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who said only hondas/acuras have RTB? **CUSTOM** Rear-Tie Bar completed! (pix+review)

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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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who said only hondas/acuras have RTB? **CUSTOM** Rear-Tie Bar completed! (pix+review)

okie first of all i lied about "stop modding", cuz seriously it's unstoppable.

anywayZ i am very happy to present my custom thought and work on this generic rear tie bar off a honda accord built on top of my Progress Rear-Sway Bar.

[installation]
jack up the car, semi-removed the 14mm bolts on the u-clamps, spray some WD40 on the bushing (it's been 1 year since i touch the RSB again, kinda dirty), and aligned it to the proper position of the RTB (rear-tie bar). secured both end of RTB and pop it up to the u-clamp, resecured the 14mm bolts. done.

*my rice stuff* since i never use the progress sticker, i just put them on the RTB.

[suspension result]
at first, i figured RSB aids major body roll on maxima, so if i stiffen up the RSB MORE it my give me better result. yes it did, not by a lot, but i can feel the suspension setup is a bit more firmer. (just like my RSTB).

[RTB #2]
i will install 1 more RTB on the other side of the u-clamp and complete the custom RTB setup

[picture]

generic honda accord rear-tie bar


custom RTB completed


far away view of custom RTB, possibly painting it black, just like my FSTB.


u-clamps and its 14mm bolt. very weird and custom thinking but it worked.

feedback and comments are all welcome. thank you for reading again!
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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How is that supposed to work if it's only clamped to one side of the RSB? If you made it so it's accross the RSB than maybe it would make more of a difference.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Big D
How is that supposed to work if it's only clamped to one side of the RSB? If you made it so it's accross the RSB than maybe it would make more of a difference.
the u-clamps are connected by the 14mm bolts INDEPENDENTLY. IMO having a tie-bar will connect the 14mm bolts on the u-clamps and stiffen up the security on the RSB, therefore improve handling.

just a theory, i could be wrong, just trying out new things. hey...it won't hurt
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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it looks alittle low hope u don't srape over anything, tell me if it does anything hehe
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by skiboarder72
it looks alittle low hope u don't srape over anything, tell me if it does anything hehe
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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my car is not lowered....yet
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by slammed95
Maybe you're confused on how the RSB works.
All that bar is doing is connecting the 2 clamps and adding unsprung weight. There isn't any side force applied to those U-bolts. That works on the Accord because it connects the mounting points of the IRS.
perhaps...

oh well, only $17
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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That looks completeley useless. RSB works by a torsion spring effect.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by happyricefob
my car is not lowered....yet
Lowering your car will not lower the rear axle any.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo
That looks completeley useless. RSB works by a torsion spring effect.

Right, the RSB works by reducing the twisting of the beam, not the bending.

Good try on the brace tough. See if you can use it to tie the front control arm mounts together, that would be worth something.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ImStockBaby
Lowering your car will not lower the rear axle any.
ok you have to explain ! cause i mean if the car is lowerd everything
would be lower to the floor right ??
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hotmax97
ok you have to explain ! cause i mean if the car is lowerd everything
would be lower to the floor right ??
The axle wouldnt be lower to the floor since its held in the same spot via the rims/tires? The chassis however would be lower to the floor because of the shortened springs.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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The Rear beam/tires stay at the same level... the sprung body is lowered...

I thought the rear lower bar is supposed to brace cars with IRS... which we don't have.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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that bar won't stop the RSB from flexing. the RSB reduces body roll, or is supposed to anyways, the rear beam really doesnt have much flex on it.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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The C-Clamps and bushings holding that bar onto the rear beam should be further apart to make the anti-sway bar work correctly.

The Tie bar is just added weight, it's doing nothing.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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looks cool.. a+ for effort..but its probably useless. the rsb by iself prevents all the body roll needed for the max.. your just adding unsprng weight and makeing your ride quality a lil bit worse.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Looks good, but I also agree that it wont do anything. Reminds me of my cousins Del Sol. Flashy though.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
The C-Clamps and bushings holding that bar onto the rear beam should be further apart to make the anti-sway bar work correctly.

The Tie bar is just added weight, it's doing nothing.


uhhh but the stillen bar doesnt even have c clamps on there. i dont believe the placing of the c clamps matters.... but anyways, thats just my opinion
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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originally here's what i had in mind:



black = rear axle
gray = rear sway bar
red = U-clamps
blue = rear tie bar

the original goal is to re-enforce the rear sway bar. but when nismo said stillen RSB doesn't even come with the middle 2 u-clamps, therefore kinda shut down my purpose. all i'm doing here is re-enforcing the two u-clamps, not the sway bar itself.

thx for all the feedback guys, i really appreciate it.

Originally Posted by mzmtg
See if you can use it to tie the front control arm mounts together, that would be worth something.
hrmm...maybe i'll give that a try over the weekend...
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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maybe i should call this mod: "custom rear RICE-bar"....














after all i'm a happy ricer A for effort, F for purpose.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by slammed95
Maybe you're confused on how the RSB works.
All that bar is doing is connecting the 2 clamps and adding unsprung weight. There isn't any side force applied to those U-bolts. That works on the Accord because it connects the mounting points of the IRS.
I'm not clear what he's trying to achieve but maybe it isn't working on the Max because the Max is running a beam and not an independant suspension in the rear.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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This is what car enthusiasts do when they drive behind your car:


If you want to be innovative and really stiffen the rear then find someone to weld an additional bar from the trailing arm to the beam to triangulate it (on both sides).
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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first of all

i thought you got red/clears?! or got rid of the altezzas at least!


other than that, it looks good. And i think it's obvious he wasn't expecting any significant gains from it.

looks good man
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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It serves no purpose at all. honda guys have it because they have independent suspension in the back. It serves no purpose except the bling bling.

BTW it doesn't matter if you car is lowered or not because that bar will stay in place no matter how low you car is.

Oh yeah how much was the RSB, anyways. I've heard some good stories along with a bad ones about the handeling with RSB.
Old Jan 30, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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Looks cool and was only $17...I see no harm done.
Old Jan 30, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nadir_s
first of all

i thought you got red/clears?! or got rid of the altezzas at least!


other than that, it looks good. And i think it's obvious he wasn't expecting any significant gains from it.

looks good man
sorrie to disappoint you nadir... my super rice $41 altezza still on my car
Old Jan 30, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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Hmmm, to get the look, how about chroming the RSB instead? Kidding.
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chrome rsb
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