I've always wanted a GTI VR6, but know that I got my max I wanna know, anyone had any run-ins with these cars. I would think a 5-speed with Y-pipe against the 24v would be a good race.

I own both a Maxima & a VR-6 Jetta & there is no absolutly no contest. My Jetta is alot faster then my Maxima is. I have subtle mod's done to my Jetta (chip, intake, exhaust) & it is a mid 13sec naturally asperated car. My maxima is equipt with 35hp shot nitrous, HAI, Y-pipe w/ full 3" exhaust, DR mod & trans cooler for added protection to the transmission when the nitrous is in use. The fastest 1/4 mile time I've been able to get so far in the Maxima is in the high 13's & thats with the nitrous. Here are some pictures of my Jetta just incase you have any doubts. The VR-6 engine is no joke it makes excellent power for a small displacement V6 & aftermarket mod's do alot to increase it's performance.
http://www.dubtechnik.com/Markglry/page1.html

wow i like ur jetta man!

this is UTTER BULLSH**T . my cousin has a 2001 VR6 GLX 5speed and i have a 1999 MAXIMA SE 5speed. we have raced countless times when i was stock and mind you my car has twice the mileage of his car i would own him by 2-3 car lengths. since i have added my y pipe and intake its more like 4-5 car lengths. my car ran a 15.1 @ 93MPH at the drag strip. there no way a jetta with (chip inatke and exhaust) would/could be faster than a max with intake, y pipe and exhaust. i have been on VWVORTEX.com and i have seen the dyno's the most jetta can put to the wheels with that combo is 170 or so whp and the jetta weighs a good 150lbs more than an equally equipt 5 speed max.
i should also note i have never raced the 24 valve VR6 cars so i can't give a comparsion on that but as for the 12 valve 2.8's which is what my cousin 2001 GLX is equipt with don't waste your time or your gas. if your max is slower than your jetta and you have all that work done to your max i suggest you have your car checked out because its obviously not running right
i wanna see time slips for this mid 13's naturally asperated jetta.

pss if you would like to see the time slip for my 15.1 pass its in the 1/4 mile forums.

Click for fast VR6s.

However mind you, these are among the fastest in the nation. By no means a representation of the average VR6 Jetta!

-Cyrus

That list doesn't really impress me much, sorry. Out of all of those cars, there are only 2 street-only cars that are trapping over 102 MPH in the 1/4 mile, #6 and #4. Trap speed is a good indicator of HP being put to the ground and most of them are trapping in the 99-101 MPH range, which is what 4th gen 5-speeds with MEVI/JWT ECU, intake, and exhaust are trapping, WITHOUT any internal engine modifications.

that list means nothing ,such as what mods have been done to those cars, how much weight reduction. some may have nos or even FI. i says allmotor at the top then in the post says list the type of FI they are running. i have this debate regularly with my cousin and i will lay it out for you guys like i lay it out for him. they are quick cars, not fast and nothing special. they give alot of problems, they handle horrid, they are ugly and they are predominantly owned by girls and if you think this is a lie drive one, or next time your at the ligh look over into the jetta and ask that girl for her #.

I don't have to prove anything to you. I own both car's, I do all my own work including the paint & body & I am telling you your wrong. I have never snapped axles like a twig in the maxima, but I have twisted axles like licorice sticks many many times. I have never had any problems with my motor or transmission besides me being stupid & blowing apart my clutch. All I have to say is mod for mod my Jetta kills my maxima any day of the week. And that's without any nitrous installed on the Jetta. If I did put nitrous on the Jetta I would be running in the 12's very easily. I wouldn't even have to shift quickly, i could take my time & shift it smooth as silk & still be in the 12's. And I'll put money on it!!!!! If you feel brave bring your Maxima around & I'll put the smack down real quick & you can be on your way?

all i have to say is you better call VW and let them know they built one super jetta. because everyother jetta just happens to be slow .it is amazing that YOU can take a car that runs about 15.7 stock and with JUST intake,exhaust and a chip and make it run 13.5 you must be one HELL of a driver or your motor must be one HELL of a factor freak.i am not going to debate this with you anymore people in here aren't dumb they know better and unless you have a time slip that proves your car can run 13.5, your just going to be like every other jetta on the street. everytime i see a jetta on the road, VR6, 1.8T or just 2.0 one thing comes to mind LUNCH.

Who are you preaching to? Look at the first sentence of my post.

in reply to your smacking me down i can't i live in MA and its not worth driving CA to woop a jetta i can do that right here to my cousins silver GLX VR6. now seeing as you drive a jetta i am going to assume i am talking to a girl so if your willing to make it worth my while i will take a road trip and tool you up then. but until then my 15.1 time slip is in the 1/4 mile forums when can i see yours for your 13.5 super jetta.

All i have to say (once owning a VR6) is that dont look at the 1/4 mile. That tells nothing about what the car can really do. That car is shows its true power on the highway. Unless you own one, you will never understand. All VR's open up at around 80mph. Unfortunatly thats something the Max will never be able to do stock.

i wouldnt underestimate those vr6's. just so happens the other day i was out joy riding and i noticed this car was getting excited next to me so i punched it and so did they and i was so surprised how well it kept up with me. it was hangin pretty good, only about a car length behind me up until about 90 when i let off. then i let it pass and it was the jetta vr6 newer model style. but they are bum ugly anyway so who cares...

yeah OK what you said...

when i say OWN my cousin car(2001 JETTA GLX VR6 5SPEED) i mean in every single aspect of acceleration possible/ i even top out higher than he has i have personally seen 140MPH in my car( i think there was some more in her ) and i know he has never seen past 134MPH in his jeatta(going down hill by the way). secondly how does it make any sense that a car with 12 valves and .2 less liters of displacement not to metion a 150 more pounds be faster than a MAXIMA on the highway, what magical tricks do those 12 VALVES have that the 24 VALVES in the maxima can't accomplis?. whatever guys your right i am wrong

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I've ran a GTI VR6 (?), and he could not pull on me, Im auto with y, and intake.

is a (gsx?) (glx?) is the same as a vr6? I can beat a 6 cyl jetta 5-spd, its fairly close at low speeds but after 70 my maxima pulled hard.

if its a 1.8t that has those mods then i can belive you running 13's but a vr-6... i dunno.

and what i have to say is screw them. they are ugly, heavy, and slow.

my friend thinks his gti 1.8t is the bomb. he says that he beat gt stangs and all that stuff and he says he will spank me. he might cause i am a auto right now, but he will find out the true power of the vq35 in a 4th gen with a 6speed very soon.

in conclusion, i dont like vw or audi due to their weight and uglyness and bulkiness.

what does this fabled mid 13 second NA jetta weigh? I know a guy whos running HIGH 13s, i.e. 13.96 @ 99.6 in his GTI with just intake, chip and exhaust, thing is that his car weighs 2500lbs which would be ungodly light for a recent model jetta, or are you talking about one of the jettas from like the late 1980s with a swap?

after checking out the pics, i've realized the jetta was exactly the body style I was thinking, and I find it really really hard to believe that car is in the 13s. possibly on slicks, or if its stripped down to about 2600lbs, but short of that.... do you have a timeslip for it?

my buddy has a vr6 GTI and that thing can bearly make it out of 15's with a chip and exhaust. That and his trap speeds are low as hell.

N/A Jetta is not even close to an N/A Maxima.. that and you are comparing an Automatic with a 5spd.. that alone is beyond me.

ok, if you guys go to msn.com and look up the used autos sections it talks about all cars weights and everything.

1.zack342 has not look at the jetta's pictures bacause the car is from 97-98 (i belive)
2. the 97-98 jetta weights 2800lbs roughtly.
3.zack342 your friend has a 01 jetta, completely different car, weight, 01 jetta-> 3184lbs
that is almost 300 lbs less and 200lbs less then the maxima. (stock)
4. this tread has become something stupid, you guys should read before you post.
5. I don't know if nostrixoxide is telling the true, (maybe he is, maybe not) unfortunaly only a time slip can tell.

6. to answer the the treads main question, from what I can read here is, most VW with the VR6 aren't very fast, but if the VW is heavly modified then you will get a tought race.

gui

I have driven my friends 2001 GTI and it is quicker off the line and in mid range punch than my max. I was really impressed with the torque to be honest.

given that, with my y now, it would be about the same or my max slightly > GTI.

jmho

I know a guy that has a 4 door golf, (2.0 8valve) its running mid 10's. I think EPI sponsors him. Granted they dont look all that great and break down all the time but they pull really hard. The new ones are limited but when you chip them its a different story.
-Zack, Yea they have smaller motors with less valves but the thing is that the vr6 is closer to an in line 6. Its the only motor that has done it. Kinda like how there is only 1 rotary motor. The vr produces a hell of a lot of power and much more torque at a lower rpm.
The 95 VR i had would easily beat my Max (stock vs. stock) And yea they are both 5-speed's.
Eveyone can bash on the VR all they want but the fact of the matter is that they arent slow. With just a few mods, they will not only beat the Max but embarass the hell out of it in terms of handling. Dont get me wrong, i love the Max and always will but you have to give credit when its earned.

i have never had a problem with a vr6 before... NEVARRRRRRRRR