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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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horsepower

hey i was just wondering how much horsepower you get out of a cold air intake system and a cat back exhaust stystem??
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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5 at peak with CAI, 7 at peak with catback

area under the entire rpm...not too much.


















y-pipe and UDP will give you the most power, then get catback and intake to provide maximum flow.
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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I Dont Know About Anyone Else But I Dropped .4 Off My Quarter Mile Time W/ My Intake. I Ran A 15.4 Stock And A 15.0 W/ A Cai. Id Say You Probaly Get About 12-15 Hp Out Of An Intake And 2.5 Inch Catbak
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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Why do you guys waste money on runs with simply, basic bolt-ons?
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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not alot ..
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by maxima_kid
Why do you guys waste money on runs with simply, basic bolt-ons?
To see the improvement.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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its called love for racing......y do people make runs with a supercharger....its a bolt-on
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Some people don't even add a bolt on or anything to their vehicles, they just try a different launching or shifting method and see if the results are positive, love for racing. . .
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
its called love for racing......y do people make runs with a supercharger....its a bolt-on
Super chargers and turbo chargers are not 'basic' ... Im just saying, intake is not worth it, not yet. Exhaust ... maybe. If you guys want better time, go bigger! Do what you guys want but Id preferr to save the money spent on dyno and run time for bigger 'bolt-ons'.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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well i dont think spending 20 bucks to race is going to hender your bank account if you go once a month or so.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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well i dont think spending 20 bucks to race is going to hender your bank account if you go once a month or so.

yeah but most of these fake racers think its giong to make 10HP differnece by switching intakes, so people problaby go through quite a few intakes before they realize how much money they wasted.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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yeah but most of these fake racers think its giong to make 10HP differnece by switching intakes, so people problaby go through quite a few intakes before they realize how much money they wasted.
Yeah your definetely right bro, people think in their minds they felt a difference when they add something on but trully its not there ur *** and feet are not dynos.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by happyricefob
y-pipe and UDP will give you the most power
I'm going to change the subject a little here, hope you don't mind...

I've got a y-pipe coming already, but I'm just curious about how much horsepower a UDP frees up (because I know it doesn't "make" any).
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SlackR237
I'm going to change the subject a little here, hope you don't mind...

I've got a y-pipe coming already, but I'm just curious about how much horsepower a UDP frees up (because I know it doesn't "make" any).
According to Dave B, makes no difference in 1/4 mile time/mph.

As you said it doesn;t make any, just frees some up.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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i dissagree there about not making a difference. because i saw my 1/4 mph go up by 1.5 mph.. after i put it on. and im at the track every month.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mansurxk
yeah but most of these fake racers think its giong to make 10HP differnece by switching intakes, so people problaby go through quite a few intakes before they realize how much money they wasted.
well that could be ture also. i just go every month for fun... and just pratice my launching. because next year ill be boosted and want to run low 13`s i hope
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 01:42 AM
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well that could be ture also. i just go every month for fun... and just pratice my launching. because next year ill be boosted and want to run low 13`s i hope
But you can practice lauches practically anywhere. Why only at the tracks? Besides, doing runs so often lessens your engine and tranny life, especially your clutch ... assuming you guys are atleast running manuals. Racing an auto is just sad. A little sometimes can save a lot. Just look at me ...
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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honestly.....does it matter what you have in your car? no, whoever wants to go to the track can go, and with whatever bolt-ons they want. I dont know about you but i love racing/hate cops. The track is perfect for me and i only got sp2 and a stillen intake. I dont care what i run, i go to practice/perfect launches, and have fun. This website is gettin pretty conformist, no ev05's, no stillen kit, no sc/tc, no respect. Whatever if people want to go to the track after they put in a f*ckin muffler bearing, lol, it shouldnt matter to anyone. Their car, their choice. Sorry a lil 8am ranting before class
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by larryseibel
I Dont Know About Anyone Else But I Dropped .4 Off My Quarter Mile Time W/ My Intake. I Ran A 15.4 Stock And A 15.0 W/ A Cai. Id Say You Probaly Get About 12-15 Hp Out Of An Intake And 2.5 Inch Catbak
Really? I would like to see the time slips from before and after your intake
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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But you can practice lauches practically anywhere. Why only at the tracks? Besides, doing runs so often lessens your engine and tranny life, especially your clutch ... assuming you guys are atleast running manuals. Racing an auto is just sad. A little sometimes can save a lot. Just look at me ...

really where are you going to pratice launching your car with a tree at. only place i know is at the track.yeah just like racing your car around on the streets does the same thing. but i would reather do it where it safe at the track.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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A pulley is one of those mods that costs a lot, takes a while to install, and makes no power difference at all.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 98MaXeDouT
honestly.....does it matter what you have in your car? no, whoever wants to go to the track can go, and with whatever bolt-ons they want. I dont know about you but i love racing/hate cops. The track is perfect for me and i only got sp2 and a stillen intake. I dont care what i run, i go to practice/perfect launches, and have fun. This website is gettin pretty conformist, no ev05's, no stillen kit, no sc/tc, no respect. Whatever if people want to go to the track after they put in a f*ckin muffler bearing, lol, it shouldnt matter to anyone. Their car, their choice. Sorry a lil 8am ranting before class

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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 98MaXeDouT
honestly.....does it matter what you have in your car? no, whoever wants to go to the track can go, and with whatever bolt-ons they want. I dont know about you but i love racing/hate cops. The track is perfect for me and i only got sp2 and a stillen intake. I dont care what i run, i go to practice/perfect launches, and have fun. This website is gettin pretty conformist, no ev05's, no stillen kit, no sc/tc, no respect. Whatever if people want to go to the track after they put in a f*ckin muffler bearing, lol, it shouldnt matter to anyone. Their car, their choice. Sorry a lil 8am ranting before class
I put the muffler bearing mod after the Johnson bars..saw some improvement...I think 1/4 second of previous times.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckie311
really where are you going to pratice launching your car with a tree at. only place i know is at the track.yeah just like racing your car around on the streets does the same thing. but i would reather do it where it safe at the track.
Punk talk. You all say the track's the best, safest place ... its all about the love for racing ... If you havent actually been to a couple runs in the middle of the nite, haven't taken someone head on with just rules on the streets, there is no race. You all are just playin it safe and thats not loving it. If you cant find atleast one place to just mess around at, youre not trying.

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honestly.....does it matter what you have in your car? no, whoever wants to go to the track can go, and with whatever bolt-ons they want. I dont know about you but i love racing/hate cops.
Honestly ... thats a dumbas* comment. True racing enthusiast go to get better time not to get the same time over and over. And you dont get it with the same 'bolt-ons' over and over. Try reading ... the title of this thread is 'horsepower' not 'Lets see if i can get the same numbers this week with my coolas* intake' .
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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Honestly ... thats a dumbas* comment. True racing enthusiast go to get better time not to get the same time over and over.
It's called Bracket Racing...
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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i use to street race but why push it now a days if you get caught racing down here they take your car and you dont get it back.never said the track is the best place to race just said it was safer.


Originally Posted by maxima_kid
Punk talk. You all say the track's the best, safest place ... its all about the love for racing ... If you havent actually been to a couple runs in the middle of the nite, haven't taken someone head on with just rules on the streets, there is no race. You all are just playin it safe and thats not loving it. If you cant find atleast one place to just mess around at, youre not trying.



Honestly ... thats a dumbas* comment. True racing enthusiast go to get better time not to get the same time over and over. And you dont get it with the same 'bolt-ons' over and over. Try reading ... the title of this thread is 'horsepower' not 'Lets see if i can get the same numbers this week with my coolas* intake' .
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**** it,,, just keep beatin the nuts off your cars 1... I like to watch
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Originally Posted by maxima_kid
Punk talk. You all say the track's the best, safest place ... its all about the love for racing ... If you havent actually been to a couple runs in the middle of the nite, haven't taken someone head on with just rules on the streets, there is no race. You all are just playin it safe and thats not loving it. If you cant find atleast one place to just mess around at, youre not trying.



Honestly ... thats a dumbas* comment. True racing enthusiast go to get better time not to get the same time over and over. And you dont get it with the same 'bolt-ons' over and over. Try reading ... the title of this thread is 'horsepower' not 'Lets see if i can get the same numbers this week with my coolas* intake' .
Really? I guess everyone who races in a race series that doesn't allow you to just put any mod you want on your car isn't a "true racing enthusiast." Oh let's say for instance, Pro stock cars, or Top Fuel cars. They run the same setup time after time and don't ever run any faster, they run within tenths, hundredths, or thousandths of a second of the last pass they made, and the next pass they make will be the same. It's a shame they aren't "true racing enthusiasts" isn't it.

Also, launching on the street is not comparable to launching at the track in any way, shape or form.

Go wrap yourself and that elderly lady in the minivan with her 6 grandkids in the back seats around a minivan whilst you are demonstrating your "true racing enthusiasm" by racing on the street.

You are a moron. Please don't have kids.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Really? I guess everyone who races in a race series that doesn't allow you to just put any mod you want on your car isn't a "true racing enthusiast." Oh let's say for instance, Pro stock cars, or Top Fuel cars. They run the same setup time after time and don't ever run any faster, they run within tenths, hundredths, or thousandths of a second of the last pass they made, and the next pass they make will be the same. It's a shame they aren't "true racing enthusiasts" isn't it.

Also, launching on the street is not comparable to launching at the track in any way, shape or form.
You're an idiot ... taking my quotes way out of context. Whos talking about pro stock car racing? There is a difference between drag and series racing. If you don't know by now, one runs straight and the other runs in circles. Your homework is to find out which one's which.

And Im not speaking to Everyone here, Im stating to those who quoted me on this thread and thinks an intake is all it takes. Whats the point of trying for a better time without any improvement? And launching on the streets is comparable to the strip, Id say its pretty damn close too. Its common sense to find a nice, safe, flat surfaced, isolated location to pactice.
I admit, maybe I shoud've used the term 'racing enthusiast' but I figured most of you have the wits to understand what I was referring to. Guess you weren't one of the lucky ones.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187

Also, launching on the street is not comparable to launching at the track in any way, shape or form.

Go wrap yourself and that elderly lady in the minivan with her 6 grandkids in the back seats around a minivan whilst you are demonstrating your "true racing enthusiasm" by racing on the street.

You are a moron. Please don't have kids.
And who the f*ck is the elderly lady in the minivan? Your mama and your inbred kids/brothers? Where the hell did that come from?
Just because that minivan is the fastest vehicle in your family doesnt mean Id want to show you how to drive it. Why don't you do your kids a favor and hang them in the center of your hickas* town and save them the humility of growing up with a moron with your genes.

Why don't you take the next few years to finish up your 'little 96' project' and then come see me. and thats sad, the only thing you can afford is to wash your car ...
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 05:13 AM
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I thought this thread was about " HORSE POWER" ????
time to lock t his thread... ****in idiots here.,,,same old ****
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And who the foock is the elderly lady in the minivan? Your mama and your inbred kids/brothers? Where the hell did that come from?
Just because that minivan is the fastest vehicle in your family doesnt mean Id want to show you how to drive it. Why don't you do your kids a favor and hang them in the center of your hickas* town and save them the humility of growing up with a moron with your genes.

Why don't you take the next few years to finish up your 'little 96' project' and then come see me. and thats sad, the only thing you can afford is to wash your car ...
thats tellin him
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i dissagree there about not making a difference. because i saw my 1/4 mph go up by 1.5 mph.. after i put it on. and im at the track every month.
Ding ding. 1.5 mph sounds about right.

BTW, it's only $10 to run at the track I go to. $5 if you wanna be sneaky.
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Originally Posted by maxima_kid
You're an idiot ... taking my quotes way out of context. Whos talking about pro stock car racing? There is a difference between drag and series racing. If you don't know by now, one runs straight and the other runs in circles. Your homework is to find out which one's which.

And Im not speaking to Everyone here, Im stating to those who quoted me on this thread and thinks an intake is all it takes. Whats the point of trying for a better time without any improvement? And launching on the streets is comparable to the strip, Id say its pretty damn close too. Its common sense to find a nice, safe, flat surfaced, isolated location to pactice.
I admit, maybe I shoud've used the term 'racing enthusiast' but I figured most of you have the wits to understand what I was referring to. Guess you weren't one of the lucky ones.

you need to stop watching the F&F
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What It Comes Down To Is Peolpe Like To See What Bolt Ons Make Their Car Faster. I Know That Every Time I Put A Mod On My Car I Would Like To See If It Helped Or Hurt. So Dont Pick At Peolpe Because They Mod Their Car And Want To See What It Runs In The Quarter. Actually These People Can Best Describe What Mods Helped Their Car The Most Because Every Time They Hang One On They Test It Out.

15.4 Stock
15.0 W/ Intake
14.8 W/y-pipe And Hi Flow Cat
14.7 W/ Rest Of 2.5 Exhaust
14.6 Wunderpulley
14.4 W/ Unorthodox Flywheel
14.3 W/headers
So Now You Can Tell What Mods Do In Q/m Times. Dont Knock It Because You Dont Understand It
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why does the intake shave off .4 where the y-pipe AND highflow cat on decreases your time by .2... doesn't make sense to me...

can someone explain this?
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And who the f*ck is the elderly lady in the minivan? Your mama and your inbred kids/brothers? Where the hell did that come from?
Just because that minivan is the fastest vehicle in your family doesnt mean Id want to show you how to drive it. Why don't you do your kids a favor and hang them in the center of your hickas* town and save them the humility of growing up with a moron with your genes.

Why don't you take the next few years to finish up your 'little 96' project' and then come see me. and thats sad, the only thing you can afford is to wash your car ...
Dude, what do you care what people goto the track for, its not like its your business.. Let people do what they want, if you want to race on the street and smash into the first soccer van you see then more power to you.. People actually feel safer going to the track, no cops, no vans to crash into, oh did I mention no cops?

Sounds to me that your a little immature shooting down the track like that. Not everyone wants to get taken to jail, have there car impounded, and slapped with a $400+ ticket for being a moron on the street.

I think that turbo of yours boosted up your head like a TT supra owner.
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Originally Posted by jdm71488
why does the intake shave off .4 where the y-pipe AND highflow cat on decreases your time by .2... doesn't make sense to me...

can someone explain this?
Because those comparisons are not perfect. Looking at trap speed is a better indicator than ET. There are alot of variables that come into play. The weight of the car....sometimes people don't always run the same set up. Different weather conditions. Different tracks. Different 60' times.

So comparing mods with track times is not an exact science, especially when trying to look at tenths of a second. When someone makes a claim of how much a mod helped at the track, info needs to be given on these variables above. For example, I have yet to run better since adding my headers and cat-back, but I also put an new motor in, had MEVI problems, have gone to different tracks, and have not been in the same weather conditions. So it would be wrong of me to say that the headers and cat-back have helped or not.

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