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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:24 AM
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You guys are wrong about the B-pipe (test pipe)

i put that babby on my car today and it sounds pretty good and you guys told me it would add 1hp well im sorri but i colud feel the pull of my max out of first gear it was great i love the pipe it was the best 35 bux i ever spent i raced a camaro today and the guy was with his girlfreind and he was showing off lol it was awsome pulled up to the light and took off i got him of the line pulled up to the next light tought it was a fluke got his cump *** again it was a great day today so i reccomned getting a test pipe (the thing that replaces your catalytic converter) cuz its doing awsome for my car.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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oh yea? great to hear that.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:40 AM
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b-pipe is not test pipe, test pipe is test pipe...


Headers -> Y-pipe -> Cat/Test-pipe -> B-pipe -> Axle-Back/Muffler
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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and b pipe is a b pipe!
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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and b pipe is a b pipe!
That'sssssss rrriiiggghhhttt!
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:54 AM
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well whatever you call it, someone told me it adds 1hp and is worthless, but they where wrong.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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Seems to me that the increase would depend on the condition of your catalytic converter, would it not?
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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Seems to me that the increase would depend on the condition of your catalytic converter, would it not?
i think so, but my cat converter want in that bad of shape. im stil keeping it cuz i need it for emmsions.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 02:51 AM
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I think you have the placebo effect.. You need some suger pills?

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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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stop killing trees and put ur stock cat back-on
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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yeah...tree killer...put it back on
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mansurxk
yeah...tree killer...put it back on

nah i love this b-pipe it completes me and woops on camaros.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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its not a B-PIPE! its a TEST PIPE!
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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you probably felt a differnece because your catyic converter was clogged
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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It is not possible to feel 4-5 hp on a 3000lbs car. If it the problem was that your cat was just bad, then it's not that the test pipe gave you more power it was that the cat was taking away power. And if you cat is really bad you won't be able to pass emissions with it anyhow
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sy0p
nah i love this b-pipe it completes me and woops on camaros.
*******, as 45 others have told you. The test pipe is a straight pipe that replaces your Cat. The B-pipe is the section after your cat and attached to the muffler section
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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*******, as 45 others have told you. The test pipe is a straight pipe that replaces your Cat. The B-pipe is the section after your cat and attached to the muffler section

ohh yea test pipe, i hope cancer runs in your family.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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^^^^ hahah, thats a f*cked up yet funny thing to say
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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I don't care what you feel.

Unless we see dyno numbers proving this huge power gain, you're just another rice-boy killing trees (and camaros apparently).
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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where did you get your pipe at my cat is bad so i'm thinking to get one
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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ebay is your friend.. LOL

and yeah.. bpipe is the part after the cat to the muffler... so stop calling it b-pipe
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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So 2-3hp turned your car from camaro fodder into camaro killer? wow...
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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hey why don't you get one of THESE too. it will give you 20hp!!!!!!!!!! then you could kill corvettes too
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sy0p
ohh yea test pipe, i hope cancer runs in your family.
Well with people like you removing their cats and polluting the air, you may get your wish!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyrexx
b-pipe is not test pipe, test pipe is test pipe...


Headers -> Y-pipe -> Cat/Test-pipe -> B-pipe -> Axle-Back/Muffler
Do I need to quote myself???

Take a look.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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The catalytic converter is one of the biggest restrictions on an exhaust system. I definitely feel a nice gain in top end whenever I put my testpipe on. And I know my cat is fine b/c I pass emissions with flying colors everytime I had to do it in Vegas. And at the track, I saw a little over a tenth of a second shaved. It's just a tenth, but I definitely can notice a gain in top end.

I can easily see someone gaining 5+hp just by installing a testpipe. Just don't expect it to be quite as noticable as a nice aftermarket Ypipe.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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well its true....with a testpipe mostly...you'll lose some low end but gain a lot of top end.

and that ebay 'speed' wutever really does work...but its a 5cent resistor from radioshack...or like $2 for 20 of em lol. and ur not gonna get 20hp..maybe 2...but u go through a lot more fuel...we tried it on my friends mustang...i raced him with my old Lancer and could keep up til 40 than he'd pull on me...we did that to his car and by 30 it was like when we reached 40. but he went through a helluva lot of fuel...and took it off a week later lol
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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lol i dont care what you guys say i thought this was suppsoed to be a help forum lol its ok i know what i saw and what i felt soo **** YAll...... and the cat converter was pretty bad i guess thats what the problem was but still i got it repelced and know i dont need it anymore only for emmisions.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Oh my god, thank god you haven't showed up to any meets. You'd be laughed at right away. Listen, the test pipe you bought gives 1hp and takes away 1ft/lb of tq. There was a dyno so comparing that to what you feel, smoked weed lately, is more accurate. You can't even feel an intake in most cases on a max or the cat-back, which is 5-6hp, so how in the hell would you feel 1hp?
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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Oh my god, thank god you haven't showed up to any meets. You'd be laughed at right away. Listen, the test pipe you bought gives 1hp and takes away 1ft/lb of tq. There was a dyno so comparing that to what you feel, smoked weed lately, is more accurate. You can't even feel an intake in most cases on a max or the cat-back, which is 5-6hp, so how in the hell would you feel 1hp?
...because he apparently beat a camero, don't you know?
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Dave, I think I'm going to start a donation club of some sort on your behalf...
you need some anger management classes

but yeah...what he said.....
you can't feel shyt it's all in your head.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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its called a test pipe for a reason. you use it on the dyno so a wide band O2 sensor can get accurate readings of A/F. its not supposed to be used for daily use.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy0p
lol i dont care what you guys say i thought this was suppsoed to be a help forum lol its ok i know what i saw and what i felt soo **** YAll......
This is a help forum.

Real help and good info is not comprised of butt-dyno feelings. Real help and info comes from repeatable tests and analysis.

Don't get all butt hurt because we didn't jump on your little one-man bandwagon.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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It's the "don't need it anymore" because it's "only for emissions" that is not going to sit right with many people, as if you feel that these particular laws (regarding how much your car is entitled to polute the environment) don't apply to you.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Nothin Like The Good 'ol Butt-dyno To Measure 1.5hp
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
Don't get all butt hurt because we didn't jump on your little one-man bandwagon.
Two man bandwagon. Removing the catalytic converter has been proven to help over the years with many domestics. And it's been proven by me, to myself, that removing it actually helps 1/4 mile times.

I have never heard of this dyno that someone did to compare a cat to a testpipe. But it's definitely more than a 1hp gain in all the cars I've dealt with. I don't understand how it can help so much in other cars, but only help 1hp in the 4th gen. I've always thought a catalytic converter was a catalytic converter. It shaved over one tenth in my car.
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Two man bandwagon. Removing the catalytic converter has been proven to help over the years with many domestics. And it's been proven by me, to myself, that removing it actually helps 1/4 mile times.

Since you have track times to back up your claims, you're not on the butt-dyno bandwagon
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mzmtg
Since you have track times to back up your claims, you're not on the butt-dyno bandwagon
Oh, I see. Then I guess it's still a one man bandwagon. B/c whenever I put on the testpipe, my butt dyno definitely shows a loss in low end and a gain in top end. But there is no way I could tell if it would actually help in the 1/4 mile. I just did this mod b/c it's been proven over the years with other cars that a catalytic converter saves the trees, but hurts your 1/4 mile times.

I went to the 1/4 mile and logged all my data in my logbook and do some math and I shaved between .1 and .15 on average. I can't estimate in terms of HP ratings b/c I have only been on the dyno once in my life. I am a track *****, not a dyno *****.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Again, I think it all depends on how restrictive the catalytic converter is. If the interior of the cat is fused into a solid glob, removing it will undoubtedly help a great deal.



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