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Old 03-15-2004, 11:17 AM
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You're right BOSS, our cars are old. And with time things will wear out. Our cars are very dependable too. That's why i bought mine.

Plus to one day put a supercharger on it.
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well iansw, you probably missed my post about a Supra in this thread

That car owns all
Nah - I saw that - I was just re-iterating it, because it's so true.
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i have a new car, and people always ask where's the max? now the max is a 97 but nobody cares, they just like it. it will always be my little baby..
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You need to upgrade your spelling and vocabulary skills. Dang!
Also, use some punctuation when you type, it is amazing how much easier it...One more thing, please try to make some sense when you post.
Having a bad day??? Wow.
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5 years is not old for a car. 10 years is not old for a car. A car is not designed to structurally "give out" after that long, or a at all for that matter. Of course moving parts are going to wear down and need replaced - that's the nature of the beast, but well taken care of, a car could last, ooh, forever.

Don't sit here and tell me your 1999 maxima is old.
i beg to differ. Some american cars built are meant to die after a certain age, thats why honda, mercedes, nissan, toyota and all the other foriegn car companies are loved so much for their reliability and ford, chevy, dodge, etc are disliked.
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Originally Posted by Brudaddy
You need to upgrade your spelling and vocabulary skills. Dang!
Also, use some punctuation when you type, it is amazing how much easier it makes for all the rest of the world to read.
His statements were easy for me to follow Bru. You sure you got your glasses on?
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4th Gens got some awesome looks IMHO. Destined to be a classic.

Who would say this car doesnt hold looks?

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Originally Posted by Bmr4life
i beg to differ. Some american cars built are meant to die after a certain age, thats why honda, mercedes, nissan, toyota and all the other foriegn car companies are loved so much for their reliability and ford, chevy, dodge, etc are disliked.
Please stop talking out of your a$$. They are built to die after a certain age? haha. If that is so, then all foreign cars are built to die after a certain age as well. No car is immortal... pleeeease... look at your fellow orgers posting about problems with their FOREIGN maximas... My 96 Grand Prix is in tip top shape... no problems... People have problem because they do not know how to TAKE CARE and MAINTAIN their cars... Of course if you beat the **** out of it, any car will "die after a certain age"... sheesh. please stop disguising your faux opinions as facts.
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Who would say this car doesnt hold looks?

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I would just to be a pain in the butt.
 
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Old age only gives it more character. Id rather have this car than alot of newer cars on the road. Its older age gives it more of a personality. Not to mention I only have 50k miles on my '99, it has ALOT more living to do. Age has nothing to do with it, it still outperforms alot of cars on the road in looks, power, etc. I like knowing my car is hard to find, that makes it stand out more.
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Please stop talking out of your a$$. They are built to die after a certain age? haha. If that is so, then all foreign cars are built to die after a certain age as well. No car is immortal... pleeeease... look at your fellow orgers posting about problems with their FOREIGN maximas... My 96 Grand Prix is in tip top shape... no problems... People have problem because they do not know how to TAKE CARE and MAINTAIN their cars... Of course if you beat the **** out of it, any car will "die after a certain age"... sheesh. please stop disguising your faux opinions as facts.
i'm not talking out of my a$$. Its a known fact that foreign cars are built better. Its been said time and time again. I know any and all cars will die at a certain age, but if you put an american car through the stuff as a foreign car, the foreign car will almost always come out on top. whether it be driven by a person that beats the crap out of it or it be one that loves it and takes great care of it. most american cars are built like crap. Why do you think that honda civic and accord retain their value so well while neons and calivers lose theirs.
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sure, our cars are "old", but mines 8-9 years young. Im a senior in high school, and when i rolled up to schoo in it the after i first got it, all the girls were like, wow, what a nice car, bla bla bla, what year is it. When i told them it was a 96, they didnt believe me. My car could pass for a 99 easily, especially with the excellent condition I keep it in. Had the Maximas not changed model designs, it would pass for newer, especially with girls, since they just drive a thing with 4 wheels and a radio.
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You are talking out of your rear...you said that some of the American cars are made to die at a certain age. ha ha ha. YOu mean, they actually spend money for REsearch and Development so that it will die and they mean for it to? ha ha ha. Good one. By the way, I have my glasses on.

Sorry if I was too harsh about your spelling earlier, Guinader. I didn't know you were foreign.

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who cares if its old or not i love it more than my gurl its da only bich i can trust, and doesnt let me down
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Old cars

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who cares if its old or not i love it more than my gurl its da only bich i can trust, and doesnt let me down
^^^^DAMN STRAIGHT^^^^

Jjust drive your car and take care of it, my car is 6 years old, when I pull up to stop lights, people look at my car and I get a lot of compliments.....4th GENS WILL ALWAYS BE SEXXXY!!!
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Originally Posted by superblack98se
^^^^DAMN STRAIGHT^^^^

Jjust drive your car and take care of it, my car is 6 years old, when I pull up to stop lights, people look at my car and I get a lot of compliments.....4th GENS WILL ALWAYS BE SEXXXY!!!
unless its NOT lowered...
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^lol funny
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lexus=toyota but with a bigger sticker just to clear the air. and my cuz has a 96 i30 with almost 170,000 and still runs great.
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i say that EXACT SAME THING 2 da max. people be like, who you likin (talkin about girls) and i say my maxima. And that its the only girl who wont cheat on me, break my heart, and if i treat her good, she treats me just as good if not better. Girls round here, you treat em nice, they just **** on you.
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Please stop talking out of your a$$. They are built to die after a certain age? haha. If that is so, then all foreign cars are built to die after a certain age as well. No car is immortal... pleeeease... look at your fellow orgers posting about problems with their FOREIGN maximas... My 96 Grand Prix is in tip top shape... no problems... People have problem because they do not know how to TAKE CARE and MAINTAIN their cars... Of course if you beat the **** out of it, any car will "die after a certain age"... sheesh. please stop disguising your faux opinions as facts.
Maybe you should stop talking out of your a$$ and read up on some recent statistics, boy.

Technically, any car should last if not beat upon like you said. However, it has been proven over and over again that, on average, foreign cars are MUCH more reliable than domestics. Whether you watch TV, read it in magazines, newspapers, hear it on the radio, or even search the internet you will find that most reliable vehicles are foreign, where Asian take first and German, although often debated, take second.

I watch news on TV, be it CNN or whatever else and I swear in the last couple months they stated at least 5 or 6 times during vehicle reports that Asian cars lead the way. On all of these lists, despite of what many in this thread believe, LEXUS does hold the #1 spot END OF STORY. Beemers, mercedes, and audis are very good cars - I myself love German automobiles. But in every single statistic and survey LEXUS owns all - on average, it breaks down least of all cars, outlives all cars, and has had the least number of recalls of all cars.

I don't like the smarta$$es who say that LEXUS is a mazda or a toyota with a bigger sticker blah blah blah - BS! If you really think that, than you've probably never ridden in one, let alone drove it. Lexus is an amazing car in all aspects of the word. With a Lexus you really do get what you pay for. They're not made to be sporty performance vehicles also so I can understand why one would take a typical Maxima over a lexus. However, put "sporty performance" aside and I'll take a lexus over a Maxima anyday! I just don't see how some 4th gen Maxima owners can think bad of, let alone bash a precision-made vehicle like LEXUS.

Lastly, sorry to break this to you domestic lovers, but domestics are, on average, the least reliable cars here in the US - a non-disputable fact of life

That is precisely why I am not thrilled with the newest gen Maxima, although I don't want to judge her too soon, simply because it's made where else if not USA - Tennessee to be exact I believe.
 
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Good information Boss, May be the next car would be Lexus. I want to Open Lexus.org. LOL just joking.... .
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he's right. if you've ever been in a lexus, they are quite luxurious, but thats about it. I prefer sport with luxury as a side item. Not the other way around. Just for my preference, I'd take my Max over a Lexus ES300...they are good cars, but I'll take performance over luxury. And it is true that foreign cars last longer...notice Cadillacs happen to be the worst built cars ever...AND WHAT DO YA KNOW...AMERICAN...
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Originally Posted by BOSS
Maybe you should stop talking out of your a$$ and read up on some recent statistics, boy.

Technically, any car should last if not beat upon like you said. However, it has been proven over and over again that, on average, foreign cars are MUCH more reliable than domestics. Whether you watch TV, read it in magazines, newspapers, hear it on the radio, or even search the internet you will find that most reliable vehicles are foreign, where Asian take first and German, although often debated, take second.

I watch news on TV, be it CNN or whatever else and I swear in the last couple months they stated at least 5 or 6 times during vehicle reports that Asian cars lead the way. On all of these lists, despite of what many in this thread believe, LEXUS does hold the #1 spot END OF STORY. Beemers, mercedes, and audis are very good cars - I myself love German automobiles. But in every single statistic and survey LEXUS owns all - on average, it breaks down least of all cars, outlives all cars, and has had the least number of recalls of all cars.

I don't like the smarta$$es who say that LEXUS is a mazda or a toyota with a bigger sticker blah blah blah - BS! If you really think that, than you've probably never ridden in one, let alone drove it. Lexus is an amazing car in all aspects of the word. With a Lexus you really do get what you pay for. They're not made to be sporty performance vehicles also so I can understand why one would take a typical Maxima over a lexus. However, put "sporty performance" aside and I'll take a lexus over a Maxima anyday! I just don't see how some 4th gen Maxima owners can think bad of, let alone bash a precision-made vehicle like LEXUS.

Lastly, sorry to break this to you domestic lovers, but domestics are, on average, the least reliable cars here in the US - a non-disputable fact of life

That is precisely why I am not thrilled with the newest gen Maxima, although I don't want to judge her too soon, simply because it's made where else if not USA - Tennessee to be exact I believe.
Under the maxima on my list of cars was the SC300/400. I test drove a '94 Lexus SC400 before I got my max, and all I can say is that they were both equal in quality in means of wear and tear. Lexus' will last much longer than any other car out there, but it takes money to keep them that way when they get older. If I had the money for insurance (monthly was quoted $100 per month higher for the SC400) I would have taken it in a second. Those cars are all about luxury, and the SC400 has performance, more than the max. Insurance was the ONLY thing keeping me back. Id still sell my car in a second for a SC400 or even a 5spd SC300. They might weigh 500lbs more than the max, but the SC400 can easily hit mid 14s with just a torque converter and a good set of tires. Theres nothing slow about a lexus, some of them might be heavy, but alot of them make up for it. The newer GS430 have 300+hp, and weigh a sh!tload, but those things can hit low 14s if driven right. Only luxury? I think not. So I agree with you BOSS.
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yeah, depending on what lexus you get. I was comparing the es300 to the max, same class car. Id take a GS430 special edition, or IS300 5 spd too...dont get me wrong
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Wow... such a long post for what? Guess what, you are an idiot. You should wipe that crust from your eyes, or maybe you you should get some reading glasses. no where did I say that foreign build quality was INFERIOR to domestic. All i said was that DOMESTIC cars do not have a predetermined "expiration" date. Your bash to me falls on deaf ears. Statistically, imports have much better build, because in the PAST, Foreign car makers had MUCH STRICTER tolerances than the domestic market. Duhhh, of course they are going to be "better". Nowadays, with everyone carmaker upgrading their processing and manufacturing abilities, the gap difference between the automakers should be shrinking dramatically. of course "QUALITY" will be different between a 25k$ car and a 45k$. materials, craftsmanship, etc will be better.

I am not a domestic car lover. I am a CAR lover. I dont discriminate. You sound like a stupid fanboy who cant afford a lexus, so had to settle for a maxima. "Sporty". Ha... get the GS430, or SC430... it'll dust you before you can say, "im a dumbass".

And the old ES300 was basically a camry, you idiot.
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yeah just like a 96 maxima is "basically" a infiniti i 30, you idiot. or the G35 coupe is the same as the 350z...what does that have to do with anything. The higher scale of the two is going to have a few more luxury options, a few more upgrades. like the new es300's have 200 hp, and the camrys have 192...i dunno, the point of you bringing that up was what?
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Lastly, sorry to break this to you domestic lovers, but domestics are, on average, the least reliable cars here in the US - a non-disputable fact of life
Exactly what i was saying. I'm not saying american cars are made to die at a certain year, i'm saying they are made to last as long as foreign cars.
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yeah just like a 96 maxima is "basically" a infiniti i 30, you idiot. or the G35 coupe is the same as the 350z...what does that have to do with anything. The higher scale of the two is going to have a few more luxury options, a few more upgrades. like the new es300's have 200 hp, and the camrys have 192...i dunno, the point of you bringing that up was what?
Did you see the Old Lexus ES300? Compare that to the Camry XLE. Same drivetrain, suspension, interior is almost the same... Spend a few thousand more for the name. And for the I30. yes... the I30 is essentially a glorified Maxima GLE.
The reason I bring it up is because Mr. Bossface claimed that LEXUS isnt just a rebadged Toyota. And I brought up a counterpoint and proved him wrong.

and btw, G35 is not the same and 350Z, you IDIOT.
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of course they arent, i never said they were. I was just using examples to prove you wrong. If they were the same thing, there'd be no need to sell it under two different names now would there? And BOSS never said what Lexus model he was referring to when he said it wasnt a debadged toyota.
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Wow... such a long post for what? Guess what, you are an idiot. You should wipe that crust from your eyes, or maybe you you should get some reading glasses. no where did I say that foreign build quality was INFERIOR to domestic. All i said was that DOMESTIC cars do not have a predetermined "expiration" date. Your bash to me falls on deaf ears. Statistically, imports have much better build, because in the PAST, Foreign car makers had MUCH STRICTER tolerances than the domestic market. Duhhh, of course they are going to be "better". Nowadays, with everyone carmaker upgrading their processing and manufacturing abilities, the gap difference between the automakers should be shrinking dramatically. of course "QUALITY" will be different between a 25k$ car and a 45k$. materials, craftsmanship, etc will be better.

I am not a domestic car lover. I am a CAR lover. I dont discriminate. You sound like a stupid fanboy who cant afford a lexus, so had to settle for a maxima. "Sporty". Ha... get the GS430, or SC430... it'll dust you before you can say, "im a dumbass".

And the old ES300 was basically a camry, you idiot.
my guess is ilumo is 5 years old and wants to argue for the sake of it. I tell him the facts and he disputes them. The reason people like you get flamed so often is because you bring up points, or dispute something with nothing to back it up. And "predetermined expiration" for domestics??? Obviously not, the point I was making is that YES, ON AVERAGE a domestic car's "expiration" WILL come sooner.

"of course "QUALITY" will be different between a 25k$ car and a 45k$. materials, craftsmanship, etc will be better." ----- You make no sense whatsoever. I wasn't just referring to the LEXUS in case you haven't noticed ...nor am I talking about a foreign vehicle for $45k vs. a domestic for $25k. I'm talking about an overall comparison of foreign cars to domestics even if it means cars in the same price range.

It's OK though, you're most likely a sophmore in high school who just got his license.
 
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of course they arent, i never said they were. I was just using examples to prove you wrong. If they were the same thing, there'd be no need to sell it under two different names now would there? And BOSS never said what Lexus model he was referring to when he said it wasnt a debadged toyota.
Then you need to work on some skills, son. You havn't proved me wrong. if anything, you have proved that you are ignorant. A 350z is NOT a G35. Well, a few differences 1 has a SEDAN option, while one has only a COUPE option. one has a ReAR seat, while the other one only has 2 fronts, interiors are TOTALLY different... damn kiddo. Atleast say a Maxima and an I35.
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haha, BOSS, i wasnt talking about you man, it was aimed at ilumo
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of course they arent, i never said they were. I was just using examples to prove you wrong. If they were the same thing, there'd be no need to sell it under two different names now would there? And BOSS never said what Lexus model he was referring to when he said it wasnt a debadged toyota.
listen eckohb, like I said before, ilumo is obviously young and ignorant. He presumably thinks that personally attacking others who know considerably more about the topic at hand will make him sound more intelligent.

in all probability, he was
 
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my guess is ilumo is 5 years old and wants to argue for the sake of it. I tell him the facts and he disputes them. The reason people like you get flamed so often is because you bring up points, or dispute something with nothing to back it up. And "predetermined expiration" for domestics??? Obviously not, the point I was making is that YES, ON AVERAGE a domestic car's "expiration" WILL come sooner.

"of course "QUALITY" will be different between a 25k$ car and a 45k$. materials, craftsmanship, etc will be better." ----- You make no sense whatsoever. I wasn't just referring to the LEXUS in case you haven't noticed ...nor am I talking about a foreign vehicle for $45k vs. a domestic for $25k. I'm talking about an overall comparison of foreign cars to domestics even if it means cars in the same price range.

It's OK though, you're most likely a sophmore in high school who just got his license.
No... I like to correct people who make blatently FALSE comments... eg.
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i beg to differ. Some american cars built are meant to die after a certain age, thats why honda, mercedes, nissan, toyota and all the other foriegn car companies are loved so much for their reliability and ford, chevy, dodge, etc are disliked.
=FALSE ok.
So I have to correct him, and maybe it was a little HARSH, but I had to make a point. Now you come in, and try to educate ME with magazine and tv statisitics that I already know. I dispute the degree of manufacturing quality between domestics and imports... and how its NOT that far apart nowadays. because like ive explained before.. its NOT.

Sophomore in HS. I think not... If I was, id be bashing your ride, and be saying mines better, neener neener.fanboy
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yeah, i realize that. I was just defending your point. and i wasnt actually saying a g35 and 350z were the same, i was just comparing two cars, saying they were the same like he did. It's all good BOSS
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Anyway. This thread has gone past its use. It no longer has valuable information. Just a bunch of rambling. mods shoud lock it up.
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haha, BOSS, i wasnt talking about you man, it was aimed at ilumo
I know, I didn't post that, ilumo did

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Anyway. This thread has gone past its use. It no longer has valuable information. Just a bunch of rambling. mods shoud lock it up.
Hey, YOU made it useless ilumo

The only thing mods should lock up is your org account

You have definitely gone past YOUR use with your insults and overall attitude

In the end, it's funny how you find your own contribution to the above-listed posts as "a bunch of rambling"
 
Old 03-15-2004, 09:04 PM
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once again, im gonna side with BOSS on this one. He does bring up some very interesting, yet true facts and points
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Old 03-15-2004, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BOSS
I know, I didn't post that, ilumo did



Hey, YOU made it useless ilumo

The only thing mods should lock up is your org account

You have definitely gone past YOUR use with your insults and overall attitude

In the end, it's funny how you find your own contribution to the above-listed posts as "a bunch of rambling"
and so you drag me back into it. lock up my account? for what? For stating SOME opinions, and CORRECTING some false facts? Sorry "boss", but I am free to state my opinion. like i said before, I am harsh, and use blunt language... if you cant handle it... go cry a river... ... but i only use that when people have blantly uneducated responses.
And with your lifeless flame on me, I felt it necessary to point out some of your idiotic comments as well.
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