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Old Mar 20, 2001 | 09:38 PM
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Okay, i just installed my the stock foglights on my 97 GXE maxima, Then when i rewired them i found out that they only turn on with the parking light and the high beams. they don't work with my lowbeams. I have checked the instructions and have tried it 2 times. Can some one tell me how no rewire my foglight so they are on with the low beams, high beams and the parking light. Also when i rewired the fog light the switch didn't work either.

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Old Mar 20, 2001 | 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by DeSI Racing
Okay, i just installed my the stock foglights on my 97 GXE maxima, Then when i rewired them i found out that they only turn on with the parking light and the high beams. they don't work with my lowbeams. I have checked the instructions and have tried it 2 times. Can some one tell me how no rewire my foglight so they are on with the low beams, high beams and the parking light. Also when i rewired the fog light the switch didn't work either.

I need help.

Thanks
I don't know how to help ya...but I'll give you a bump back up to the top so maybe someone can. good luck...
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 07:00 AM
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If it is now working exactly opposite of factory, it sounds like you cut the wrong wire on the back of the relay base.
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 07:38 AM
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i checked the wire

i checked the wire, its the green/yellow wire under the relay connects to the red/bleu wire in the cornerlight. it still dosen't work. any other suggestions.

Originally posted by sinewave
If it is now working exactly opposite of factory, it sounds like you cut the wrong wire on the back of the relay base.
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 08:42 AM
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Re: i checked the wire

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i checked the wire, its the green/yellow wire under the relay connects to the red/bleu wire in the cornerlight. it still dosen't work. any other suggestions.

Have you seen this link?

http://web2.airmail.net/scutchen/max...ht.htm#lowfog4

I know its made for a car already wired from the factory - meaning the fogs are only on with low beams, but if you didn't wire it right maybe this info can show you where you went wrong?

Failing that, I'd look in a shop manual at the curcuit diagrams and check it against what you have.

{BTW, the thread title: "Please someone help me" is not clear on what you need help with. Some mention of "foglight wiring" would be a big help}

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Old Mar 21, 2001 | 05:25 PM
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Re: i checked the wire

i have cheched the link, i followed the directions, and i rewired it again. and again the foglights don't turn on with the lowbeams, they are only on with the parking lights and the highbeams. is there a way to get to stay on when i turn the switch is on, with the high/low beams and the parking lights.
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 06:46 PM
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Sounds like the the trigger ground may be hooked up to a positive source instead (I can't remember the numbers on the relays)... So when there is power supplied to the trigger (from the lowbeams) it shuts off the relay... I'm assuming the relay main power (#30 on relay) is supplied only when headlight switch is on past parking light position.
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 06:50 PM
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so what do i do now?
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 06:56 PM
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so what do i do now?
I'm not familiar with the kit so it's hard to really give you exact information...

Are you familiar with P&B or Bosch single throw relays and how they work? (This assumes the kit uses such relays to be of any help. The relay should have either 4 or 5 wires going into it...)
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 06:59 PM
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no i have no idea waht they are, is there any other way.
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 07:05 PM
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no i have no idea waht they are, is there any other way.
Hmm... lemme try to explain... maybe it might give you an idea...

The relay is just a "switching station". It has a power source (#30) that when triggered (explained below) connects to the throw (foglights in this case). The trigger is comprised of two wires... a ground and 12V source... when you have both you get the trigger to supply power (#30)to the foglights (the throw)...

See if you can figure out the wires... the trigger wires are usually thinner than the 30 and throw...

Good luck...

(PS... to all you EEs if i've massacred any terms... forgive me! lol)
Old Mar 21, 2001 | 07:15 PM
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can't i just splice the green/yellowire and connect it to the red and blue wire of the corner blinker. won't that work.
Old Mar 22, 2001 | 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by Chunger

The relay is just a "switching station". It has a power source (#30) that when triggered (explained below) connects to the throw (foglights in this case). The trigger is comprised of two wires... a ground and 12V source... when you have both you get the trigger to supply power (#30)to the foglights (the throw)...

See if you can figure out the wires... the trigger wires are usually thinner than the 30 and throw...
Yeah, a relay is just a switch. There are two wires on a relay that activate it. If one is grounded and one has 12V, it will turn on whatever is wired to it. If you can isolate these activation wires and seperate them from the others, trace them and see where they go. Somehow you're getting power only when you have park lites or hi beams. Maybe your ground is hooked to the low beams, that way you would have power to park and hi beam. Check it and see.

DESI RACING, you say that this is stock fogs you put on? How did they have you wire it? Can you tell us more about it? Was it a kit?

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Old Mar 22, 2001 | 07:27 AM
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The kit i got was from the dealer, and the wiring has already done by Nissan. all i did was put in the relay, attached the foglights. i had to do no wiring my self. that is way i am wondering why can't i rewire them, if everyone else has done it ans it work, whats wrong with my maxima.

I would like to thank everyone that is triing to help me.

THANK-YOU
Old Mar 22, 2001 | 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by DeSI Racing
The kit i got was from the dealer, and the wiring has already done by Nissan. all i did was put in the relay, attached the foglights. i had to do no wiring my self. that is way i am wondering why can't i rewire them, if everyone else has done it ans it work, whats wrong with my maxima.

I would like to thank everyone that is triing to help me.

THANK-YOU
So you say that Nissan wired it? As in: it was made new with the wires in it, right? When you put the relay in then the fogs only light in park and hi beam? Hmmm, somethings not right. I don't get it.

Assuming that the fogs come on only with low beam headlights, you can then do this mod:

http://web2.airmail.net/scutchen/ma...ght.htm#lowfog4

I used this link to do mine and it worked great. But you have to start out with the right stuff. Sounds like Nissan messed up the wiring when they made the car. We all assume that a car w/o fogs thats wired for it is wired correctly, maybe not, dunno.

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Old Mar 22, 2001 | 07:46 AM
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All the wirring was done when i car was built. when i installed the foglight in the beginning as the factory instructions said, they only turned on and off with the lowbeams. when I tried to rewire them as to your instructions, they turn on with the parking lights and with the highbeams, but the switch dosen't work and they do not come on with the low beams. i have done thes mod about 5 time now and every time i get the same result.

What should i do? so should i just give up?

Thanks
Old Mar 22, 2001 | 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by DeSI Racing
All the wirring was done when i car was built. when i installed the foglight in the beginning as the factory instructions said, they only turned on and off with the lowbeams. when I tried to rewire them as to your instructions, they turn on with the parking lights and with the highbeams, but the switch dosen't work and they do not come on with the low beams. i have done thes mod about 5 time now and every time i get the same result.

What should i do? so should i just give up?

Thanks
Nah, keep trying some more. You'll get there.

I understand now that you put the relay in and installed the fogs that they DO light up on low beam headlights only, right? Ok, this is good, now when you go to do the mod (see my post above for the link again) then it does this park/hi beam thing? Check the wire that you ran to the relay. The one from the sidemarker light? Get a voltmeter (even a light bulb and a couple wires will do) and check it for current by putting one lead on the sidemarker wire (its the red wire, not black) and a good ground. You should see 12V with parks, lo beam, and hi beam. If not, THATS your problem. Otherwise, check and make SURE that you have the right wire from the relay.

If you got the relay GROUND wire instead of the HOT one, then you'd have just what its doing, on in park, on on hi, off on lo, because you have two 12v and no gnd in low, and a 12v and gnd in hi and park. Make SURE you have the correct wire out of the relay. Its got to be the one they describe on the website. Recheck your work very carefully.

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Old Mar 22, 2001 | 08:43 AM
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thanks i will try it later on today, if i have any problems i will let you know.

Thanks again
Old Mar 23, 2001 | 06:03 AM
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thanks i will try it later on today, if i have any problems i will let you know.

Thanks again
So? Was that it? I've been thinking that its gotta be what I said at the bottom of my last post. It explains why it acts like this. If not, I'm at a loss for any other ideas.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 06:19 AM
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So? Was that it? I've been thinking that its gotta be what I said at the bottom of my last post. It explains why it acts like this. If not, I'm at a loss for any other ideas.
Jack
So? Thanks to the broken search here , its now so easy to lose a post. Any word on your problem?

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 10:29 AM
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i tryed it

i tryed it againbut it didn't work, what i think i will do is instead of taking the splice from the relay going to the cornerlight. i will take it to my hazard light(the light beside the headlights) if that dosen't work i am just going to five up on the idea for now.

Thanks for all your help.
Old Mar 26, 2001 | 11:12 AM
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Re: i tryed it

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i tryed it againbut it didn't work, what i think i will do is instead of taking the splice from the relay going to the cornerlight. i will take it to my hazard light(the light beside the headlights) if that dosen't work i am just going to five up on the idea for now.

Thanks for all your help.
Question.....Do the sidemarkers work at all when the low beams are on and you don,t have the mod done? The way you are trying is exactly what I did and it works just fine.
Old Mar 26, 2001 | 11:33 AM
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Re: i tryed it

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i tryed it againbut it didn't work, what i think i will do is instead of taking the splice from the relay going to the cornerlight. i will take it to my hazard light(the light beside the headlights) if that dosen't work i am just going to five up on the idea for now.

Thanks for all your help.
Something I just noticed. In your "mod" section of your post, I noticed that you rewired your corners. I think your problem with the foglights lies somewhere in there. I have a 95 and DO NOT have the corners rewired mainly because they get brighter with the turn signals and have no need to rewire them. What was done to your corners as far as the rewiring goes? In my factory service manual the corners and sidemarkers are some what linked together and I guessing that on yours this also might hold true. 95s and 97s are different but do post back with the details of what was done because I think that is where your problem is. Hope this helps.




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