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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Performance help please

Ok guys, im deciding to go faster, im tried of beating civics in my school and them lying about it and saying no way his maxima is running a 14.3 and they think it weighs 4,100 and that a stock maxima runs 16.5... Well enough is enough, lets get to business, I want headers baby and a CAI. I have a stillen intake with a stillen y-pipe with a performace cat. and a gready Full catback. now im a 95 5-speed with 101,000 miles. My car is fast but shes missing some power if you know what i mean. Ok so the word around when everyone see's maxi is your intake setup is killing you, get a CAI, now im asking where can i get one without cutting a damn hole in the frame of my car, i know they make cai without the need of cutting the frame. And headers where can i get just headers that are good and wont sound like rice burning when i do hit the gas, i want a nice deep sound not a ****ty sound. Can someone please provide me some valuable information to help this orger out. My money limit is $700 bucks. Im sure that will help.

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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the Injen CAI is what you need.
Headers don't give you much more power, dont provide any noticeable gains, what you could look into is an UDP, or maybe a tuneup.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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if you want a cai and don't want to cut the fender then injen is the only way to go... as far as headers i'd reccomend selling your y and go ahead and get the cattman headers...but you gotta save up more first.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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thanks for the intake thats the one im looking for can you provide me a link to where i can get that intake? And headers Im a broke 18 year old I know they sell just headers i dont need the y-pipe since i have the stillen one, its only 2 years old.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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ok my next questions is can i just buy cattman headers ONLY without the y-pipe and will this have ant fitment issuse?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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bump anyone know if i can contact them and just get the headers only
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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headers and y pipe is a package and u cant use your existing y ypipe since the bends in the headers are diff. than stock
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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ahh k thanks is there a Group deal on these headers because i would like to buy them but for a bit cheaper.. And also are they worth it and i mean really worth it.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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couldn't he get the injen knock off of ebay, use that piping and put his stillen cone filter on the end of it...it would save him alot of money
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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ok - first of all the difference between replacing your current intake w/ a CAI and getting new headers will prob not give you the power your looking for to really put those civics in their place. there really arent any headers that will do much better than the stock ones - which are pretty good - that will be worth the money. IMO (first save more money) and if you really want more power, upgrade your ECU and/or save for some kind of boost.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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i say get the y pipe, dyno i seen shows very similar gains for y pipe headers/y pipe within like 5whp and teh price $700+ or $170 hmmmm spend the extra on the ecu and you would have even more gains plus its a easier install
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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man who cares about civics they are like lil geo metro to us
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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dude.. you have a 95 5spd.. GET A MEVI!

and.. how are you only running low 14's with that set up? damn...
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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You've been on the org this long, and are asking this question?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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racing civics is like walking in a circle...its work and it gets you no where
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:28 AM
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i have headers for sale, check your PMS
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 03:45 AM
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do your entire exhaust... catback exhaust, high flow catalytic converter, and y-pipe, then an intake if u have leftover money, which i doubt
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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ok, i guess nobody read right, I have a **** load list of mods, I only posted my performace ones. I do have a Gready Catback SP, I do have a stillen y-pipe, I do have a stillen intake, I do have a random tech performace cat. What im asking if To complete this ****, wouldnt cattman headers/y-pipe with an injen CAI make me faster with the setup i have after my y pipe. and how do i run low 14's common man its a 95 5-speed with those mods, If your a good driver with all motor you can do it. And yes ive been on the org long enuff but I dont keep up with any of the new stuff that comes out, so thats why I ask.
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 08:03 AM
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I know the headers give gains, buy im not convinced they are significatlly greater then the Y pipe. I have yet to see a dyno taken from a car with aftermarket Y, with a dyno from the same car with headers to show the increase of HP over the y pipe.
I say if you already have the y, stay with that.
If your looking for more power get a ECU and the MEVI.
Since your 5 speed ever consider a clutch and flyweel setup.
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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I'm in the same position as you basically the same performance mods but not enough power. I am going to save up for an ECU and MEVI for the spring and I'm hoping that will satisfy me for a while. So save up and get the good stuff and until you see significant gains for headers I wouldn't buy them.... By the way racing civics is like watching old people have sex
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:40 AM
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 02:42 AM
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since you already have an intake.... getting the Injen CAI isnt really much of a gain. its really not a cold air either. save the money and put it into something else. as for headers.. i dont think it'll give you a rice burner sound.. but more of a muscle sound.

ps.. dont forget to do the free mods like weight reduction! and also.. why are you wasting your time racing civics... its just a waste of time and gas.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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Sounds to me like you have done all the stuff that yields worthwhile gains for modest money. Everything left is either not worth doing, or costs an arm and a leg. I.e. you have reached the point of "diminishing returns".

BTW, that is a REALLY nice looking car you have there.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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ECU wait 700 dollars? 101,000 miles? spray baby spray
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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aight, dude, please don't go around looking for a header and think it'll gain you much of anything.
first of all, if you are running an unbelievable 14.3 with that setup you've got. you are nowhere to get any gains from the injen intake or the headers. injen intake doesn't do ****. i had it once, and changed it to the placeracing style. then i can feel the low end pull significantly. as far as that header go, you are only going to get minimal gains in power, but maximum gains in noise. and that noise is really aggravating. you will grow tired of it soon. that is a big waste of money.

second thing, being that you run the 14.3s, your next mod for significant gains will only come from ECU or the mevi, but mevi will only do little for 1/4 mile improvement, because you'll lose low end power like crazy. then your next ideal mod after ECU is the flywheel and clutch combo. UDP frees up some horse power, that's right, but you won't notice it granted that you did all these mods already.
with 700, you can do the place racing cai for less than 200. then invest the other 500 to the ECU. that'll settle well for your dinner on civics. my brother runs his stock 96 maxima ,with only a skunk2 muffler, not even a modified intake, against a 2004 civic SI. brother beat them three lights in a row. the dude just can't believe it, thinking brother had supercharger or something. and my bro's car is automatic, too. how slow them civics are?
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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What would a ECU Change in this car? Obviously the computer, but should the ECU add to the wheels on a typical 5 Speed 95 Max?

What size length are those Catman headers or whatever?

What the hell is a Mevi?

Is the only other option FI or Nitrous? How much spray can a stock motor take with safe but effective results?

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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisUlrich
What would a ECU Change in this car? Obviously the computer, but should the ECU add to the wheels on a typical 5 Speed 95 Max?
yes, alot

Originally Posted by ChrisUlrich
What the hell is a Mevi?
Middle East Variable Intake

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Is the only other option FI or Nitrous? How much spray can a stock motor take with safe but effective results?
Weight reduction, MEVI, ecu should yield a damn fast n/a...
for future reference, all of this information is available at your friendly neighborhood FAQ. Read the stickies at the top.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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the intake you have is fine.. and i mean fine. Getting another intake wont solve your problem. Furthermore, i would tell you to get some udp's because for arround the 100-150 range you get some good gains. Unless your like me and have a huge freaking sound system. Also, consider getting a ECU upgrade.. I wouldnt waste my money on a Mevi, however that is just me, some other people can argue on that topic... good luck, i klnow what its like to be in high school and be BROKE! lol but i spend 75% of my money on my car. priority check!
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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LOL acually im at lincoln tech its about 99% consisted of civics. they love to hate on my maxima. 2nd I just bought some stone mountain racing headers from this member on the org and to tell you the truth he gave me a very nice price so its not wayyy out of my price range like those cattman headers, its more than half that price and he showed me some pics they are totaly smooth no weld marks like you see on the other stone mountain headers. I was concern about inspection/sound. I know these headers will change my sound but not for the worse and i doubt it will sound loud at all, and come inspection ill put back on my stock y-pipe. i was think about the injen intake, I will have about 500 dollars left over, so Where can I obtain this ECU? how long do I wait for this to come? Thanks for all your replies. 14.3 is not unbelievable trust me theres an I30 member on this site that has all motor auto and ran 14.1 Ill show u his name and siggy when i find it.
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 06:59 AM
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Hrmm I wouldnt have taken those headers man They are crap compared to the catman. Good luck with those. You can obtain an ECU either from techno square or Jim wolf technology (JWT) goodle em both. JWT is a few hundred mopre because they raise the rev limiter, and on the other side the Technosquare keeps the existing one but changes some variables thus giving you more HP. Technosquare was arround $385 i think, you send them your ECU from your car, and they will have it back to you in a matter of days. JWT will do the same thing however, you can put a deposit down for a stock oem ecu so that when you send your ecu in to get modified, you will have the one JWT gave you so they you can be able to drive arround still. Either way these are great mods. I feel like JWT is a monopoly though, high prices just to modify the timings on a CHIP! heh anyway good luck man
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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arent they still better than stock headers? i still didnt send out anything yet like the payment.
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im telling you mevi+ecu
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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i decided not to get those headers and go with the ECU. Now i just need to know which one to get
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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lol uhm technosquare i heard is good?
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