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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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my max vs. 330i, A4, SER

I know that heres not a racing forum, but i just want to say a couple of comments. Well my with catback(apexi), y-pipe(wr), udp(ort), homemade intake, tranny cooler, this time from the stop the results are:
330i- for the begining side by side, then 2 cars behind me
A41.8t-for the begining 2 cars behind me.
SER- man that car are fast, but not enoght, start side by side, then 3 car behind me


im asking, how much hp do i have? at wheels??? How many seconds on 1/4 will you get with this setup.
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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I can't understand anything that you're saying.
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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I can't understand anything that you're saying.

lol, what do you mean 2 cars left? 2 car lengths ahead? Not trying to poke fun, but I'm completly lost as well.
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Yeah I just understood some, then I was lost. Can you re-type much clearer please?
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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jejeje...like everyone knows my grammar is poor. Sorry about that...and yes i mean 2 cars, bla bla bla..is the distance between my car and other car.

im curious about hp...at wheels and 1/4 time. I went to a drag like a month ago and my car did 15.99 seconds, with 1300 ft, like 73d, and 53 humidity. I dont know how this stuff can affect my car tme.

ups...forgot my car is automagic
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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you should be hitting mid or maybe semi low 15s. 15.9 is what stock autos can get
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Yeah I'm concerned about those numbers too, I can beat all those cars stock and by alot too, I'm auto

There has to be something wrong with you car, like a dying sensor or something, unless you like racing with 5 people in your car
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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SERs are not that fast stock. High 15's usually.
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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I think they are a little bit slower I blew one away really bad (like he was far) but he was auto though.
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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a friend came with me to the track in one and the best he ran was a 16.1, I drove it and got a 15.9.
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Hey ABK, I was wondering how you can beat a 330i with your stock 95? because you said you can beat all those cars stock. I think everyone here would like to know how that is possible with a 95 stock auto???????
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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Yeah I messed up on that one, it was on of my friend's bosses 325
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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yeah...im very unhappy about my 1/4 time. Someone on the track explain me "1300 ft over the sea level its very kill to your time". Does someone knows something about it. For example other car with very good drivers made:
audi 1.8t- 16.3
camaro v8- 14.6
SER(with mod)-15.85

and.....330i are very slow car, my car with all my setup beat him very easy. Of course 130-up its different thing.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by indigomax
I know that heres not a racing forum, but i just want to say a couple of comments. Well my with catback(apexi), y-pipe(wr), udp(ort), homemade intake, tranny cooler, this time from the stop the results are:
330i- for the begining side by side, then 2 cars behind me
A41.8t-for the begining 2 cars behind me.
SER- man that car are fast, but not enoght, start side by side, then 3 car behind me


im asking, how much hp do i have? at wheels??? How many seconds on 1/4 will you get with this setup.

Get to making those headlights...
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NickI30
Hey ABK, I was wondering how you can beat a 330i with your stock 95? because you said you can beat all those cars stock. I think everyone here would like to know how that is possible with a 95 stock auto???????


The 330 should easily beat an n/a 4th gen.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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The 330 should easily beat an n/a 4th gen.
I dont know what your talking about you know how many of those ive smoked, I actually hunt for them casue the guy is usually with his gf, I like to see there expressions, also my car is preety much stock.

Indigo Max, I think there is something wrong with your car.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
I dont know what your talking about you know how many of those ive smoked, I actually hunt for them casue the guy is usually with his gf, I like to see there expressions, also my car is preety much stock.

Indigo Max, I think there is something wrong with your car.
and u dont run nos when u race them? or is thst just ur sn? lol

and a 330 can do somewhere like mid to high 14's, thats fast, a stock max AUTO runs close to 16. where are you making up the 1+ second difference?
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in terms of hp at the wheels i'd say something like 170 - 175
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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he is talking about the high alt. and different things on the track. I think the 1300ft can make a difference in our tracks alt. Normal is 200-300ft anyway...maybe with that altutude that car indigomax can make a huge diff. time.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Beating a stock 330i with a stock 4gen max is not possible. On a dyno, the 330i puts 205whp and 215ftq. These figures far exceed the maxima. If you beat a 330i, that's due to the driver not the car.

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I think they are a little bit slower I blew one away really bad (like he was far) but he was auto though.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
I dont know what your talking about you know how many of those ive smoked, I actually hunt for them casue the guy is usually with his gf, I like to see there expressions, also my car is preety much stock.

Indigo Max, I think there is something wrong with your car.
Perhaps there really not racing you.

I own both cars, a 2001 330i and a 4th gen Maxima.
The 330i easily takes the Maxima.

190 hp ~vs~ 222 hp Do the math....
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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do math....ok +apexi catback ws + udp + intake + y pipe= more hp right? I think thats why my car go more fast than others.

my 0.02 cents.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by indigomax
do math....ok +apexi catback ws + udp + intake + y pipe= more hp right? I think thats why my car go more fast than others.

my 0.02 cents.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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you can easyly beat a a4 and ser if your a 5spd . A 330 will probbuly take you if its 5spd and a good driver but it would be a good race.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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you need to get that auto tranny outta there right now young man!

racing with an auto...
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Perhaps there really not racing you.

I own both cars, a 2001 330i and a 4th gen Maxima.
The 330i easily takes the Maxima.

190 hp ~vs~ 222 hp Do the math....
First of all, his car isn't stock. He has I/E/P so im pretty sure he'll run the same, if not faster than a stock 5-speed. And the "190 HP vs. 222 HP" argument is the type of ricer logic that makes my stomach churn. You're forgetting about a little factor called WEIGHT. The 330i weighs nearly 3300 lbs and the 5-speed runs around 6.4 according to what I've seen published. What if he raced an automatic?? Is it REALLY that hard to believe??
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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I don't know why are you guys so concerned about 330 (I never raced one), but I raced a 323 stick, and 325 auto, I killed them both really bad. In start they both were lagging a little bit behind me but in second gear they just both started disappereaning in my side mirrors. And those cars are supposable only like 10 hp less then our max.

BTW BMW claims that stick 330 does 14.8 so yeah I don't know
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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wait your an auto?? well then that eguals like a stock 5spd so it will be a challange to beat any of those cars, and you have almost no chance against the 330 cause my freind had one and he always beat me.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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Man I'm freaken stock auto, what are you going to tell me that I'm lying. Anybody who lives around here can roll up in Subway by Jewel and ask the guy who runs that place (with an auto 325) if he got beat by Maxima. And ask him how bad it was.

The guys with 323 stick is my dad's friend and he has been driving stick his whole life so don't try to say that he can't launch or shift well either
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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**** man if you guys don't believe me I will ask to race me again with his BMW and have my friend tape it. Damn stop flamming just because I'm an auto
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please race a 330 and tape it so we can all see the results...
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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Okay man, read I said it like a million times I race a 323 and 325.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Yo I'm auto I've raced 330's and they're not fast at all, he had me off the line for a half car and then by second gear I had 3 cars on him we shut down at like 90MPH, 3 series BMWs are not all that except for the M3 why waste money on a 3 series BMW when you can get a 3.2TL, TSX, or 5th Gen. Maxima which are all much faster, and look way better, every that has a 3 series BMW drive around like their big ****, speeding, cutting people off, and honestly around here Central NJ everyone has one because they can be had for like 21K.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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the 323 and 325 are nothing to compare to the 330. They put out 148(?) and 184hp respectiveley. An E36 325 stick runs mid 15s, the newer, heavier generation has even less hp and more weight, itll be lucky to break the 15s stock. A maxima shouldnt be having any problems with those. The 330i auto runs a 15.5 last time I checked, the manual being 14.8. Its not much from a lauch cause of its weight, but from a roll it should be pulling on any lightly modified AT 4th gen.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Keep in mind Indigo has I/E/H ECU etc, figure just the motor is 190 easily add another 30-40HP on top of all his mods, which boosts up around 230 plus the Maxima is lighter, so whoever said 190 vs. 222 theres a lot more to it.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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325s are *****..
2 of my friends raced each other.. they lined up at the light, one was a 325 and the other car was a stock 98 max with 18s. i was with a friend lined up behind those 2 cars in my 99 max. with mods and a system. the light turned green, the maxima with 18st took off and was beating the 325 by so much that i even had space catch up to those cars and cut-in in front of the bmw and pass both those cars. we were all auto, this goes to show 325 is freakin slow and that mods play a big difference since I started behind all of them and ended up beating them. Anyways im not even concerned with 325s anymore.. im enjoying killing 330s with my i35
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Originally Posted by HarrisH
why waste money on a 3 series BMW when you can get a 3.2TL, TSX, or 5th Gen. .
hehehe you just named all of the cars i have well i dont have a 5th gen but i have an i35... same thing
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Still.. Those gains will not beat a 330i.. Sorry Charlie...

Originally Posted by indigomax
do math....ok +apexi catback ws + udp + intake + y pipe= more hp right? I think thats why my car go more fast than others.

my 0.02 cents.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Morfeus17
Still.. Those gains will not beat a 330i.. Sorry Charlie...

Uhh yea it will buddy! A 330 is only 225 HP with a heavy body!



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