3 q's 'bout auto tranny slippage...
3 q's 'bout auto tranny slippage...
Do you guys know how much our auto tranny's can hold before it starts to slip?
I guess the condition of our clutch (inside the tranny) would determine the slippage, but assuming it's in reasonable condition, how much power do you it can take?
I doubt it, but will the source of the power also determine the factor?
I mean, a sc keeps building pressure. So does a turbo except it's a bit faster...
But, things like nitrous is instant power.... so...
I guess I'm wondering if a sudden surge of power, let's say 100 shot, is more likely to slip the clutch than something that adds power gradually, like a sc.
I'm thinking that this might be similar to our traction off the line issue...
Too much power when at a stop spins the wheels.
Comments?
ALSO,
regarding torque converters. Could the TC slip too? I mean, I know it does to some degree, but will it be a big enough factor?
Is a Level Ten type TC only recommended for high stall speeds (to get out of the hole faster) or does it serve a greater purpose in terms of slippage.
I've got more questions but Ill split the posts.
I guess the condition of our clutch (inside the tranny) would determine the slippage, but assuming it's in reasonable condition, how much power do you it can take?
I doubt it, but will the source of the power also determine the factor?
I mean, a sc keeps building pressure. So does a turbo except it's a bit faster...
But, things like nitrous is instant power.... so...
I guess I'm wondering if a sudden surge of power, let's say 100 shot, is more likely to slip the clutch than something that adds power gradually, like a sc.
I'm thinking that this might be similar to our traction off the line issue...
Too much power when at a stop spins the wheels.
Comments?
ALSO,
regarding torque converters. Could the TC slip too? I mean, I know it does to some degree, but will it be a big enough factor?
Is a Level Ten type TC only recommended for high stall speeds (to get out of the hole faster) or does it serve a greater purpose in terms of slippage.
I've got more questions but Ill split the posts.
if you throw down a 100 shot your going to be picking up the pieces of your tranny in no time.
this is unless you have jime's tranny which seems to be nearly indestructible despite his best efforts.
i second the tranny cooler, you should get one even if you stay stock.
an aftermarket TC will increase slippage which will in turn increase heat which will cook your tranny like a lobster.
our trannies are made out of paper mache so dont even dream about FI or NOS, unless you have the 1500+ for a tranny rebuild
this is unless you have jime's tranny which seems to be nearly indestructible despite his best efforts.
i second the tranny cooler, you should get one even if you stay stock.
an aftermarket TC will increase slippage which will in turn increase heat which will cook your tranny like a lobster.
our trannies are made out of paper mache so dont even dream about FI or NOS, unless you have the 1500+ for a tranny rebuild
301.4 whp, 314 ft/lbs on the dyno. Tranny is still the original with 102K on it. Car has made about 25 drag passes. Car was SC'd before the turbo, so it's been boosted for about 30K. Stock tranny with a custom LSD, Mobiletek VB, and a tranny cooler. Tranny doesn't slip at all, under full boost it still shifts hard. Hard enough to knock interior pieces loose once in a while. Fluid still looks good, not burnt.
There are quite a few auto Maximas with FI and nitrous. Tranny failures aren't the norm. I see more posts from people with N/A or stock Maximas and auto failures than from the boosted guys.
Maxima trannies are weak, but I still say that proper maintenance and common sense has more to do with longetivity than power level. We'll be upping the boost soon, and spraying, so I guess we'll see how far the Maxima tranny will go.
There are quite a few auto Maximas with FI and nitrous. Tranny failures aren't the norm. I see more posts from people with N/A or stock Maximas and auto failures than from the boosted guys.
Maxima trannies are weak, but I still say that proper maintenance and common sense has more to do with longetivity than power level. We'll be upping the boost soon, and spraying, so I guess we'll see how far the Maxima tranny will go.
Originally Posted by BadKarma99-4spd
if you throw down a 100 shot your going to be picking up the pieces of your tranny in no time.
this is unless you have jime's tranny which seems to be nearly indestructible despite his best efforts.
i second the tranny cooler, you should get one even if you stay stock.
an aftermarket TC will increase slippage which will in turn increase heat which will cook your tranny like a lobster.
our trannies are made out of paper mache so dont even dream about FI or NOS, unless you have the 1500+ for a tranny rebuild
this is unless you have jime's tranny which seems to be nearly indestructible despite his best efforts.
i second the tranny cooler, you should get one even if you stay stock.
an aftermarket TC will increase slippage which will in turn increase heat which will cook your tranny like a lobster.
our trannies are made out of paper mache so dont even dream about FI or NOS, unless you have the 1500+ for a tranny rebuild
Originally Posted by Shadow
301.4 whp, 314 ft/lbs on the dyno. Tranny is still the original with 102K on it. Car has made about 25 drag passes. Car was SC'd before the turbo, so it's been boosted for about 30K. Stock tranny with a custom LSD, Mobiletek VB, and a tranny cooler. Tranny doesn't slip at all, under full boost it still shifts hard. Hard enough to knock interior pieces loose once in a while. Fluid still looks good, not burnt.
There are quite a few auto Maximas with FI and nitrous. Tranny failures aren't the norm. I see more posts from people with N/A or stock Maximas and auto failures than from the boosted guys.
Maxima trannies are weak, but I still say that proper maintenance and common sense has more to do with longetivity than power level. We'll be upping the boost soon, and spraying, so I guess we'll see how far the Maxima tranny will go.
There are quite a few auto Maximas with FI and nitrous. Tranny failures aren't the norm. I see more posts from people with N/A or stock Maximas and auto failures than from the boosted guys.
Maxima trannies are weak, but I still say that proper maintenance and common sense has more to do with longetivity than power level. We'll be upping the boost soon, and spraying, so I guess we'll see how far the Maxima tranny will go.
and thats fine, i suppose there are quite a few that i dont know about, but from my perspective i dont have 1500 to gamble with on my daily driver.
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