my life as little as possible. I also think that you underestimate the will of the american people. You're assuming that we will rollover and let the government control our lives, but i think you're forgetting that this nation was built on the very idea of not taking any **** from authority.

I'm glad that obsessive, single-minded, ****-retentive conspiracy theorists like yourself are looking out for my well being, as well as the well-being of every other person in this country (because, as you said, we're all brainwashed) but your opinion is not necessary, nor is it wanted. Stop posting. thank you.

SXN

agreed...ive been trying to stop it for days, someone just close this

adroitcaptor

So I am confused. Call me stupid but are you saying if I have curtains in my house I can't drive it down the freeway because it is like having tint? CRAP!!!! That just ruined my whole week. Thanks for the tipper bro! (What if I open the shades in the front of the house? Do you think I would still get a ticket?) Sorry if this is a repeat post. I couldn't find any threads that addressed this most serious dilemma.
I think this thread has taught us a lot. ..... um.... shoot. I think this thread was at least aimed at teaching us a lot.
God bless,
dan

maxNYC

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GOod thread

Armelius

I don't know. Why do they call them fines? Will they take away your birthday if you don't pay? Anyone check out article 1 section 10 of the US Constitution?
As far as I know it hasn't been amended or repealed.
Good day.

LastBoyScout

fearthegecko
You are my hero. I too am a fan of the almight downshifting break method aka slowing down without brakelights

I will say however, that on my last car, a 5-speed 89 nissan sentra, crusing past a cop at night, which i didnt see, while doing 80 in a 30 (dumb i know) i acted very quickly. I had a setup that me and my buddies used for when we played paintball tag, aka shooting at each others cars at night in town. I could hit a switch which turned off my license plate lights and activated a stobe light. Needless to say, i made it to a friends house since the cop was too blinded to follow me, or get my tag info.

Torgus

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this thread sucks. fearthegecko has very good points. and downshifting is much better then brakes =] peace and if this thread dissapeared i'd never notice.

dwapenyi

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I do like to use down-shifting to brake when approaching a curve, or in an emergency to maximize braking power. But in day-to-day, come to a straight stop at a traffic light, or other non-complicated braking maneuver, I just use the brakes. There's a pracitcal and economical reason for that:

Brakes are built to stop, clutches and gearboxes are not.
Brakes cost much less to replace than a clutch.

DW

fearthegecko

i'm not referring to downshifting so that the engine over revs and slows the car down. That's over-reving, not engine braking. The only time you ever do that is in a truck where either you have air-brakes, and you'll lose the brakes if you use them too much, or on a heavily-loaded truck with hydrualic brakes that will burn up if you use them. Those situations require you to do this, because otherwise you will lose control of the truck. Also, the trucks' transmissions are made to do this, and some trucks (especially those with air-brakes) have a separate control for engine-braking inside the cabin. That involves hitting a switch which closes an exhaust port on the engine and basically "chokes" the engine to slow it down. "True" engine braking, if you will.

Actually, if you downshift correctly, you use the brakes and the clutch together. when i talk about downshifting, i'm referring to the correct way of doing it, so you don't lug the engine. In a situation where you're in traffic, or appraoching a red light that goes green while you're slowing down for it, that way you're already in the correct gear, and can decelerate and re-accelerate smoothly.

dwapenyi

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Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that your were talking about engine braking in trucks. I must have mistaken the Maxima car with the Maxima truck.

Sarcasm aside, you're not really clear on this. This talk of engine braking in this thread never mentioned a truck, until now. It would be understandable to assume, like I did, that you were talking about using engine braking in your car.

DW

fearthegecko

You're right, i've been refferring to the various threads that have appeared on the org on when to downshift, should i downshift?, downshifting Vs. straight braking, etc......

I'm going to give you the best answer that my hungover, starved, and sleepless brain can give right now: Because that's how i was taught. I think it's easier/bettter to downshift than to have to come to a complete stop everytime. Also, i was taught that it's better for the transmission to go through the gears sequentially, rather than skip a gear or four.

LastBoyScout

exactly......aka down-shifting.....
Just like when you are upshifting, just down-shift at the correct speeds, and brake until the next interval, this way, you are always in the correct gear and ready to go.

This does prolong the life or the transmission and your brakes.
Speaking of brakes.....some idiot was on the blind side of a curve, and i had to swerve and brake to miss hitting him. Slid my maxima about a good 150 feet. Now i can see some tread wear on my tires in just one spot. Would this cause the car to slightly vibrate (steering wheel feels like its going "whump, whump, whump") when driving or is the slignment out of whack? Stupid people......

SXN

lol i just came back after being gone for 4 days....and this thread turned around very nicely. I have an auto trans and down shifting and holding gears with agressive driving is fun...but bad for the trans i TRY to avoid it, kinda

dwapenyi

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Yup, that would do it. I gather that your car doesn't have ABS? If it did, the flat spotting is less likely to happpen. Another small benefit of ABS.

DW

fearthegecko

Depending how rough the road surface was when you skidded, you could possibly have thrown yourcar out of alignment, but most likely burned a flat spot into your tire. I did that once while chasing some jerkoff that egged my car.