I was curious to know how much hp improvement you can get by installing an after market intercooler if I'm not running a SC. Any benefits/drawbacks?


my first post, but I have been following the .org since 01 when bought my 98 SE.





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ever seen yellow before?

 

well, my cousin has a intercooler in his 3000gt and he gained 60 hp from his...i dunno how it will do on a max tho

 

aren't those turbo?

 

Only VR4 model has twin turbo

 

Yeah, I know it's a big improvement with turbo/SC, but I really want to know what it will do w/ just a CAI

 

My guess is not a whole lot, but then again I have never heard of someone putting an intercooler on a N/A car

 

I haven't either, but have a guy selling a medium size intercooler for around $300, which is less than the $3k+ for the SC

 

Why would you want an intercooler if your not boosted?

 

your engine will actually be more restricted, and will have more problems sucking the air. You will lose hp instead of gaining some. Just get a CAI or boost it

 

just want to know if it's worth the money for the hp gain. SC is just too much $ right now

 

Well intercooler without boost is not worth the money because you won't see any gains.
If you don't already have a y Pipe. I suggest you invest your money on that. You will be much more satisfied

 

just ordered a y pipe through a gd here, should get sometime soon. I also just installed the CAI, b pipe next? I heard somewhere between 4-7 hp gain on that, any ideas?

 

why the **** do ya want one if your not boosted. isnt that kind of the point?

 

well, yes it is, but a sc is not in my budget right now, and a intercooler is. however, after reading the posts, doesn't seem like a good idea. I was just curious if anyone had done this successfuly

 

Intercooler without forced induction would give you no gains. The point of an intercooler is to cool the air which has become super hot because it has been compressed. The air in your CAI isn't getting compressed so there would be no benefit.

 

thanks nealoc187, that is the answer I was looking for. I just love not wasting money

 

Aerospeed ( i think that's how you spell it) made CAI for certain cars that look like a front intercooler.. I hope someone knows what I am talking about.
It looks smaller than an intercooler but i mounts in the exact same spot.

 

i've seen it, pretty useless as well, trying to suck air in from so far from the tb. and when it rains gotta take that bish off

 

Yeah, ive seen that before. I dont think i would want to have all that direct air with debris and water being sucked straight into my motor though.

 

like optimus310 said, intercooler actually restricts airflow. its worth it with S/C or turbo because you get such significant gains in horsepower with forced induction that the air restriction is really minor and intercooler cools it all down allowing you to boost higher. without the extra hp from F/I an intercooler only slows you down

 

Well due to the fluid dynamices behind the intercooler, it is only uselful to intercool a "fluid" between compressions; between the compression of the turbo and the compression of the air generated by the pistons. Therefore an intercooler in a non forced induced system is useless.

 

I guess you can somehow install a bypass-valve to restrict the moisture from going to your engine. I know that AEM makes the bypass-valves but i am not sure if you can use it on non-AEM products.. I guess as long as the diameter matches, it can be installed to any intake.

 

Just get a tranny cooler and call it an intercooler.

I'm sure you'll be able to trick a couple of ricers.

 

As stated before a N/A car with a intercooler is as usless as **** on a bull.


Just so you know the Arospeed front mount intake has a clear plastic shield to protect the filter. Its really no different than a CAI....its just visable and uses a tad longer pluming.

 

As stated before a N/A car with a intercooler is as usless as **** on a bull.


Just so you know the Arospeed front mount intake has a clear plastic shield to protect the filter. Its really no different than a CAI....its just visable and uses a tad longer pluming.

 

wow. you must be kidding me with this thread?

 

I think if you get the blow off valve speaker that fake turbo company sells, and couple it with an intercooler, its like 10000hp.

Derek

 

to bad people have to ask questions on here instead of doing 5 minuts of research online. its like i'm lazy so i'll ask my uneducated question here. your lucky you didn't get flamed worse. try websites like

www.howstuffworks.com

for information on cars in general...
they do sell fake intercoolers thats probably your style man...

 

I don't want a ****ing intercooler, I was just interested in finding out if it would serve a purpose w/o a sc, but I'm glad to see you wasting your time w/ my uneducated question. Guess you really don't have anything better do then be johny came late and post your reply after enough knowlegde has been shared by people who actually know what they are talking about. That's cool though, I guess some people need to hang around the .org, and wait 'till enough knowledge has layed out to come in and act as the expert, now that is a much better style than a technical question. Maybe I'll try a popcharger for optimal gains, how did that work for you derekj212?

 

listen. don't be ****ed people flame you. they flame you because you asked an uneducated question and didn't take the time to figure it out on your own. oh an get an injen its what an intake should be: sound & looks. performance who cares?!?! every damn intake is going to do 5hp at the wheels. unless you doing a ram air or fi an intake is a damn intake an usefull for nothing but show and sound period.

oh an google is the quickest way to find an answer to something you don't know.

 

don't need an intake, already have a cai. not ****ed, I just figured I would get a better answer to my question here b/c I can hear from people who know what they are talking about. I know how an intercooler works, just wasn't aware that it was useless w/o an sc until I receive comments from people w/ more knowledge here, I thought that was one of the great things about the .org, isn't it?

 

 

damnthiss needs to read the FAQ and IMPORTANT threads before posting a question.

 

Torgus; no need for this, save your insults for the honda owners. I'm here b/c I have a MAX, and would never treat it as a rice cooker. Just looking on improving it the way max owners do: y-pipe (on the way), b pipe (next), flowmaster exhaust, short shifter, cattman cai, redline trans. fluid (5 spd), racing clutch, kyb gr2 struts, sprint springs, fstb, 18" ZEO 5 spoke gunmetal wheels (replacing w/ the HP racing lightning hypersilver dark from GD soon), AE headlights and side markers, smoked over red/white tail lights, black diamond cut bumper lights, 35% tint all around, cruse control/fog lights/side marker/clock rewire, and custom yellow front end lights. If you want to be the judge of that, let me know, I'll send you pics.


Anyways, already got the answer to my question back on the first page on this thread......LOCK IT, IT'S DONE!

 

i didn't think i insulted you just informed you. btw why did you list all the things you doing to your car? what it have to do with your sc question? oh and i don't bash on hondah owners i bash on people whom i think deserve to be insulted which you are not. anyways good luck modding and i suggest you read the FAQ and IMPORTANT threads before posting a question because it makes you look a little silly also howstuffworks.com can help you alot and before you stated you know what a intercooler did. if you understood what one did you would have not posted this thread. peace my maxima brother. don't hate playa participate.

 

nothing to do w/ question, just to state that I'm not after all the ricey stuff people seem to do to their cars. I have read the FAQ's, the important threads, just never ran into this info or the howstuffworks.com before. I know what an intercooler does, just wasn't sure if it worked the same way w/o the sc, but I've got the answer to that question now.

 

good luck modding, pm me pics of you max and shizzle peace!

 

Sorry to say (well not really sorry ) but if you really knew what an intercooler did you would know that it cools COMPRESSED air. How the air would be compressed without a S/C or T/C is beyond me...

 

Give the guy a break. We have told him that it is useless. Lets move on.