Curious 4th gen vs. 3rd gen ve
#1
Curious 4th gen vs. 3rd gen ve
Hey sorry if this has already been posted. I'm sure it has but I read till my eyes are numb trying to find it. And I don't have a bank acount to donate yet. So what would win stock vq or a stock ve. Both 5 spd and at the track of course.
#3
Originally Posted by Shift_my vq
So what would win stock vq or a stock ve. Both 5 spd and at the track of course.
Sam
#4
Originally Posted by 95MaxSE
I say that the 4th gen would win. I remember reading the C&D article in 94 when the 4th came out, and it said that the new car is better than the older one in every aspect. The only negative on the 4th gen is the NON-independent rear suspension, but that's only on paper. On the track, they (C&D) could not find any disavantage of this money-saving rear suspension. The tested vehicle was and SE 5 speed.
Sam
Sam
Shift_VQ it depends on many things, but I know stock for stock the VE will have the advantage the longer the race goes on.
#5
Originally Posted by dmontzmax
I think you are just guessing.
Shift_VQ it depends on many things, but I know stock for stock the VE will have the advantage the longer the race goes on.
Shift_VQ it depends on many things, but I know stock for stock the VE will have the advantage the longer the race goes on.
My vote will be for the vq stock for stock
#7
All depends. In general the VQ is probably a tick faster. Question to you. Can you drive decent?? Are the two cars functioning correctly? Don't assume both are working in peak condition because chances are ONE of them won't be.
Because even if you have a VQ, if you can't drive, you will lose to a good VE 5-sp driver.
So the slight differences aren't really revelant. Your driving skill is. Especially when you can't ask "well let's imagine I was driving both" because you can't
You can always search Yahoo or Google or whatever to get stock specifications
Because even if you have a VQ, if you can't drive, you will lose to a good VE 5-sp driver.
So the slight differences aren't really revelant. Your driving skill is. Especially when you can't ask "well let's imagine I was driving both" because you can't
You can always search Yahoo or Google or whatever to get stock specifications
Originally Posted by Shift_my vq
Hey sorry if this has already been posted. I'm sure it has but I read till my eyes are numb trying to find it. And I don't have a bank acount to donate yet. So what would win stock vq or a stock ve. Both 5 spd and at the track of course.
#8
Originally Posted by wariow
the ve stock weighs around 3200 lbs while the vq weighs at 3000 something pounds and the vq has more low end torque. My friend has a 90 max 5 spd and he says my car pulls harder during lower rpm's.
My vote will be for the vq stock for stock
My vote will be for the vq stock for stock
#9
wow is hard to say ! i have both a (90 auto)& (97-5spd)both of my
cars are in very good shape "no performence mods do" both stock
the pick up in my 97 it's great but my 90 keeps p with it very will
in the long run they are pretty even .just my opinion
cars are in very good shape "no performence mods do" both stock
the pick up in my 97 it's great but my 90 keeps p with it very will
in the long run they are pretty even .just my opinion
#10
Originally Posted by Shift_my vq
Hey sorry if this has already been posted. I'm sure it has but I read till my eyes are numb trying to find it. And I don't have a bank acount to donate yet. So what would win stock vq or a stock ve. Both 5 spd and at the track of course.
Just saw your location alb NM, hmm, I'm abit North of there, Los Alamos
And usually that's the rule of thumb, for every 100lbs, you gain ~.1 sec, but .1 is alot of distance when racing, a carlength or so . . .
#11
Battle of the Maxima 3.0's good readin'
The 4g is lighter and the VQ is torquier. But the VE with its variable valve timing and intake manifold has a slightly better top end and can give a VQ a good run on the highway or at higher speeds.
The 4g is lighter and the VQ is torquier. But the VE with its variable valve timing and intake manifold has a slightly better top end and can give a VQ a good run on the highway or at higher speeds.
#12
i owned both cars, i had the 92 se with the 190 hp,, and it was very good on the top end.. i also owned at the same time the 1996 se five speed .. i let my brother drive the 92 and he would pull on me slightly..
i was a little shocked but they say its because the 92 have a variable
timing which gives it a lot of pep.. but after i modded the 96 oh lord...
i also modded the 92 and it was devastating also but not like the 96.
i was a little shocked but they say its because the 92 have a variable
timing which gives it a lot of pep.. but after i modded the 96 oh lord...
i also modded the 92 and it was devastating also but not like the 96.
#13
Originally Posted by dmontzmax
I think you are just guessing.
Sam
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Yes manual to manual it will be close with the 4th gen getting out ahead and the 3rd gen VE coming back in the long run, I mean long run 85mph +. Now auto for auto the 4th gen auot would kill the VE auto,that thing was a dog off the line and just wasnt impressive. I have seen 89-94 GXE's pull on a few VE auto's to 65 mph or so, even had a tape of it a while back.
#15
Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Yes manual to manual it will be close with the 4th gen getting out ahead and the 3rd gen VE coming back in the long run, I mean long run 85mph +.
#19
The VE pulls better (stock vs stock) when the rpm gets into the higher ranges. Since 1st and 2nd is so short, the difference doesn't make itself apparent until sometime in 3rd gear. So at about 70, the VE will start gaining as both maximas wind out 3rd gear.
The VE30DE wasn't introduced until the 1992 model year. No 1991 year maximas had it.
Originally Posted by C MAX
Also The 190 Hp Started In 91 In The Five Speed Only... Then In 92-94 It Was Available In Auto And Five Speed
#20
Originally Posted by C MAX
Also The 190 Hp Started In 91 In The Five Speed Only... Then In 92-94 It Was Available In Auto And Five Speed
I don't think this information is accurate. The VE was not introduced until 92. From 89-91 the GXE and SE (auto and 5sp were the VG 160hp 182 ft/lbs)
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