no big surprise, I knew i would lose but i thought it would be closer.

My mods:
UDP
Muffler
PR CAI
Budget Y
Drop resitor

Yes, im an auto w/ 19s so I did no justice to our maximas, sorry

His car is stock. His car goes till about 30-35mph till he needs to shift into second, then 2nd gear just kills, pulled about 2 car lenghts on me in 2nd......

Just thought i would let everyone know since I usually dont post race stories. I usually keep up w/ or win against most cars. I cant wait till im w/ him and an acura/honda try to go......

anyways, these cars are no joke

 

He might be able to outrun you, but he can't outrun ugly.

 

srt4 is the only american sport compact ill give props to since it actually has some SERIOUS pottential. looks are oppinion but its performance are all factual.

 

how many times do I have to say it....

At the end of the day, when all is said and done... You're still driving a maxima. Your friend is stuck driving a neon.

 

I couldnt had said it better myself

 

and on a neon board this would be translated to:

"he's still driving his mom's family sedan 4x4 so wtf was he thinking? You like wasting gas?"

srt4's are nice cars. Sure they don't win much in the style department, but nor do auto maximas with 19" rims. Maximas aren't great because they look stunning (they don't), they're great because of the VQ30DE. Play to your strengths.

 

sorry, no 4x4 for me. Your still driving a Dodge... nuff said
and I dont know about you but Maximas.. atleast 4th Gens had a very subtle styling. If you saw or heard mine... you would never think of it as a family sedan


Thats what sucks about not having a digicam... I cant take any new pictures

 

Of course he whupped you! His car is in the 5s for 0-60 and yours is in the 7's with that auto, not including your mods. Plus those 19's aren't helping!

 

i agee those 19's hurt you big way no doubt they are fast but with your mods it should go even

 

You're joking right? He's probably running mid 15s while the SRT is running mid to low 14s. He's just wasting gas racing cars that will blow his doors off.

 

the srt-4's tail pipes look good huh? i've seen my friends one time to many

 

I have pulled one by a bumper from about a 70 roll on the interstate, there pretty fast and I have lightweight 16s and MEVI jwt ecu, y pipe, test pipe, intake

 

Neon or Maxima???? Still take the Max....slap a turbo...what SRT-4??

 

Here's my take on all this:

1) you're not very smart for thinking that you actually stood a chance with an auto 4th gen (regardless of your mods) and 19's!!!! DID I MENTION 19s????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A 5-spd with stock wheels and your mods would be a different story.

2) On the other hand, I don't see what's so impressing about the SRT. The car is just BUTT ugly IMO and I'd take a honda civic SI over it anyday just because of looks. Here we got a light POS Dodge 4-cyl car with a turbo and people say it's fast - ummmmmmm, not it's not. I just don't see what's so impressive about it. Ok, so it's faster than a Maxima, big deal.

It's not very hard to accomplish what dodge has - which is NOTHING. Honda can very well slap on a factory turbo on a civic of tomorrow and wallah - we got a Honda Civic Si-T that does 0-60 in under 6 seconds and a high 13-seconds 1/4 mile time - again...BIG DEAL!

FUGLY.....

 

you would take a 2004 Honda Civic Si over a 2004 Dodge Neon Srt-4?

A Subaru WRX STi is a 4-cyl car too...

It is very hard to accomplish what Dodge has, which is EVERYTHING.

ok, so if you need more clarification, "everything" means power on the cheap.

Wouldn't you like it if Nissan embraced turbos? Wouldn't it be great if Nissan said "hey we're going to put out a 7th gen Maxima that looks just like a 4th gen, but with a 15psi turbo kit".

Kudos to Dodge for raising the bar that little bit.

Yeah, ugly car.

So is that the best defence we 4th gens have for a 4cyl car that owns our ***?

 

I'm with ProjectNeptune on this. Sure I love my maxima cuz of the chill bose stereo and vq torque, but the srt-4 hauls serious *** for really cheap. It'll beat a non sti wrx straightup and an evo from a roll, which is even better when they know they got beaten by a neon. The powerplant in the srt-4 is really awesome too, 230 hp and 250 lb-ft of torque, and thats from down low! not to mention the mod potential with mopar parts. Sure they may be ugly, but so was the wrx.

 

Boost the max to 20psi on that same turbo and see what power we get. Of course the turbo would run out of power at 4k rpm but who cares. Yes it's a fast car, yes it's cheap, and yes it's a damn Neon. If I wanted to drive a girly car I would have painted the max pink.

 

Some of you on here seems to give credit where its due. The SRT4 will out-accelerate, out-brake, and out-handle a 4th gen Max.

 

if that's all it came down to, I'd trade my Max for the SRT-4 and leave you driving your pink Max. Hell my first mod would be getting rid of the stupid wing. Yours would be spending $5k on a turbo...

to me, auto Maximas are girly cars, and I'm guessing there are more girlie cars on the .org than any srt-4 site.

 

Straight out of the box.... Yes. vs. a modded max.... Not necessarily.


I'm pretty sure that with my suspension and BBK, I can out brake and out handle an SRT-4. Now the acceleration on the other hand is a different story. I will give credit there. But it only gets credit for that for the first 45,000 miles. cause thats about as long as the motor will last.

David

 

Ok. We both have $20k to spend on a car. You spend it on the SRT4 and take off the wing while I spend it on a 4th gen and still have $14k left to do whatever the **** I want. Maximas being girly cars, hmm. From the looks of it 70% of neon drivers are women. Think about that.

 

rethink what you said. Are you saying 70% of srt-4 drivers are women? I need to move to where you live...

nope.

srt-4's.

stick to the subject.

srt-4's are not girlie cars.

Sure, you can spend $7k on a good condition 9x max. Then spend another $4k+ on a turbo kit. You'll also need to spend another $2k on installation, 3" piping and electronics to monitor what the VQ30DE wasn't designed for.

bottom line is that concluding an srt-4 is "just a dodge" is like saying a Maxima is just a "cheaper Accord". Neither wins on looks or interior fit-and-finish. Both score their points under the hood.

And as a Maxima owner, I figure you'd be able to appreciate that.

And if you and I both had $20k to spend on a car, I'd laugh if you stuck with a 4th gen Max...

 

OK here it goes... Maxxaddict said it right. Its a damn neon! yea its pretty damn quick but that only because of the turbo. Give the Max a turbo, and then what will the neon have on it? NOTHING!! Not to mention that a nicely worked Max will still cost less then the damn neon and will blow it away.
For those that like the neon... shame on you!
The srt-4 is just an american version of the beutiful STi and EVO. and yep thell blow the neon away in every aspect... the only thing the neons got on those is the fact that its a lot cheaper... but honestly who cares... its a neon.

 

SRT4 is a neon. +1 for the team. Paying someone to install the turbo? Get the hell out. Maxima being a cheap accord, hmm. From what I read the maxima was in a class higher than that of the accord so the accord would be a cheap maxima. I'd laugh if you bought the SRT4. Hell I'd find me an Omni GLH for $2k, fix it up for $2k and moke that srt4 of yours.

 

If I had $20k I'd get an STi and watch as you struggle with your omni. Sure I'd still be making payments but that beats putting more $$$ into an Omni lol.

Bottom line, the srt-4 is a nice car for all the reasons we love the 4th Maxima - the ****** engine. And if you can't get over the fact that it's a Dodge (omg omg omg) then you are obviously all about style over substance.

 

Ok, go get an STI for $20k. Go get it. Better yet find one that's less than $28k. I don't care if it's a dodge. Why are you comparing the VQ to an unproven engine like the one in the srt? For all you know the stock boost can blow it to pieces in a couple years.

 

lol, so now you're reduced to slagging the SRT-4 because its... new?

lame.

I wish Nissan would do new **** with their cars rather than introducing one VQ35 variant after another. Props to Dodge and their SRT-4.

sigh.. back to my pink Max.

 

Wow some of you guys are great.

I wish Nissan had the ***** Dodge does, Releasing a new line of V8 based cars when people are *****ing about gas prices. Doing a good job on the SRT-4 (price/performance/etc). Keeping the Hemi pushrod instead of going OHC. Blah blah blah.

IMHO, the SRT4 looks better than a 4th gen or non 2k2/2k3 headlight 5th gen and the 6th gens are just horriable, but atleast they put IRS on them....

 

apparently he has not researched the SRT-4's engine
I guess he doesnt know how strong it is
or how Dodge completely blasted it in the tests.


<3 slamming ice cold water into extremely hot engines, over and over and over and over again.
I guess he doesn't know that even Nascar teams stopped doing that because its just too hard on the engines.

 

You're right, I didn't research them. Ddin't want to waste my time. Still doesn't prove the engine will last long. How about we end all this arguing. I wouldn't buy a neon and you would. End it at that.

 

Those engines are tough. Dodge is pretty durable. Just minor problems.

 

everyone complains on how the neon is sooooooooo ugly. alot of you are biased because just incase you didnt notice maximas arent at the top of peoples "wow" list. even mazda (millenia) managed to come up with a design that looked better then the maxima and the millenia was a **** poor car.

since alot here are biased im going to have to bring forth a somewhat unbiased oppinion.

dont get me wrong, i love my maxima to death but it has alot of flaws, it is in no way a perfect car as some of you would like to believe. the quality of the car overall is rather poor compared to an avalon, or a passat. Handling of the maxima is very poor and im not talking about on road corses, even going around wide turns this cars body roll is horible. unless some suspension mods are installed the car feels like an old lincoln from the 70's. there are a few mechanical problems with the max aslo, especially with the sensors and coil packs, which arent really cheap fixes. sure the neon is fast but thats not all it has going for it. it handles beautifully and is rather comfortable for a compact. the dealership aftermarket support prooves they are supportive into making this a car for enthusiasts. also just cause the price is cheap it looks far from a cheap car. from what ive seen the materials, paint, tires, seats, and even the small stuff like rubber seals and stuff all seem very well put together and looks like it will last.

on the minus side for the srt-4, i bet it will have a low resale value, those stock alloys look very cheap, and it will always carry that neon name, which to many will mean crap. this neon is going to have to make a name for itself and IMO its off to a good start with the cheap price, good performance, and mopar support.

i bet alot of the people who bash this neon havent even been close to a neon to even give it a good look, go test drive one, you might not fall in love with it but i garuntee you will give it a lil more respect.

 

very well put...i honestly have no problem with the srt-4, i think they're pretty nice looking cars, and they're fast as hell straight out of the factory. would i trade my max for one, no...but that doesn't mean i'm going to hate another car that's out there...the only thing i hate about them is they can smoke the crap out of the max...i'm not one for kicks to the ego...time for that turbo kit.

 

Drop a Viper engine into the neon. Sure, it'd smoke the hell out of just about any Maxima, but I'd laugh my @ss off the whole race. You know why? Its a f*cking Neon.

 

ProjectNeptune is girlie kind of guy. He thinks neons are hot, when we all know that majority of the population, or 9 out of every 10 people would say the car is BUTT BUTT ugly. This is as ugly as a car can get.

Like I said before, honda can slap on a turbo on a civic tomorrow and it'll be just as fast. Neon is a freakin Neon. Go get one if you like it

It's a POS Dodge. You are a discrase to Maxima owners. So sell your Maxima and get a freakin Neon. You are just soooooooooooo lame man, you should really be slapped for liking an SRT.

 

your not much of a maxima enthuesist you should sell your maxima and buy a neon....if I were a modirator I would ban your as*

 

I like the 2 new cars from Dodge, the 2 Hemi cars. They look ****ing aggressive.

 

And there is a reason why Nissan can make a new variant of the VQ motor. It's called being on the 10 best engine list for 9 years in A ROW!!! Something DaimlarChrysler will never accomplish.

Oh and BTW the fit and finish in the Maxima is leap years ahead of the Neon. You ever stepped inside of an American car? Good god it all came from a recyling center!!! Chrysler is starting to turn around slowly with the interiors, but it will never be up to Japanese or German car standards!

If you want ugliness that goes and then go buy a SRT-4! But IMO why bother instead go get something that at least has a little bit of style and go pick up an Eclipse GSX. Same damn motor only AWD!!!

And there is a sign that shows that while Dodge started something with little cars and turbos!!! Others are quickly following! Chevy Cobalt SS. Mazdaspeed Miata. I am now just waiting for Nissan and a SR20DET motor in the Sentra SE-R!!! Me prays!

 

Would I buy a SRT-4? As of right now no I can't see my self driving one. That does'nt mean I going to HATE like the rest of you HATERS. You have every right to your opinions but when the facts become twisted I'm calling you a hater. There are'nt any $30K cars that can blow the doors off an SRT-4 let alone a $20K car. I like the imaginary Civic Si-T theory, if, if, if...if if was a fifth we'll all be...well you know. Next the age old "If we both had $20K I'd buy a Maxima and mod it to whoop a SRT-4" arguement. Which as unfair as you can get. First Noone is going out and buying a brand car straight cash, you have to figure in the monthly payments and that's still not fair. Spending money mod for mod an SRT-4 would DESTROY any Maxima. They already have one with 500hp and supposedly has stock bottom end LINK . I have seen with my own eyes that a SRT-4 with down pipe, intake, exhaust, boost controller, BOV, can do low 13s on street tires. My point is if it's not for you just say that but don't down everything about it because you simply don't like Neons, Dodge, or the way it looks. Oh yeah as far as the Civic Si-T theory, there is an RSX type S turbo and it beats modded SRT-4s all day but he has almost $10K into the car. Go figure.

 

Yeah, Maxima or WRX STi that is where we all get quiet. STi can't fit the clubs as easily in the trunk, yeah, that's it!!!