Projectors Update
#1
Projectors Update
Sorry guys, it's just not going to happen this year.
We've tried all our suppliers, all our bulb manufacturers, all our projector suppliers, and we can't bring the project into the $$$ figure that you guys want.
We're coming in with $500+ on everything we've looked at and that's selling 50 units minimum, we'd barely break even.
So, it's not from lack of trying that we are backing out of this.
We've tried all our suppliers, all our bulb manufacturers, all our projector suppliers, and we can't bring the project into the $$$ figure that you guys want.
We're coming in with $500+ on everything we've looked at and that's selling 50 units minimum, we'd barely break even.
So, it's not from lack of trying that we are backing out of this.
#3
After it took months to even get an answer from you I didn't expect much out of you guys. Personally I think it's a bail out because at first you said it couldn't be done.... IT HAS, now you say it's not financially enough of a profit for you? THANKS ALOT. Way to think of yourselves before the community.
#4
Stringztoo - we expected replies like yours.
I talked it over with my partner. Sorry, life isn't about "for the good of the community". It just isn't.
It may be for the good of two or three users that lent their strength of conviction to the project, but the overall community has no relevance.
I'd do this only to please Anish. And no one else, he deserves a lot of credit and to this day has not backed out.
But you know, food has to get put onto the table and for having spent close to 40 hours on this already, and not had $1 to show for it, it's time to look at other projects and revisit this when our expertise and supplier channels are more wide spread.
So, I suppose we gain no bonus points for ending this politely. We should have done what other companies do, string people along, take their deposits, etc.
Sorry, no. We don't do that.
I talked it over with my partner. Sorry, life isn't about "for the good of the community". It just isn't.
It may be for the good of two or three users that lent their strength of conviction to the project, but the overall community has no relevance.
I'd do this only to please Anish. And no one else, he deserves a lot of credit and to this day has not backed out.
But you know, food has to get put onto the table and for having spent close to 40 hours on this already, and not had $1 to show for it, it's time to look at other projects and revisit this when our expertise and supplier channels are more wide spread.
So, I suppose we gain no bonus points for ending this politely. We should have done what other companies do, string people along, take their deposits, etc.
Sorry, no. We don't do that.
#7
Hi Matt,
Thanks for the update and thanks to you and Umnitza for trying. When I approached you guys after seeing Nathan's 2k2 Angel eyes (in Toronto) I knew that if anyone could do this for us, it would be you. I also realize that you would rather not make a product than make a half-a$$ed one. I applaud you for taking the time and guys, if you really think about it, Umnitza did think about us in making the no-go decision. How many people want to lay down well over $500US just for the headlight housings?? Most of the replies to the GD thread were along the lines of "if the cost can be brought down I'm in" and with replies like that we would be nowhere near 50 people even if they did come out.
Matt, if there is any hope in the future, please keep us updated, as I am sure you are aware there is a lot of interest for this on this forum. You are making a unique product with top-notch quality that cannot be matched. That is my firm opinion and I am sticking to it!
Anish
Thanks for the update and thanks to you and Umnitza for trying. When I approached you guys after seeing Nathan's 2k2 Angel eyes (in Toronto) I knew that if anyone could do this for us, it would be you. I also realize that you would rather not make a product than make a half-a$$ed one. I applaud you for taking the time and guys, if you really think about it, Umnitza did think about us in making the no-go decision. How many people want to lay down well over $500US just for the headlight housings?? Most of the replies to the GD thread were along the lines of "if the cost can be brought down I'm in" and with replies like that we would be nowhere near 50 people even if they did come out.
Matt, if there is any hope in the future, please keep us updated, as I am sure you are aware there is a lot of interest for this on this forum. You are making a unique product with top-notch quality that cannot be matched. That is my firm opinion and I am sticking to it!
Anish
#9
Originally Posted by umnitza
But you know, food has to get put onto the table and for having spent close to 40 hours on this already, and not had $1 to show for it, it's time to look at other projects and revisit this when our expertise and supplier channels are more wide spread.
Originally Posted by umnitza
So, I suppose we gain no bonus points for ending this politely.
Originally Posted by umnitza
We should have done what other companies do, string people along, take their deposits, etc.
Sorry, no. We don't do that.
Sorry, no. We don't do that.
#10
Originally Posted by Stringztoo
After it took months to even get an answer from you I didn't expect much out of you guys. Personally I think it's a bail out because at first you said it couldn't be done.... IT HAS, now you say it's not financially enough of a profit for you? THANKS ALOT. Way to think of yourselves before the community.
That's the dumbest statement I've heard on Maxima.org
How the hell do you think buisness's are run? They operate on earnings, profit, income. Why should someone manufactor projectors and lose money on the deal. Go sit in the corner.
#11
Originally Posted by umnitza
Sorry guys, it's just not going to happen this year.
We've tried all our suppliers, all our bulb manufacturers, all our projector suppliers, and we can't bring the project into the $$$ figure that you guys want.
We're coming in with $500+ on everything we've looked at and that's selling 50 units minimum, we'd barely break even.
So, it's not from lack of trying that we are backing out of this.
We've tried all our suppliers, all our bulb manufacturers, all our projector suppliers, and we can't bring the project into the $$$ figure that you guys want.
We're coming in with $500+ on everything we've looked at and that's selling 50 units minimum, we'd barely break even.
So, it's not from lack of trying that we are backing out of this.
#15
laws of supply and demand.
There is a humungus supply of Hondas and they are interchangeable in parts in many cases from year to year. That means 400K Hondas per year have the same headlights.
So, for a manufacturer to enter that market, they can just make something in HUGE numbers and make it cheap.
Key word there is CHEAP. We don't use low quality projectors - ours are German Hella H9s. We don't use cheap quality halos, ours are Assembled in the USA and are 3X as bright as anything made by Honda manufacturers. Ours have billet aluminum, not plastic. So, that's why the budget went overboard.
We are a niche manufacturer of high quality products. We don't make cheap stuff.
There is a humungus supply of Hondas and they are interchangeable in parts in many cases from year to year. That means 400K Hondas per year have the same headlights.
So, for a manufacturer to enter that market, they can just make something in HUGE numbers and make it cheap.
Key word there is CHEAP. We don't use low quality projectors - ours are German Hella H9s. We don't use cheap quality halos, ours are Assembled in the USA and are 3X as bright as anything made by Honda manufacturers. Ours have billet aluminum, not plastic. So, that's why the budget went overboard.
We are a niche manufacturer of high quality products. We don't make cheap stuff.
#17
u know.. wht it comes to is that they tried.. and tried and tried.. people may show enough interest but the parts + labor doesnt equal a good enough price that people would buy.. just say thanks for the attmept and let it go.. if u think u can make ur own then do it. dont go and say that people ahve and y cant u.
my $.02!!
my $.02!!
#18
Originally Posted by driver824
u know.. wht it comes to is that they tried.. and tried and tried.. people may show enough interest but the parts + labor doesnt equal a good enough price that people would buy.. just say thanks for the attmept and let it go.. if u think u can make ur own then do it. dont go and say that people ahve and y cant u.
my $.02!!
my $.02!!
#19
eh? whats everyone talking about... o.O I dont know much bout what kind of lights you guys talking about or anything, so can anyone at least show a picture of what they wanted to make?
P.S.: BTW, why not sell that idea to some bigger company outthere and see if they can put it in mass production? O.o
P.S.: BTW, why not sell that idea to some bigger company outthere and see if they can put it in mass production? O.o
#22
Originally Posted by nick
hmmm , how come honda boys can buy very nice set of angel eyes projectors for around $200 and we can't even get set for $500 ?
Nick.
Nick.
Thanks for trying guys, I'm actually suprised you guys stuck with trying to make this project come through for so long.
#23
Originally Posted by cooler2000
hey umnitza ti chuvak sluxai, a po nastoyashemu ti ne proboval sdelat ix kak to deshevle ? podumai 4th gen maxim v amerike gde to 3 milliona, okromnii potential chtob sdelat bablo.
ne pizdi nam chto oni $500
Umnii
ne pizdi nam chto oni $500
Umnii
#25
no, I understood just fine, except for a few words here and there, I just thought you were being a bit cowardly writing it in russglish.
Care to let everyone know your opinion so they understand you?
Care to let everyone know your opinion so they understand you?
#27
Originally Posted by ilyaat
eh...i dont even think thats russian...something slovac..ukranian maybe?
tak kak rasskih, eto ne russkih o.O
tak kak rasskih, eto ne russkih o.O
Che tak malo nas russkix?
#31
Originally Posted by ilyaat
eh? whats everyone talking about... o.O I dont know much bout what kind of lights you guys talking about or anything, so can anyone at least show a picture of what they wanted to make?
#32
Originally Posted by cooler2000
a kak naschet togo chto eto iz Brooklyna i tak u nas govoryat po russki
Che tak malo nas russkix?
Che tak malo nas russkix?
da mnogo tut nas bratkov na maximah v brookline
zdelal bi nam HID's v projectorah shtob legavie ne pristovali i babki bi horoshie poluchil toje
zato spasibo za popitku
teper' samomu nado budet etoi huinei zanimatsa.
#34
Originally Posted by cooler2000
hey umnitza ti chuvak sluxai, a po nastoyashemu ti ne proboval sdelat ix kak to deshevle ? podumai 4th gen maxim v amerike gde to 3 milliona, okromnii potential chtob sdelat bablo.
ne pizdi nam chto oni $500
Umnii
ne pizdi nam chto oni $500
Umnii
out of respect for the rest, either speak english here, or STFU! you can "pizdet' po russki" in international forum or PM.
#36
Thanks for trying!
There are indeed a few of us out there who will pay $700+ for a quality set of projectors, but we've long realized that there just aren't enough of us to justify this kind of project all by ourselves. Your effort is appreciated.
There are indeed a few of us out there who will pay $700+ for a quality set of projectors, but we've long realized that there just aren't enough of us to justify this kind of project all by ourselves. Your effort is appreciated.
#37
Originally Posted by vipervadim
da mnogo tut nas bratkov na maximah v brookline
zdelal bi nam HID's v projectorah shtob legavie ne pristovali i babki bi horoshie poluchil toje
zato spasibo za popitku
teper' samomu nado budet etoi huinei zanimatsa.
zdelal bi nam HID's v projectorah shtob legavie ne pristovali i babki bi horoshie poluchil toje
zato spasibo za popitku
teper' samomu nado budet etoi huinei zanimatsa.