millsness101

I am planning on getting the B&M short shifter but I am open to any other suggestions.

Rowan

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B&M or nothing. Awesome quality, no vibrations, it really losened up for me about 1 month in!

More notchy getting into first but that's true for most sss from what I've read on the org. Just do the research...

-Rowan

RideTheMax

Everything that Rowan said. Some people have trouble with hitting the shifter trim in 1,3,and 5. I don't have this problem. I love my B&M. Go for it.

millsness101

Where is the cheapest place to buy a B&M

1FSTMAX

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Ehhhh I think B&M sucks goat nads, compared to my stillen STS..

JSutter

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I have an adjustable Pacesetter STS and no complaints. It maybe crap, I dont know, but it works for me.

Y2KSESteve

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I love my B&M also... get it at www.southwestautoworks.com.

Taken2DaMax

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WOW really into the stillen,eh? I have the same thing but the notchiness in the STS sucks goat utters.

Other than that stillen does have a shorter throw than B&M. Something like 60%...

millsness101

too bad the stillen is almost twice as much as the B&M

1FSTMAX

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redline MT 90 helps reduce the notchiness.

Taken2DaMax

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Sorry this is off subject but got to know...1FSTMAX were did you get the MT fluid?

SE95MaxSkyline

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I have to say i love my stillen STS i also left the inch spacer out and lowered my heat shield so it wont rub. I have had it in for 3 yrs now and i love it smooth and short.

millsness101

How much did you lower the heat shield?

jackson3837

no one has supported the pace setter, so i guess i will, jjust ordereed mine a couple of days ago for 75, around 85 shipped, a lot cheaper than stillen or B&M
BTW, the lowest B&M shifter price i came across was about 130, but i don't remember the website, but here is one for 135, not shipped...

http://store.dragracing.com/product....=2061&catid=15

1FSTMAX

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It was a online store i found though the 5th gen forum.

jackson3837

BTW, takentomax, here is a link to the redline Mt 90 fluid...

http://www.sp-power.com/catalog/prod...oducts_id=3550

VQuick

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Would you B&M owners say the shift-throw reduction (supposedly 40%) is "just right"? The only reason I was considering a Pacesetter was its adjustability, but 40% sounds good to me and having to futz around with the Pacesetter's settings might be more trouble than it's worth anyway.

I think I'm going to order a B&M

sadice

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B&M

mm347

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Originally posted by Boznian (look in the fluids and lubricants sticky http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=225766)

Cheap price of Redline tranny fluid,

www.myoilshop.com

It is $7.00 for a quart. For 10% discount, at check out, type in: 675421

Buy 5 qt of MT90 - it's a GL 4 grade!!

Taken2DaMax

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thanks guys for the info.

1FSTMAX

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I have felt a b&m shifter, and I did't like it one bit. Gears are hard to find, and hard to get into. I would be afraid of trying to shift quickly, and missing or breaking a gear. Now that would suck.

VQuick

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Do you have a STS on your car? Because any STS is going to feel bad, stiff, hard to shift if you're used to stock. The question at hand is, for those who have a STS and use it everyday, are you happy with that particular STS?

VQuick

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Bump. Any last minute testimonials? I'm about to order the B&M...

spiff56747

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I got the pacesetter, its definetely notchier than stock. But then again you dont feel like you're rowing a boat. Also, the pivot ball was way too big when I installed it, I had to buy a dremel and sand it down like crazy. But overall its a decent STS.

1FSTMAX

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Yeah I have a Stillen STS, and compared B&M the stillen one has way better feel and throws. It doesn't take that much force to put into gears, unlike the b&m.

VQuick

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You're ignoring a variable here: the B&M was on someone else's car while the Stillen is on your car, which you're used to. Their transmission was different and their transmission fluid may have been different. The Stillen has a 60% shift reduction while the B&M has only a 40% shift reduction, I've read. So it makes no sense to me that the Stillen would take less force to shift....

Thanks for the input.

millsness101

Now I am even more confused!? Should I go with the more expensive stillen or the cheaper B&M? I cant decide, help is needed

Keyser Skoze

I have the stillen also and I like it. Yes it is expensive compared to others but I have no complaints. My last Max had the stillen and now my new one has it too.

95maxrider

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I went with B&M because I heard of quality issues with the Stillen, plus I think it was more expensive. Sure my B&M is notchy, even with Amsoil synthetic fluid, but driving around with the stock shifter is crazy. I can't comment on the Stillen's feel, but I would guess B&M would be a little smoother. Who knows....

1FSTMAX

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I know for a fact the fluid was the same, as well as the trans. Also if you notice the b&m is a very short shifter height wise. The stillen one is stock sized (height), so you have more levarge with the stillen. The B&M is shorter so it takes more force to move it through the gears.

1FSTMAX

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Quality issues? I have only heard of 1 in the past year. I have not had any problem with my stillen sts since I installed it a year ago.

Mishmosh

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I have tried the Pacesetter, and the Stillen is decidedly better. It is a hefty, quality part. The throws are short AND it is not a workout to shift. Mainly, this is becuase the shifter is close to stock height while other shifters are shorter. I would definitely recommend the Stillen to anyone.