Chirping tires
09-04-2004, 10:13 AM
#1
Chirping tires
Can our maxima's chirp 2nd and 3rd gear? I have a 1998 5spd and i;ve been trying to do it up to redline in both gears. I can't get it to chirp. Should i just let the clutch go more abrubtly or is it just 4 gens cant do it?
09-04-2004, 10:37 AM
#2
Why the h#ll do you want to chirp the tires?
You know, thats bad for the tranny right?
The maxima tranny isnt very strong to begin with and your trying to end yours prematurely.
If you really want, and need to chirp the tires buy an aftermarket clutch and it will grab more then enough to chirp the tires.
You know, thats bad for the tranny right?
The maxima tranny isnt very strong to begin with and your trying to end yours prematurely.
If you really want, and need to chirp the tires buy an aftermarket clutch and it will grab more then enough to chirp the tires.
09-04-2004, 10:48 AM
#4
i used to chirp wit my stock clutch with my old tranny by accident all the time. if i want i can roll at 5mph and then just peel out until 2nd and also some spin in 2nd. i chirp 3rd once shifting around a bend going up hill but that was mostly a fluke. save ur clutch n tires and dont do it though
09-04-2004, 01:01 PM
#5
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if you want to chirp higher gears get a rwd car with lots of horsepower ... it wont blow up your tranny as quickly 
my best friends project car I've helped work on for 4 years now ('79 camaro with a 350 done up pushing between 400-450hp) with soft 315's in the rear and 4.10 posi can spin the tires through the end of third gear for ****s in giggles.
the problem with this is that even though the tires are spinning they're so big and so soft that they still get a massive amount of traction, and we actually blew up two turbo 350's (the tail end of the tranny where the yoke attached to the driveshaft blew out) before we changed over to a b/w 5speed from an iroc .. which shortly after had its gears stripped, and currently has a muncie 4 speed (stone crusher.) funny thing happened when we did this because we went to get the drive shaft sized to fit with the new tranny only to learn that it had been twisted (looked like a macaroni noodle when put on a lathe) whoops!
if you enjoy peeling out/chirping tires, you need a toy car like this. because its easy to work on, easy to get massive amounts of horsepower, not very expensive since it's all simple old technology, and its ****ing fast/loud/blast to drive. we took a new z06 from a standstill for awhile until reaching higher speeds... (damn 4 speed needs more top end!)
my best friends project car I've helped work on for 4 years now ('79 camaro with a 350 done up pushing between 400-450hp) with soft 315's in the rear and 4.10 posi can spin the tires through the end of third gear for ****s in giggles.
the problem with this is that even though the tires are spinning they're so big and so soft that they still get a massive amount of traction, and we actually blew up two turbo 350's (the tail end of the tranny where the yoke attached to the driveshaft blew out) before we changed over to a b/w 5speed from an iroc .. which shortly after had its gears stripped, and currently has a muncie 4 speed (stone crusher.) funny thing happened when we did this because we went to get the drive shaft sized to fit with the new tranny only to learn that it had been twisted (looked like a macaroni noodle when put on a lathe) whoops!
if you enjoy peeling out/chirping tires, you need a toy car like this. because its easy to work on, easy to get massive amounts of horsepower, not very expensive since it's all simple old technology, and its ****ing fast/loud/blast to drive. we took a new z06 from a standstill for awhile until reaching higher speeds... (damn 4 speed needs more top end!)
09-04-2004, 02:13 PM
#6
yeah i have the same problem with my car. its not like i want to beat up on it, it would just be nice to hear that chirp everyonce in awhile. i think my problem is that im not aggressive enough on my clutch during the shifts, oh well my clutch is gonna go soon anyways so ill hafta wait till i get a new one to try it out again.
09-04-2004, 09:22 PM
#9
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You will mess up the tranny and destroy whats left of your clutch/flywheel. If you cant or dont know how to do it then dont. Its not smart anyway.
I used to do dumb things like this in my old VR6 but soon realized just how expensive a tranny and install can get.
I say just be happy that you have an amazing car and treat her well. If racing is your thing then just hook her up. Just drive saftley and i know its really hard but try to keep the racing on a drag strip. Just my $.02
I used to do dumb things like this in my old VR6 but soon realized just how expensive a tranny and install can get.
I say just be happy that you have an amazing car and treat her well. If racing is your thing then just hook her up. Just drive saftley and i know its really hard but try to keep the racing on a drag strip. Just my $.02
09-04-2004, 11:18 PM
#11
do you enjoy replacing clutches?
If you really want to, buy a fidanza/act/exedy lol. but loosing traction =/ helpful in anyway.
oh well, in 2-3 years you'll regret beating the crap out of your max.
If you really want to, buy a fidanza/act/exedy lol. but loosing traction =/ helpful in anyway.
oh well, in 2-3 years you'll regret beating the crap out of your max.
09-05-2004, 05:33 AM
#12
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I find it hard to believe that some of the above posts with 5 speeds have difficulty chirping going into 2nd, if you take it near redline in 1st it can be done with minimal effort. It also has alot to do with tire size and compound.
09-05-2004, 06:44 AM
#13
You can, but if you have good gripping tires and a stock clutch it may be impossible.
If you had some POS tires like Falken Ziek 502's (which are complete garbage) and some 15's with a ACT or something, then yes, it will chirp in 2nd, because you are losing traction. Be glad you have traction.
If you have upgraded tires it may not be possible.
When my SE-R was bone stock with like 124 WHP and 14's I used to chirp 2nd all the time. Never broke a tranny.
On my NX, with the Ziek and a strong clutch, I used to chirp 3rd too. I have it on tape if you wanna watch it.
With my 16's I can do it, but like the others said, it is kinda rough on the drivetrain. And these Khumos kinda stick hard, so I get a bit of wheel hop, even though I have complete Energy Suspension everything. Not a rubber bushing/mount in my car.
If you had some POS tires like Falken Ziek 502's (which are complete garbage) and some 15's with a ACT or something, then yes, it will chirp in 2nd, because you are losing traction. Be glad you have traction.
If you have upgraded tires it may not be possible.
When my SE-R was bone stock with like 124 WHP and 14's I used to chirp 2nd all the time. Never broke a tranny.
On my NX, with the Ziek and a strong clutch, I used to chirp 3rd too. I have it on tape if you wanna watch it.
With my 16's I can do it, but like the others said, it is kinda rough on the drivetrain. And these Khumos kinda stick hard, so I get a bit of wheel hop, even though I have complete Energy Suspension everything. Not a rubber bushing/mount in my car.
09-05-2004, 06:47 AM
#14
Originally Posted by MrGone
do you enjoy replacing clutches?
If you really want to, buy a fidanza/act/exedy lol. but loosing traction =/ helpful in anyway.
oh well, in 2-3 years you'll regret beating the crap out of your max.
If you really want to, buy a fidanza/act/exedy lol. but loosing traction =/ helpful in anyway.
oh well, in 2-3 years you'll regret beating the crap out of your max.
09-05-2004, 08:20 AM
#15
i chirp all the time in my automatic.
and i got a bad ks and crappy motor mounts...
why you can't chirp in your 5 spd is beyond me...
i want new poly motor mounts now!!! mm are very important...and so is me chirping in an auto!
and i got a bad ks and crappy motor mounts...
why you can't chirp in your 5 spd is beyond me...
i want new poly motor mounts now!!! mm are very important...and so is me chirping in an auto!
09-05-2004, 01:59 PM
#19
Thanks for most of the replies. I'm not trying to be cool by chirping the freakin tires! I'm just wondering if my Max is making the power it is suppose to to be able to chirp the cheapo tires i have. IF THE MAXIMA TRANNY IS THAT CRAPPY I WANT TO SELL MY ****! I dont believe chirping is gonna **** up the tranny. I had a civic hatchback with 160K bone stock and it would chirp 2nd gear when i wanted to all the time and i had no probelms . FYI i'm not a newbie driver. I've been driving manuals since i got my first car and i believe i know how to work with them good enough.
09-05-2004, 02:01 PM
#20
Originally Posted by Taken2DaMax
This is just too too dangerous for the car if your trying to do this over and over again. Just not smart.
If the maxima's tranny gets damaged because of chirping the tires i'de say it's a POS!
09-05-2004, 02:04 PM
#21
Originally Posted by nostrixoxide
If you can't chirp the tires in a manuel equipted maxima 
I suggest you just forget about doing it 
and focus more just being a safe driver 
Atleast for a few more years until you can figure it out 
I suggest you just forget about doing it and focus more just being a safe driver Atleast for a few more years until you can figure it out How is it unsafe to chirp the tires? There's nothing to figure out besides why the maxima aint making the power it should.
09-05-2004, 02:10 PM
#23
Thats because 1.6L civic probably has cheap tires or tires with smaller contact patch. Stop trying.. I've taken out many cars who chirped 2nd on me. Big deal, they still ended up sucking my exhaust. As stated before, chriping means loss of traction. Why would you want to lose traction?
Originally Posted by p00tan6
I know that, but it's kinda embarassing when a 1.6L civic can do it buy my 3.0L cant.
09-05-2004, 03:04 PM
#25
Originally Posted by ZuMBLe
Thats because 1.6L civic probably has cheap tires or tires with smaller contact patch. Stop trying.. I've taken out many cars who chirped 2nd on me. Big deal, they still ended up sucking my exhaust. As stated before, chriping means loss of traction. Why would you want to lose traction?
No, my old civic had 205's tires that are alot wider and stickier than my H rated 205's on my maxima. Yes, when you chirp you lose a little traction but its negligible. It is not like i am spinning the tires. I just like the feeling that my car has enough power on tap to chirp the cheap *** khumos i have. My question is can your car chirp 2nd gear?
09-05-2004, 05:41 PM
#26
p00tan6
You are an idiot if you honestly think it i not bad on the tranny. Chirping the tires puts a lot of stress on it which is was not iniatly deigned for.
Theres also other factors as to why you may not be able to chirp the tires.
Did you ever consider that maybe your clutch is slipping and not grabbing the way it should?
Also, when you say your "civic" chirped tires all the time did it have actual alloy wheels or steelies?
A heavier wheel will also eliminate the chirping.
Tires will play a factor as well, the amount of tread you have or the composites of the rubber in different tires.
If you really want to deterimine if your max is making the power it should be, DYNO it!
Chirping tires does not determine HP.
You may not be a newbie stick driver, but you sound like it.
also, how is one 205 wider then another???
You are an idiot if you honestly think it i not bad on the tranny. Chirping the tires puts a lot of stress on it which is was not iniatly deigned for.
Theres also other factors as to why you may not be able to chirp the tires.
Did you ever consider that maybe your clutch is slipping and not grabbing the way it should?
Also, when you say your "civic" chirped tires all the time did it have actual alloy wheels or steelies?
A heavier wheel will also eliminate the chirping.
Tires will play a factor as well, the amount of tread you have or the composites of the rubber in different tires.
If you really want to deterimine if your max is making the power it should be, DYNO it!
Chirping tires does not determine HP.
You may not be a newbie stick driver, but you sound like it.
also, how is one 205 wider then another???
09-05-2004, 08:15 PM
#27
I have an auto, I used to be able to chirp 1-2 with the Eagle RSAs and the Yokohama AVID v4s in 215/55R16. But now I run Dunlop SP5000s in 225/55R16. I can't chirp anymore but I don't strive to do so. Don't worry about it. I'm sure your car has enough power. I guess it's kinda like striving to be able to drink the most and strongest alcohol. You really only end up being a drunk with liver damage. Nothing good can come out of it.
If you really wanna chirp the tires, get more power. =P
If you really wanna chirp the tires, get more power. =P
Originally Posted by p00tan6
No, my old civic had 205's tires that are alot wider and stickier than my H rated 205's on my maxima. Yes, when you chirp you lose a little traction but its negligible. It is not like i am spinning the tires. I just like the feeling that my car has enough power on tap to chirp the cheap *** khumos i have. My question is can your car chirp 2nd gear?
09-05-2004, 08:32 PM
#29
the max auto tranny is durable enough...i got 150k on mine with a aftermarket valve body throw in around 120k...i have 0 problems. chirping tire doesn't put that much stress on anything. compaired to rollbacks and n drops it's NOTHING. if you buy big ol aftermarket 18's it's harder to chrip...
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