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Old 10-07-2003, 10:47 PM
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tranny cooler

after 1000 buck for rebuilt my tranny, im thinking whats the best way to take car of my tranny. Well me tranny(after 150,000 miles) made 0-60 in 6.5 seconds and 15.56 on 1/4mile time.
Im thinking to get the Hayden Tranny Coolers 404 form pepboys, im dont interested on VB upgrade cause my tranny makes a good times etc, but i dont know if just the tranny cooler will help my tranny to get more life(i dont want to spend another 1000 for rebuilt againt) as i told you guys, i dont want a fast shift or something like that form the VB mod, i just want to keep my tranny more cold and avoid heat on it.

Just let me know if you thing the tranny cooler will help.
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VB mod also makes your tranny last longer, and cooler certainly helps.
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id highly recommned a tranny cooler, heat will kick a trannies ***, they are also rather simple to install.

they also arent too expensive

good luck
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Old 10-08-2003, 06:13 AM
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what is the best recommended cooler for our cars?
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Old 10-08-2003, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxedOutOfCash
what is the best recommended cooler for our cars?
B&M are very nice. get one at www.jegs.com for $40 and change.
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what is the model number that will fit our cars? I have a 95.
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Here's my B&M cooler 130-70264 for 24000 pounds:



It's much more sturdy than the Hayden and it has the bypass for winter weather built in. I noticed that the the bypass takes a little while to open when the fluid is really cold and after 10 minutes of highway driving, it runs fine.
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Old 10-08-2003, 09:04 AM
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Here's my B&M cooler 130-70264 for 24000 pounds:



It's much more sturdy than the Hayden and it has the bypass for winter weather built in. I noticed that the the bypass takes a little while to open when the fluid is really cold and after 10 minutes of highway driving, it runs fine.
i think i got the one for 16000 lbs (the smallest one they have). i have it without the VB mod, butto be honest with you, i dont feel when the bypass is working.
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Originally Posted by dmBK
i think i got the one for 16000 lbs (the smallest one they have). i have it without the VB mod, butto be honest with you, i dont feel when the bypass is working.
I think people without the bypass have problems shifting in the winter, so they have to block the air passage to allow the tranny fluid to get hot. If you are able to shift when the fluid gets warm, it's working.
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Old 10-08-2003, 11:44 AM
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so guys i can use the tranny cooler without the VB mod...i dont have more money after rebuilt my tranny and i will go again to the 1/4 tracks so i want to avoid my tranny damage, i mean im interested on keep my tranny fine not in good shiftings etc.
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Originally Posted by indigomax
so guys i can use the tranny cooler without the VB mod....
yes id recommended it no matter what you have
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Originally Posted by indigomax
so guys i can use the tranny cooler without the VB mod...i dont have more money after rebuilt my tranny and i will go again to the 1/4 tracks so i want to avoid my tranny damage, i mean im interested on keep my tranny fine not in good shiftings etc.
I don't use it. Just get the cooler. My next time hitting the track, I'll be using the resistor mod anyway.
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Old 10-08-2003, 01:40 PM
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I am definatly going to add the B&M tranny cooler..... What is the cost for the 24000 lbs one??

Isnt the VB mod just for Auto's?? My friend says it isnt, but i would rather check first. (Not a tranny smart guy)
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Originally Posted by LastBoyScout
I am definatly going to add the B&M tranny cooler..... What is the cost for the 24000 lbs one??

Isnt the VB mod just for Auto's?? My friend says it isnt, but i would rather check first. (Not a tranny smart guy)
Yes, the VB is only for autos. Don't listen to your friend talk anymore.

My cooler cost $49 if I remember correctly.
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I don't use it. Just get the cooler. My next time hitting the track, I'll be using the resistor mod anyway.
Isn't that amazingly bad for the transmission? Even if done in moderation? I don't know the in's and out's of what the tranny does with the drop resistor but I can't imagine its not harmfull.

Plus, does it really help your 1/4 time?
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Old 10-08-2003, 02:24 PM
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I have a tranny temp gauge. With a cooler, it drops the temp by aleast 30F in the summer. It doesn't get too cold here in Virginia, so I really don't have problem with tranny not warm enough to shift into overdrive.
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Old 10-08-2003, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 1MAX2NV
I have a tranny temp gauge. With a cooler, it drops the temp by aleast 30F in the summer. It doesn't get too cold here in Virginia, so I really don't have problem with tranny not warm enough to shift into overdrive.
Do you have the bypass? I'm in Maryland so our temps are about the same. I'm just wondering if I needed that. Also, do you use the stock cooler as well?

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Originally Posted by MdMaxDrvr
Isn't that amazingly bad for the transmission? Even if done in moderation? I don't know the in's and out's of what the tranny does with the drop resistor but I can't imagine its not harmfull.

Plus, does it really help your 1/4 time?
If you don't know, don't speculate. I have used the drop resistor mod for 2 years and race in approx 12 events per season.

Actually I am afraid to race without it because the shifts are so slow without it when you run fast times you could cook your transmisison in a couple of runs.
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Originally Posted by Jime
If you don't know, don't speculate. I have used the drop resistor mod for 2 years and race in approx 12 events per season.

Actually I am afraid to race without it because the shifts are so slow without it when you run fast times you could cook your transmisison in a couple of runs.
but remember when you start playing around with performance inhancers, you run the risk. thats one expensive part to risk.

jime's tranny is a bad ***, yours might be a sissy(like mine, that ***** *****)
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Does the cooler for a 24000GVW, carry more quarts of tranny fluid than one for 16000GVW? I would think that it would, maybe you got too big of a cooler dmBK, It makes sense that the more fluid you have, the longer it will take to heat up. Anyone have the 16000GVW?
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Old 10-08-2003, 09:31 PM
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thats a good question evo....i will buy the tranny cooler form pepgirls, but guys do i have to add more tranny fluid???
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You will have to add in a little bit (not a whole quart) since a little bit of fluid will now be inside the new cooler which lowers the fluid level in the pan by just a LITTLE bit.
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but the smaller cooler will heat up faster, right? Solving the problem with the whole bypass setup.I would love to get a cooler if it will help my tranny last longer and shift faster, but not if it will cause any problems.
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Originally Posted by Jime
If you don't know, don't speculate. I have used the drop resistor mod for 2 years and race in approx 12 events per season.

Actually I am afraid to race without it because the shifts are so slow without it when you run fast times you could cook your transmisison in a couple of runs.
I'm just going by some of the things I read, thats why I asked. So maybe its not bad for the tranny, how about other parts? (everything between the tranny and your wheels)

So do you only use yours while racing?
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Old 10-09-2003, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MaximaEvolution
Does the cooler for a 24000GVW, carry more quarts of tranny fluid than one for 16000GVW? I would think that it would, maybe you got too big of a cooler dmBK, It makes sense that the more fluid you have, the longer it will take to heat up. Anyone have the 16000GVW?
i got 16000 i think. deezo has the big one. and yes, u will need to add more ATF. after u install the cooler, put at least the same amount of ATF as u had before, then start the car, let it run for a few minutes, check for leaks, then put the parking brake on, and run it through the gears a few times. then check your ATF level, and add more ATF accordingly.
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ok..i will get the cooler on sunday at pepgirls any suggestion for install??
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Originally Posted by MaximaEvolution
Does the cooler for a 24000GVW, carry more quarts of tranny fluid than one for 16000GVW? I would think that it would, maybe you got too big of a cooler dmBK, It makes sense that the more fluid you have, the longer it will take to heat up. Anyone have the 16000GVW?
This cooler is not bigger that much bigger than the 16000gvw coolers. I haven't had to add fluid either.

When installing it you shouldn't lose any fuild either.
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Old 10-09-2003, 01:32 PM
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VB mod also makes your tranny last longer, and cooler certainly helps.

Please submit proof.
 
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Originally Posted by silver99
Please submit proof.
Do a search on "Why heat kills automatic transmissions" and you'll have your proof. Both mods reduce heat. The VB mod makes the tranny shift without all of the slipping the TC does normally when laying on the power and the cooler cools the fluid.
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hey guys if yah wanna smoke ur auto tranny's gears get the VB mod, if you want to smoke the bands dont get the VB mod. If you want your tranny to last DONT RACE IT.

Ill quote this wonderful phase i once read on the .org. " if you plan to treat it like a race car, plan to maintain it like a race car"

I think that just about sums up all this "which is better for my auto tranny" nonsense.

ok now back to the original Q, tranny cooler is great, any trans cooler will work you would just need to ask around as to which size fits best up front ona maxima. This cooler will fit directly into the existing trans setup u just need to add the cooler into the loop with some extra hose.
 
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