I'd say the driver. It's all about the driver.

 

Kenji,
What makes you so sure your car is not OBDII? What does it say on the label on the underside of the hood? Can you pull codes and get codes like the rest of us do?

OBDII was mandated for all MY1996 but many cars saw OBDII in MY1995. Unlike later 4th gens, our port is located under the dash on the passenger side.

 

That sage mist color is hawt.....

 

it doesn't take much to drive an auto, lol

U can still pull codes out of obd I but there is an OBD II plug in every 4th gen, just in 95s and I think 96s they are under glow box, intead in fuse box

In the fuse box there is a consult (service) plug for the dealership computer.

And WTF are you wearing?

 

Check Nissan Tech Service Bulliten Number NTB94-051 dated May 9, 1994 concerning the 1995 Maxima. All are OBDII compliant. My OBDII connnector is on top of the ECM on the passenger side of the car. The dealers told me I couldn't get data our of that connector but I did with a $107 (shipping and tax included) ISO scantool from ScanTools.net.

 

Kenji, I will gladly take you up on your opportunity to call you dumb. Kenji, your dumb. Don't believe everything your told. Yes, all the morons at places like Autozone look in their dumb@ss computer that tells them that 95 Maxima's are not OBD-II. Well, I call BS. Here is how it works. OBD-II was federally mandating to be the primary operating system in vehicles in 96. But smart companies, like Nissan saw it coming and decided to use it as an opportunity to get ahead of the group. In 95 Nissan used OBD-II systems in all Maxima's. Other companies began switching over in 94 but very few.

Now, this is the point at which I prove you wrong. OBD-II vehicles are supposed to have the plug easily accessible on the drivers side. This is why many people are thrown off. This location wasn't standardized until it was federally mandated and therefore Nissan decided to put in an out of the way location that isn't abused by the drivers feet as he/she gets in or out. Nissan decided to place the plug on passenger side behind that black panel covering the ECU. So do me a favor. Go out to your car right now, digi in hand, remove the black panel and take a picture. That is the only way that I will retract my statement that you are a dumbass. If you still don't believe that your vehicle is OBD-II I have some more information that might help. My Maxima was originally ordered from the factory by my dad as a b-day present for my mom. It was the first 95 on the lot. The manufacter date is 6/94. ECU date is 3/94. Now if you have a Max that is older than mine I'll give you a cookie. So, while your out looking in the passenger footwell have a look on the drivers door and inspect the orange sticker. Reed 'em and weep man. Believe me. I have had dozens of people that should be knowledgeable about these things tell me that my car wasn't OBD-II. The guys at a local dyno said it wasn't. Now, that I've informed you and the twenty other mis-informed people on this thread I leave you several pictures to clense your pallat.

 

If the 95 is the fastet year with a 15.1@92, then there must be something fishy.


Tons of ppl have ran faster stock, and there are too many variables to fathom. You people mag race too much.

But to go wth your mag stats: there was a 97 or so that ran 14.9.

 

BS, 1995s are not OBD-II

 

Please do not look down on me personnally for these numbers. I am simply suppling this information from my very large collection of road & track magazines.
These numbers are for 4th gen maxima's by year.

1995 & 1996 4th gen maxima (nov. 95 & aug. 96) isuues
0 - 60 1/4mile
7.4 15.7

1997 & 1998 4th gen maxima (July 97 & April 98) issues
0 - 60 1/4mile
7.1 15.7

In the June issue of Road & Track there are improved numbers for the 1998 year Nissan Maxima.
0 - 60 1/4mile
7.1 15.5

Keep in mind these are all numbers provided by Road & Track. You can debate them, but don't do it with me. I am not responsible for performing the test that generated these numbers.

In addition I would like to point out the numbers that the 1998 model produced in the June issue were exactly 1.1seconds slower then the 1996 300ZXTT (300hp) stock

1996 Nissan 300ZXTT (Road & Track Feburary 96 issue)
0 - 60 1/4mile
6.1 14.4

 

But on the builtvqmotors.com site it says that they are ....???? I'm so confused.

 

then whats up with jwt saying they can only reprogram 95-96 ecu cause its obd1. They've been ripping us off???

 

No, they are wrong calling it OBDI.

 

It think he was being sarcastic. I have no idea why though...

 

I'm aware the adapter is on the passengers side. I have had CEL's before and was unable to pull codes with an OBDII scanner.

http://www.obdii.com/connector.html

I have always pulled codes manually.

 

I never said 1995's weren't. I said mine wasn't. If mine IS then it isn't working, because I've never been able to pull codes off of it.

 

Broaner that program for the PalmOS to get a ECU read out, where can I get that.

 

Those are AUTO numbers not 5spd. They're still wrong though. How can a car with wheels that weight 3lbs less at each corner be slower when nothing else changed?

 

Agreed. There is a difference in the way the ecu was coded, or the type of chip used that is the reason JWT can program 95-96's and not 97 and later ecus.

 

The 190/205 rating is correct for 4th gen's, but to avoid the import luxary tax (based on HP), Nissan underated it on purpose.

Best friend used to work at Nissan from 95-98. It was a well known fact and inside joke that the horsepower figures are not representing the performance you get from the Max. His impression that at the flywheel it was probably producing 215HP and 190 at the wheels.

 

I think he's bored. I was being sarcastic, too, btw.

 

Different car, different track, different driver, different day, different weather, different gas, different mileage.....

I could go on.

 

Please provide a link to this HP-based luxury tax.

Also, please find me a dyno plot of ANY stock 4th gen maxima making anywhere near 190hp at the wheels.

I'll wait here. Thanks.

 

Just looked in the 95 FSM and it seems all the 95 ARE OBDII. If they weren't they would mention something about only certain models being OBDI as they always tell if somehing is different from car to car. It shows where the connector is, OBDII, and everything.

 

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LOL this thread has alot of misinformation in it. Here are some thing's I'll point out that are wrong:

1) The fastest non VI 4th gen is not either of those listed, It's rudy who ran 14.05 back like 2 years ago... his name on the .org is VQdriver he drives a 97 GXE

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=153434

2) The fastest confirmed stock 4th gen on this site ran 14.71 that was VeeTec in a 97 SE.

3) Just because VeeTec ran his time in a 97 doesn't mean they are any faster than any other year 4th gen. It just means he's a badass driver. If his car had been a95 or 98 model he would have put up the same sort of impressive times. This notion that a certain year has an extra .739465 hp and weighs .056532lb less than any other year and thus is the "fastest" year is just stupid.

4) A properly driven 2002-2003 6spd will hammer a properly driven 95-99 5spd hands down. Don't trust magazine numbers.

5) The notion that any 4th gen will put down 190hp to the wheels is retarded. No, the 190/205 rating is right on the money, stock 5spd 4th gens put down about 160whp and 175ft lb of torque, give or take 2 or 3.

 

No way d00d!

Everyone knows that 95 Maximas are the fastest Nissans ever produced!

HAHA, you got

 

mzmtg 2 good points in a row. As far as viewing this site most people have stated dyno results placed them in 145 - 165 HP range at the wheels stock.

 

I have a 1995 Maxima GXE, its the base model, no power trunk, no power seats, Non BOSE, No Heated mirrors, no spoiler, and stock 15 inch wheels with hub caps, basically nothing . I know it wieghs less than the 1995-1996 Maxima SE, GLE, and 1997 to 1999 maxima GXE, GLE, SE. So i think with i have the fastest 4 th gen maxima running in the totally stock class. I am not sure i think my car weigh under 3000 pounds.

 

Until you post some timeslips, that's a worthless claim.

 

One more thing on the ODB II my car was made in 04/95 and is equiped with the ODB II

 

Wow too bad its not illegal to be stupid cuz alot of people on this thread would've been in an institution a long time ago... the misinformation here is crazy!

First off, dont ever rely on Magazine times... why? because these people have no experience with the cars to drive the car at its full potential

Second, theres no way in hell stock to stock a 5 speed 4th gen will ever be faster than a stock 5.5 gen auto... Look at Maxima Polak for example, he ran a 14.7 in an auto... with just an intake. As Nealoc pointed out the fastest KNOWN 4th Gen ran a 14.7 and he was one hell of a driver. mzmtg already pointed out theres a 5.5 gen auto running 14.3's...

A 95 is just barely lighter than any other year... the differences being very minimal. A rule of thumb is for every 100lbs you shave, you shave .1 off your 1/4 time.

So lets say per say a 95 *IS* 100lbs lighter which its not... its only theoretically .1 faster...

 

well i dont care what anyone says about my 1995 Maxima. I think its slow.

 

You're right.

It is. So is mine.

 

dont alloy wheels weight less than steel wheels? I just keep hearing one of the reasons a GXE is lighter is because of its wheels, which i dont understand.

 

No, the steelies weigh more than alloys. But the smaller diameter offsets the higher weight.

 

PEOPLE what are you still going on about? Yes a base model GXE will be lighter than other models, so what? Steel wheels weigh more, point? C'mon its been proven that all 4th gens are about the same in the 1/4. Get over it. There are too many variables to count jeez.

 

I think this topic is much better than the 'which turn signals look better?', 'what color led's should i use?' , and 'how do i loosen a screw?' topics.

 

What about the 95 vs. 2002 from a 35 MPH punch?

The reason I am asking about the 95 is because I'm seriously considering buying one. I just want to compare how it feels to my dads 2002. I'm 17 and a senior in high school and everyone I talk to about getting a Maxima says they are slow (I know they are not) 4 door grandma cars. I guess that's why I like Maximas so much because of the sleeper look.

Anyway thanks to everyone for commenting.

 

they are right, it is pretty slow.

 

At 35mph the 2002 still has at least 65 more horsepower. You do the math.