Huge dent, with pics (56k no no) ... Need advice!
11-02-2004, 10:20 AM
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Huge dent, with pics (56k no no) ... Need advice!
Ok, well this happened almost two months ago now and this morning I decided I might give it a shot with some suction cups, since there is no crease in the dent I thought with enough suction that I would be able to pull it straight out.
No luck, I couldnt find a large enough flexible suction cup around town.. I might just order one.
the red circle shows how they hit from the bumper and then scraped along the side and into the quarter panel. the bumper seemed to have popped right back into shape, but there is a hole punched through it (the red circle) and some large gouges in the paint.
bastards!
Here is the dent puller I got from autozone, which I think would work if it was flexible enough to conform to the dent, but it's not with the hard plastic handle that prevents it from flexing enough (taking it apart didn't help, the rubber is actually flat, the handle when moved into the upright position pulls the center out creating suction.) Worst designed dent puller I could conceive now that I think about it, since it definitely cant conform to any dents. Atleast it was only $2.99
Other then that, locally the largest cups I could find were these (roughly 2" diameter)
These two in conjuction were moving the panel out a bit, I was pulling them towards single point with a rope with both ends tied to each suction cup, and a pipe steadied on the ground with my foot to pull it out. I think this method would work, but the suction cups just didnt have quite enough suction before they would pop off. I think with a larger cup (3" diameter or so) I could pull it off.
Anyone have any other suggestions? It seems impossible to get behind that fender and push it out from behind.
No luck, I couldnt find a large enough flexible suction cup around town.. I might just order one.
the red circle shows how they hit from the bumper and then scraped along the side and into the quarter panel. the bumper seemed to have popped right back into shape, but there is a hole punched through it (the red circle) and some large gouges in the paint.
bastards!
Here is the dent puller I got from autozone, which I think would work if it was flexible enough to conform to the dent, but it's not with the hard plastic handle that prevents it from flexing enough (taking it apart didn't help, the rubber is actually flat, the handle when moved into the upright position pulls the center out creating suction.) Worst designed dent puller I could conceive now that I think about it, since it definitely cant conform to any dents. Atleast it was only $2.99
Other then that, locally the largest cups I could find were these (roughly 2" diameter)
These two in conjuction were moving the panel out a bit, I was pulling them towards single point with a rope with both ends tied to each suction cup, and a pipe steadied on the ground with my foot to pull it out. I think this method would work, but the suction cups just didnt have quite enough suction before they would pop off. I think with a larger cup (3" diameter or so) I could pull it off.
Anyone have any other suggestions? It seems impossible to get behind that fender and push it out from behind.
11-02-2004, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Try sticking the nissan temp. jack from the inside and push it out from the inside
11-02-2004, 10:43 AM
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Just looked under the car again, there is a crevice between everything under there and the fender, and I think that it would be possible to get behind it enough to push if I removed the rear bumper.
How difficult is it to remove the rear bumper? It looks like I'd have a 1-2" gap to get behind it from where the bumper meets the fender, I might be able to pry it out that way...
How difficult is it to remove the rear bumper? It looks like I'd have a 1-2" gap to get behind it from where the bumper meets the fender, I might be able to pry it out that way...
11-02-2004, 11:57 AM
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You need to go from inside your trunk to get to the back of that dent. You'll be able to get your hand right on it with plenty of room to work. Remove the left side trunk lining and you'll see the back of that quarter pannel.
A body shop should be able to fix the dent and your rear bumper for around 500 bucks.
A body shop should be able to fix the dent and your rear bumper for around 500 bucks.
11-02-2004, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
You need to go from inside your trunk to get to the back of that dent. You'll be able to get your hand right on it with plenty of room to work. Remove the left side trunk lining and you'll see the back of that quarter pannel.
A body shop should be able to fix the dent and your rear bumper for around 500 bucks.
A body shop should be able to fix the dent and your rear bumper for around 500 bucks.
definitely cant get behind that panel from inside the trunk ... have you ever looked at that before, or are you just assuming from looking at it's position? the inside of the trunk is lined by sheet metal that has been folded out away from the outside body panels.
just found this ..
http://www.autobarn.net/usc77240.html
large suction cup that looks like it can conform like smaller ones do ... i think this could do the trick. 5 bucks is worth a shot before i spend a few hundred at a body shop. my car is getting painted next summer, I'd rather get a cheap fix for now instead of paying 1/3 the price of the paint job, then doing it all over again.
11-02-2004, 05:10 PM
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how is there room from under the car? there is stuff that I dont even know what it is all over the place .. there is a spot with a hole that seems to lead there but if you put your hand in there it has plastic inside there and does go through to the outer fender...
11-03-2004, 11:46 AM
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Get a suction cup like you were doing and get some clear, blue, black or red silicone, like you would use on an engine gasket or to seal a headlight, and glue the suction cup to the center of the dent with the silicone. Once it's dry, give it a nice solid straight yank. It should pull the dent right out and the silicone can be rubbed off the paint with absolutely no damage to the paint.
This will give you the needed suction. I pulled out a dent out of my friend's car like this. His car was a two door and the dent was in the quarter panel where on the left side was the door, center was the dent and on the right side was the rear wheel. It would have been a pain the a$$ to take apart the interior to get behind the dent. It took a few trys to get the whole dent out but we got it out little by little. The hardest part was just waiting for the silicone to dry.
This will give you the needed suction. I pulled out a dent out of my friend's car like this. His car was a two door and the dent was in the quarter panel where on the left side was the door, center was the dent and on the right side was the rear wheel. It would have been a pain the a$$ to take apart the interior to get behind the dent. It took a few trys to get the whole dent out but we got it out little by little. The hardest part was just waiting for the silicone to dry.
11-03-2004, 12:46 PM
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There is most definitely room inside to push it out(Question is will it work). That is where I plan to move my battery to if I ever get around to it. The sheet metal you see only extends toward the rear about 1 foot. Remove that entire trunk lining and you'll see what we are talking about.
11-03-2004, 12:59 PM
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Just a thought, but have you tried lookin gfor a larger suction cup at the hardware store? I would imagine you could find a large one there.
Also, have you tried taking out the wheel well splash guard out and looking behind there? May give you access to the dent.
Also, have you tried taking out the wheel well splash guard out and looking behind there? May give you access to the dent.
11-03-2004, 09:01 PM
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id like to know how this works.. i am also trying to pull a tiny dent on the front of my hood with a very small plunger.. i've seen it work on my friends tailgate on his truck.. i'll have to see how this method works tomorrow with time in the sunlight...
Also, have you thought about one of those paintless dent removal companies?
11-04-2004, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Igobuk
Get a suction cup like you were doing and get some clear, blue, black or red silicone, like you would use on an engine gasket or to seal a headlight, and glue the suction cup to the center of the dent with the silicone. Once it's dry, give it a nice solid straight yank. It should pull the dent right out and the silicone can be rubbed off the paint with absolutely no damage to the paint.
This will give you the needed suction. I pulled out a dent out of my friend's car like this. His car was a two door and the dent was in the quarter panel where on the left side was the door, center was the dent and on the right side was the rear wheel. It would have been a pain the a$$ to take apart the interior to get behind the dent. It took a few trys to get the whole dent out but we got it out little by little. The hardest part was just waiting for the silicone to dry.
This will give you the needed suction. I pulled out a dent out of my friend's car like this. His car was a two door and the dent was in the quarter panel where on the left side was the door, center was the dent and on the right side was the rear wheel. It would have been a pain the a$$ to take apart the interior to get behind the dent. It took a few trys to get the whole dent out but we got it out little by little. The hardest part was just waiting for the silicone to dry.
Try this, or try a hot glue gun, You will be able to peel it right off the paint afterwards. I don't know if your suction cup will live through it though.
11-04-2004, 10:04 AM
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paintless dent removers?
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