Why is 1995 so fast?
09-01-2004, 03:31 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by killcrap
they are right, it is pretty slow.
they are right, it is pretty slow.
09-01-2004, 04:25 PM
#83
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Originally Posted by Maxima lover
mzmtg, have you driven the auto 5.5 gen Maxima?
EDIT: The more I think about your worries of "beating all the other kids at school" the more I laugh.... you've got a better chance of having the "coolest" car at school if you fix up a Max. Nevertheless, your goals are hilarious.
09-01-2004, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxNismo1
I've driven dozens upon dozens of them. They will shred a stock 4th gen (and most modded 4th gens as well) in any form - SE, GXE, auto, manual, whatever. And the farther up the speedometer you go, the more noticeable the power increase. Just like almost every other 6 cylinder sedan on the market, the newer it is, the more power it will have.
I've driven dozens upon dozens of them. They will shred a stock 4th gen (and most modded 4th gens as well) in any form - SE, GXE, auto, manual, whatever. And the farther up the speedometer you go, the more noticeable the power increase. Just like almost every other 6 cylinder sedan on the market, the newer it is, the more power it will have.
Also MaxNismo, how fast would you estimate the 1/4 mile and 0-60 time is for a 2002 SE auto and a 1995 SE 5 speed?
09-01-2004, 04:36 PM
#86
Originally Posted by Maxima lover
Also MaxNismo, how fast would you estimate the 1/4 mile and 0-60 time is for a 2002 SE auto and a 1995 SE 5 speed?
09-01-2004, 04:37 PM
#87
Originally Posted by Maxima lover
mzmtg, have you driven the auto 5.5 gen Maxima?
Anyway, in the grand scheme of things, Maximas are slow. There is nothing impressive about a mid-to-low-15 second family car.
09-01-2004, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima lover
MaxNismo where have you gotten to drive "dozens upon dozens" of the 2002-2003? I'm not doubting you I would just like to know where you drove all of these.
Also MaxNismo, how fast would you estimate the 1/4 mile and 0-60 time is for a 2002 SE auto and a 1995 SE 5 speed?
Also MaxNismo, how fast would you estimate the 1/4 mile and 0-60 time is for a 2002 SE auto and a 1995 SE 5 speed?
I've spent my five years in college as a valet - and I actually have space to really DRIVE them and not just move them 40 feet. Here in Cincinnati, Avis rents them (and they rent a LOT of them - but most were auto SEs). Considering I valet at a hotel I see more than my fair share of rentals. I've driven everything from Geo Metros to a few Bentley Azures. Unfortunately, it seems my local Avis agency has chosen the new Chrysler 300 over the 04 Maxima for their standard "full size luxury," so I haven't had as much seat time in the new ones.
As for the numbers, I couldn't say. Maybe around 6.8sec to 60mph and about 15.2sec in the 1/4 for fourth gens ... sooooo, shave about .5sec off for the 2002? Am I in the neighborhood? But over time I've just compared how my 98 SE feels to the newer models. They pull a lot harder from cruising speeds, especially in the 50-90 mph range. But from a start, traction is definitely a much bigger problem than in our 4th gens.
09-01-2004, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
0-60 means ****, 1/4 mile is where all your info is at. And that has already been explained in this thread.
0-60 means ****, 1/4 mile is where all your info is at. And that has already been explained in this thread.
09-01-2004, 05:18 PM
#91
Originally Posted by Maxima lover
0-60 means more to me then the 1/4 mile anyway because I would race mostly on the street and I normally woundn,t get up to over 90MPH in a street race.
09-01-2004, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
Yes. Also, the 14.3 timeslip I posted is from a personal friend of mine. He and I have gone against each other plenty of times on the street. I get shredded every single time.
Anyway, in the grand scheme of things, Maximas are slow. There is nothing impressive about a mid-to-low-15 second family car.
Yes. Also, the 14.3 timeslip I posted is from a personal friend of mine. He and I have gone against each other plenty of times on the street. I get shredded every single time.
Anyway, in the grand scheme of things, Maximas are slow. There is nothing impressive about a mid-to-low-15 second family car.
09-01-2004, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
14.7 auto 5.5 is still faster than a 4th gen, even a 5 speed, atleast for 99% of drivers
14.7 auto 5.5 is still faster than a 4th gen, even a 5 speed, atleast for 99% of drivers
09-02-2004, 05:06 AM
#97
Originally Posted by Maxima lover
I went to your friends site and he said he ran 14.7’s before mods so that is pretty different compared to the 14.3 he runs now. He also has smaller wheels then the SE, which could make a difference.
09-02-2004, 05:07 AM
#98
Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
well i will admit i stand corrected on the OBD battle......i am jsut wondering it nissan could half switched halfway through the year and made late 95s OBD II just wonderin
09-02-2004, 10:46 AM
#99
MaximaSE96, did you not read my previous post? I clearly stated that my ECU was produced in 3/94. I also stated that it was the first on the lot at a local dealership. I'd say my max is an early 95. It would be rediculously uneconomical and frustrating for service techs to have to figure out which type of system the car was when it came in with a problem. That would mean there would need to be a different set of steps in the FSM for everything related to the ECU.
09-03-2004, 10:01 PM
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I guess I'm just disappointed because i thought after reading quite a few posts about the 1995 SE I thought it was fairly quick. What mods would i have to do to make the 1995 SE 5 speed as fast as the stock 2002 SE auto? Assuming it runs 14.7 seconds in the 1/4 mile.
09-04-2004, 08:10 AM
#101
Originally Posted by Maxima lover
I guess I'm just disappointed because i thought after reading quite a few posts about the 1995 SE I thought it was fairly quick. What mods would i have to do to make the 1995 SE 5 speed as fast as the stock 2002 SE auto? Assuming it runs 14.7 seconds in the 1/4 mile.
Learn to drive.
09-04-2004, 10:25 AM
#102
maxima lover, if you are as good as a 14.7 stock maxima driver in a 1/4 mile,
just get intake, headers, ypipe and cat back exhaust, and maybe you'll be running low 14's.
get a maxima, good cars, and not as slow as people say they are.
but yes slow compared to the cars that are coming out these days.
dont rely on what other people say if they are fast or not.
you just have to do it yourself.
just get intake, headers, ypipe and cat back exhaust, and maybe you'll be running low 14's.
get a maxima, good cars, and not as slow as people say they are.
but yes slow compared to the cars that are coming out these days.
dont rely on what other people say if they are fast or not.
you just have to do it yourself.
09-04-2004, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
I have personally witnessed a 2k2 GLE (automatic, duh) run 14.3 with half a tank of gas, intkae and cat back. You'll never see a 4th gen with similar mods come anywhere near that.
1995s are NOT faster in general, everyone needs to get this BS out of their heads.
Originally Posted by mzmtg
Several people have run in the 14.7 - 14.8 range with totally stock 4th Gen 5-speeds.
Learn to drive.
I have personally witnessed a 2k2 GLE (automatic, duh) run 14.3 with half a tank of gas, intkae and cat back. You'll never see a 4th gen with similar mods come anywhere near that.
1995s are NOT faster in general, everyone needs to get this BS out of their heads.
Originally Posted by mzmtg
Several people have run in the 14.7 - 14.8 range with totally stock 4th Gen 5-speeds.
Learn to drive.
Doesn't make any sense.
I don't even have a 1995 Maxima yet. As i said in a pervious post i am considering getting one.
09-05-2004, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by broaner22
Kenji, I will gladly take you up on your opportunity to call you dumb. Kenji, your dumb. Don't believe everything your told. Yes, all the morons at places like Autozone look in their dumb@ss computer that tells them that 95 Maxima's are not OBD-II. Well, I call BS. Here is how it works. OBD-II was federally mandating to be the primary operating system in vehicles in 96. But smart companies, like Nissan saw it coming and decided to use it as an opportunity to get ahead of the group. In 95 Nissan used OBD-II systems in all Maxima's. Other companies began switching over in 94 but very few.
Now, this is the point at which I prove you wrong. OBD-II vehicles are supposed to have the plug easily accessible on the drivers side. This is why many people are thrown off. This location wasn't standardized until it was federally mandated and therefore Nissan decided to put in an out of the way location that isn't abused by the drivers feet as he/she gets in or out. Nissan decided to place the plug on passenger side behind that black panel covering the ECU. So do me a favor. Go out to your car right now, digi in hand, remove the black panel and take a picture. That is the only way that I will retract my statement that you are a dumbass. If you still don't believe that your vehicle is OBD-II I have some more information that might help. My Maxima was originally ordered from the factory by my dad as a b-day present for my mom. It was the first 95 on the lot. The manufacter date is 6/94. ECU date is 3/94. Now if you have a Max that is older than mine I'll give you a cookie. So, while your out looking in the passenger footwell have a look on the drivers door and inspect the orange sticker. Reed 'em and weep man. Believe me. I have had dozens of people that should be knowledgeable about these things tell me that my car wasn't OBD-II. The guys at a local dyno said it wasn't. Now, that I've informed you and the twenty other mis-informed people on this thread I leave you several pictures to clense your pallat.
Now, this is the point at which I prove you wrong. OBD-II vehicles are supposed to have the plug easily accessible on the drivers side. This is why many people are thrown off. This location wasn't standardized until it was federally mandated and therefore Nissan decided to put in an out of the way location that isn't abused by the drivers feet as he/she gets in or out. Nissan decided to place the plug on passenger side behind that black panel covering the ECU. So do me a favor. Go out to your car right now, digi in hand, remove the black panel and take a picture. That is the only way that I will retract my statement that you are a dumbass. If you still don't believe that your vehicle is OBD-II I have some more information that might help. My Maxima was originally ordered from the factory by my dad as a b-day present for my mom. It was the first 95 on the lot. The manufacter date is 6/94. ECU date is 3/94. Now if you have a Max that is older than mine I'll give you a cookie. So, while your out looking in the passenger footwell have a look on the drivers door and inspect the orange sticker. Reed 'em and weep man. Believe me. I have had dozens of people that should be knowledgeable about these things tell me that my car wasn't OBD-II. The guys at a local dyno said it wasn't. Now, that I've informed you and the twenty other mis-informed people on this thread I leave you several pictures to clense your pallat.
09-06-2004, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima lover
There has also been some stock 4th gen's to run 14.7 too. This guy may be a very good driver. Does anyone else have slips from a stock 5.5 gen SE auto or know where I can find some?
Incidentally, I have a little knowledge of 5.5 gens. I did (not sure if I still do) hold the record for fastest absolute stock 6spd (14.23@99mph). Factory freak....maybe. There were numerous .org witnesses on that day. VeeTec, 96sleeper (Matt....the guy that did the auto to 5spd swap), and a couple of other 4th gens that dont post here anymore I think.
I really have no input on the whole OBDII debate....have never owned a 4th gen. In fact I have a 2001 BMW 540i M-Sport 6spd with Dinan intake, chip, and Remus exhaust that will put a severe hurting on most any n/a 4th gen out there (ran a 13.89 at the track). I just like to check in time to time.
Oh, one last thing, this is my new screen name. I changed it a while back because of some personal issues here on the board with someone.
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