Ladzio

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Today I was at Maxximum Tuning where Jim installed WS Y-pipe. Everything is cool and stuff, but now my catback is way too loud and sounds real ricy. What can I do to quiet it down, install some resonators, or better get another catback?? I want it to be as quiet as possible and still get some power gains.

Thanks for opinions!!

Nismo

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I think you need to get rid of the ractive muffer

tyrotrader

get a stock or 5th gen muffler + or - resonator

Ladzio

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That's what I thought too. Leave B-pipe alone and just do someting to the muffler. NOW I know why they call Ractive fart-cans.
Stock 5th gen would be nice. Gotta look around!

Ladzio

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Another question I have, will the 5th gen muffler itself quiet down the exhaust or I do need some resonators welded on there??

Thanks!

1996blackmax

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Do you have a resonator at all on the B-pipe? I was under the impression that even with a quiet muffler, you would still need to have a resonator on the B-pipe.

Ladzio

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No, B-pipe does not have resonator. Hmm, so looks like I better get it too...

IZZYS96SE

Resonator a must and get yourself 4th or 5th gen muffler or did what I did get a borla pro xs muffler. Great low deep sound.. I've been through five mufflers already.. Good luck!

japmaxSE

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I have the same problem I got a Warpspeed Y pipe and no Cat no resonator and 2.5 inch pipe from the y pipe to my Borla Xs muffler and I love the sound of it at low RPM's but when I get on it it's really ricy and to loud way to loud I've been trhough OBX, magnaflow mufflers and nothing seems to work I love the fact of the power gains but don't want anything in the way of my free flow exhaust. Suggestions>>anyone thanx.

Ladzio

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I just got from Midas. They quote me $427 fro everything to put another muffler and new midpipe. Muffler is Ravin Stailnless Steel ($125) and OEM 2 1/4" midpipe with resonator ($100). That is too much. I spent basically all my tax return ($1000) on car and other stuff. Gotta look for options. I am ready to spend no more than $200 for this....

...anyone, suggestions...

ch13f

Just get a 5th gen muffler, you won't loose more than few hp. Also, any local exhaust shop should be able to weld a resonator on your current b-pipe for like 60$. It takes them 15 minutes.

Ladzio

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How much 5th gen mufflers go for. Midas quoted me only like $200 for labor, maybe I should look around better...

NYC_Maxima97

You can try DEI exhaust wrap, that seems to lower the pitch of the exhaust a bit. You can put that everywhere on your exhaust basically, but tey're used more commonly on the y-pipe.

Brudaddy

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Vlad, I will help you out.
Go to my cardomain site first to see what a 5th gen muffler looks like on a 4th gen.

I looked in the classifieds here on the .org and found one from someone that had barely been used for $100 shipped. It was practically brand new. Mine is a 2000 model with the chrome oval tip. I like it, but you could also get a 2002/2003 with just the dual pipes.

What did you do with your stock resonator? I kept mine on there. I got the muffler shop to custom bend me some 2.5" aluminized steel pipe for the b-pipe, and to weld it all together. They did all this for $50. (I kept the stock resonator and have 5th gen muffler).

I have a Wsp y-pipe and now stock cat, stock resonator, 2.5" b-pipe, and 5th gen muffler. It sounds great! I love it. I did all that for $280, including the new WSP y-pipe. It sounds like a BMW M3. It kind of sounds like the G35, but without the dual exhaust to make it louder.
It is as good as performance gain as any other aftermarket muffler. I mean, the 5th gens esp are high flow, and they have two pipes. If you are not using much throttle, they will just use one pipe. But if you get on it at WOT, both will open up for more flow.

Mine hung on the stock hangers.
The only other catch is that you will have to cut your bumper a little to make the two pipe setup look right. It is not hard though, and I recommend doing this yourself. I had it done, and I am very disappointed. I ended up fixing it pretty good myself. ( I would suggest just using a heavy rasp that has a rounded/oval edge. It is slow this way, but much more accurate than just cutting.)

**NOTE: I would not cut the height of the stock muffler hole in the bumper any higher....only wider. I cut it a little higher and should not have. Learn from my mistakes. This is because I think the 5th gen muffler pipes hang down a little lower than the 4th gens.**

Sorry for the long post...

Ladzio

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Thanks Brudaddy, that is a very informative post. It's good to learn from somebody's expirience. I purchased my car already with custom B-pipe which is actually of quite a poor quality and without resonator and with Ractive muffler there. I know that everyone on the Org says Ractive sucks, but it did give nice growl at low RPMs, did not sound raspy and you could not hear it after 2,5K RPMs.
So now after Y-pipe it all changed dramatically. I plan on taking a video tomorrow. I talked to one dude on the Org who is from Massachusets, and he has a very good shop in his town that can make me custom catback for less than $200. If all turns out well he will bring it to the meet in New Jersey and maybe I will even install it there on the spot. If that does not work out, I will be digging further for some shops in my area. Just gotta take time. If I find a good deal, I will grab 5th Gen muffler with pleasure, otherwise I wanna stick with Dynomax or Flowmaster, or any good quality chambered muffler.

I was complete newb when I got the Max and got the car in really bad condition, but I learned a great deal around it, just by fixing small or big bugs. That expirience was definitely worth it!

bluestealz

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go with the apex or greddy sp ...just save up

Taken2DaMax

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Don't go with apexi ws if you are gonna get a y-pipe. The apexi alone is the supreme tone for a car exhaust. But when you add the y-pipe it sounds like a ricer car.

Unfortunately i just got use to it.

THT

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Would adding an additional resonator to an already-resonated b-pipe solve the problem of a ricey exhaust note caused by the y-pipe?

~THT

Taken2DaMax

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The apexi catback has a resonator already but i don't think that you can add a second one.

THT

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I was afraid of that. My SP2 is also resonated and I'm trying to figure out a way to quiet my exhaust without changing mufflers. Is it possible to add a resonater to a test pipe?

~THT

Ladzio

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I never heard of resonated test pipes. But I did hear that people put 2 resonators on b-pipe

1FSTMAX

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You must be kidding... I have heard the WS with a y pipe, and it sounds bad ***. No ricer shiet there..

Brudaddy

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How would this be beneficial?
The resonator is very long and to put two on there, you would practically not have a b-pipe.

Vlad, I would not trake out the whole catback system. Just get a new muffler and have a muffler shop weld it on there. No need if the pipes are still good and you already have a muffler.

When I was getting my muffler, I was talking to a guy, chris' max, down in Louisiana that has one. You might want to try to pm him.

I don't have the thread that he was selling it anymore, but just look through some of the old classifieds and then just pm people and wait to hear back.

THT

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Would adding a second resonator reduce airflow or have a negative effect on performance? Or would a new muffler be a better way to reduce noise? I ask because I really don't want to give up my SP2 muffler.

~THT

1FSTMAX

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Depends on the type of resonator used. You want to use a perforated core resonator since nothing blocks the flow of air, the louvered(sp) core ones suck.

Here is a pic


dont use this type of resonator, since it robs power.

Brudaddy

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1fstmax, I was saying that I didn't think 2 resonators would be a good idea because of it taking up all the space that is normally smooth b-pipe. What are your thoughts on that?

THT

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The addition of another resonator would deepen the tone of the exhaust, right? Or would it just quiet it?

~THT

1FSTMAX

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well perforated core resonators are smooth on the inside, and they dont take hp away. The org member Chunger had three resonator on his y pipe, and he mentioned he only lost 1-2 HP. Adding more resonators will get rid of the raspyness of the exhaust, make it quieter, and deepen it.

1FSTMAX

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both...

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Ladzio

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2 resonators.... sounds interesting to try...
One could be right after cat and another right before muffler.

That's doable..

1FSTMAX

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The original greddy sp comes with two resonators.

Brudaddy

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I guess the resonators that you are referring to having two of them are shorter than the stock one?
That stock one is like a foot and a half long.

1FSTMAX

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this is a what the original sp looks like.

THT

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Why the hell did GReddy remove one resonator? Time to go see if a muffler shop can add one back in.

~THT

THT

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Okay, I had a resonated added, just before the B-pipe bolts to the muffler and I must say, GReddy really screwed up. The car sounds slightly deeper than stock now at any throttle besides WOT. At WOT, you get a nice deep tone with no bees-in-a-can noise. Cost me $60; well spent, IMO.

~THT

blackmaxx96

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just get a stillen catback, or muffler... the best of the best I think!

THT

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No thanks....I hear it drones and is a little on the ricey side, not to mention, loud.

~THT

blackmaxx96

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nooo way... i got the stillen with the warp speed ypipe... my car was the quietest one at the last NC maxima meet we had.. other than the stock exhaust guys.... no drone, and if you think its ricey, its probably the deepest setup ive heard on a maxima.. ask any of the guys who were at the meet!

VelfarreClubber

thats what i was gonna do, after reading the forums.. im thinking of getting a y-pipe and a greddy sp or a borla pro xs muffler. i want a deep sound no freakn typical ricey honda sound (hate it!)

currently i have a apexi dunk muffler which i bought back in high school, was cool but it looks like a potato shooter now, and no resonator. the sound is kinda deep but not loud enough, beats stock of course. it still turns a few heads in the parking garages ie. valet, mall, bar/clubs, etc

im want to get a new muffler, with a y pipe. what are the best options?