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Old 11-07-2004, 11:40 PM
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question about upper intake manifold ?

i have a 97 maxima with the stock us manifold. i want to do the extrude honed thing and a friend of mine has an upper intake manifold off a 95 and a 96. just wanted to make sure one off a 95 or 96 will fit perfectly.

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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
i have a 97 maxima with the stock us manifold. i want to do the extrude honed thing and a friend of mine has an upper intake manifold off a 95 and a 96. just wanted to make sure one off a 95 or 96 will fit perfectly.

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I believe they are the same.
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What the...?? You back in the US??
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anyone know for sure ? are the 95,96, and 97 upper intake manifolds one size fits all ?

nismology - no, just doing a few things and having the finished products sent over
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I believe 99 Cali is the only one that is different. It should be no problem.
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IIRC the 99 Cali-spec upper manifold is the same as the rest. It's just that the lower manifold has swirl valves.
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thanks !! plus more words to make this post long enough
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Caesar I believe the ONLY difference might be that one of the vaccuum line nipple thingys on the right side of the manifold may be right angled upwards instead of going straight out the side. You may have to slap a new hose on there with about 2 more inches to play with. I found that as being the only difference when I swapped mine out & polished my new one. Good luck!
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what is the extrude honed intake?
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http://www.extrudehone.com/powerflow.html

It smooths out the inside of the manifold, giving better flow and more power.
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Are you going boosted at some point Ceasar? I was told by a reputable source on our site that it's not worth the money if you're staying NA. I thought about doing it too.
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maximabebe - have any photos of the polished manifold ! sounds nice
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deezo - i lost the thread but dave b was saying an old org member did this and saw some gains. could you do a search for extrude honed or extrude hone and see if you can pull up some of the threads for me. just need the links
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
deezo - i lost the thread but dave b was saying an old org member did this and saw some gains. could you do a search for extrude honed or extrude hone and see if you can pull up some of the threads for me. just need the links
for the same money or less you can put a 00 vi on . You will gain more than a extrude hone manifold.
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yea caesar i will have them tonight, along with pics of my custom homemade spark plug cover. later.
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extrude honing is only about $350 and that's from stillen. i called to check yesterday i am sure you can get it cheaper elsewhere and if there was a way to prove that gains can be had i am sure a bunch of other people will try to get in on a group deal. i know i am down for just about anything i can bolt on and make power (while staying NA).
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
deezo - i lost the thread but dave b was saying an old org member did this and saw some gains. could you do a search for extrude honed or extrude hone and see if you can pull up some of the threads for me. just need the links
look at post #39 by "Dave B"
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....e+honing+gains
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zack342 can you give extrude honed a call and find out what kinda money they would charge to do the maxima ? also is extrude honed the place Keven97SE got his done at ? also thanks for the link Z !

http://www.extrudehone.com
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just got back an email from extrude hone. the price is $650
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
just got back an email from extrude hone. the price is $650
$650!?!?!?!?!? on their pricing list they have it listed as $400 for 6 cylinder NA.
http://www.extrudehone.com/price_list2.pdf
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Why you all would consider paying that much for that when the 00VI is available is beyond me...
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Originally Posted by nismology
Why you all would consider paying that much for that when the 00VI is available is beyond me...
Much less work than 00-01 VI and less headaches.No need for rpm switches like MEVI or in the 00-01 VI case no need for special adapter plates and tuning. jus bolt it on and you get your 10whp and everyone is happy.
if they can do it for $400 i think its a good deal but $650 for 10whp is insane
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Originally Posted by zack342
$650!?!?!?!?!? on their pricing list they have it listed as $400 for 6 cylinder NA.
http://www.extrudehone.com/price_list2.pdf
What are you looking at? On that page it says 5 or 6 cylinder aluminum EFI = $650...
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Originally Posted by nismology
What are you looking at? On that page it says 5 or 6 cylinder aluminum EFI = $650...
yea take a closer look, that 650 price is for a 2 peice Unit, we arent sending the lower intake manifold.

Are you sure that $650 price is for just the upper and not Both ??

It would be good for a forced induction guys to get this done but for N/A its probably not worth it

If it was $400 i would do it

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No he is right it is $650 for aluminum EFI
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Originally Posted by matty
yea take a closer look, that 650 price is for a 2 peice Unit, we arent sending the lower intake manifold.

Are you sure that $650 price is for just the upper and not Both ??

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The price for 2 pieces is $775.
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Originally Posted by matty
yea take a closer look, that 650 price is for a 2 peice Unit, we arent sending the lower intake manifold.

Are you sure that $650 price is for just the upper and not Both ??

It would be good for a forced induction guys to get this done but for N/A its probably not worth it

If it was $400 i would do it

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yeah forced induction guys would see more dramatic gains from this but it does show gains on NA. aboud 10WHP and 10WTQ. I provided a link to the information proving this. In doing some research i have found this to be soo efecctive that FORD had all the intakes for the 2.5 in the SVt contour Extrude Honed. who knows maybe this will peak some kinda interest, i am going to look into a bit more and see what i can come up with
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The cost to process your intake is $650.00 plus shipping. If you have further questions contact Rick Miller, he can be reached at 1-800-613-1065 or reply to this email.

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Maybe one of you guys can call and follow up on the price with them. Im out of the country so i dont want to call, lol. Maybe we can shop around some other places. Or see if we can send in a few together. I dont have all the money just yet.
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i just called rick miller
if we can get
6 people they can do it for $550
10 people they can do it for $500
i am sure if we could get 15 people the may knock it down to about $450
i think we should look into this

He said normally they see about a 20% increase in airflow.
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Originally Posted by zack342
i just called rick miller
if we can get
6 people they can do it for $550
10 people they can do it for $500
i am sure if we could get 15 people the may knock it down to about $450
i think we should look into this

He said normally they see about a 20% increase in airflow.
I say we do this...If worst comes to worse I can take my MEVI off my car and put on my stock Unit..so when we decide to do this I will still have my car to use

Do we have at least 6 people that are willing to do this ?? another question is availabilty...some people may not be able to take their manifold off and wait for it to come back in the amount of time it takes...

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zack that sounds promising. i dont have the money just yet. lets try a group deal including the info we have gained and see if we can 5, 10, or 15 people. It seems like 5 people would be cake. SO we might can cut into this price pretty good. If you want to start the group deal then do it up. Im about to run out the door and will check things out later. also we can place a link in this thread to the gd thread. good work man !
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are you guys going to extrude and hone the MEVI or the USIM ??

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yeah i would be interested if we could get 10.
just because its kinda pricey to ship and i need to buy a spare intake manifold to send out.
i also called stillen and spoke to Adam over there. i asked him to check how much it would be to have one done. then i asked him to check how much to have 5 and 10.
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i think the MEVI manifold would be more because it is dual plane and has those butter flies and whatnot.

i will wait until i hear back from stillen on what they can do as far as pricing goes.
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Originally Posted by zack342
i think the MEVI manifold would be more because it is dual plane and has those butter flies and whatnot.

i will wait until i hear back from stillen on what they can do as far as pricing goes.
I would trust http://www.extrudehone.com way before stillen..

Well I would want my MEVI done, not my USIM

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Why not hone the mevi and get even more out of it?
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Originally Posted by matty
I would trust http://www.extrudehone.com way before stillen..

Well I would want my MEVI done, not my USIM

-matt

stillen sends it out to extrudehone i checked everywhere online and so far this is the only place that does it and apparently they are really good. i will try to see if i can peak interest among come of the 98-99 guys since MEVI/ECU combo is not a very likely option. if we could get 10 0r 15 confirmed buyers this will become very doable and while 10-15 whp doesn't seem like much. this also improves gas mileage and emissions.
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Originally Posted by waveridr85
Why not hone the mevi and get even more out of it?
i am sure it can be done and you will see more power out of it but it will be more expensive because of the design. remember it is more complicated than the USDM manifold. i guess we could inquire but from lookin at their price listing its like $775
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Originally Posted by zack342
stillen sends it out to extrudehone i checked everywhere online and so far this is the only place that does it and apparently they are really good. i will try to see if i can peak interest among come of the 98-99 guys since MEVI/ECU combo is not a very likely option. if we could get 10 0r 15 confirmed buyers this will become very doable and while 10-15 whp doesn't seem like much. this also improves gas mileage and emissions.
well without the butterflys and the top cap on the MEVI, its pretty close to the USIM....they dont have to etrude and hone the top section since that just "holds" the air

of course anyone sending in the MEVI would need to take the butterflies out and the top hat of the MEVI

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I would definitely not trust Stillen to do this. Especially seeing as ExtroneHone pioneered the technique. You guys really think it would be benificial to only do the upper? I remember over two years ago when someone did this. They did the upper and got some gains. They then did the lower and gains were substaintial. I would be very interested because I don't like the idea of having to deal with Vaccum lines and RPM switches. I don't mind the work that is involved w/ installing a VI but it seems that transformation of the engine is dramatic. I don't think I'd like it. Not to mention slightly less reliability. I really like the torquey characteristics of the USIM. What are the gains of this upper EH'ing? Are they only up top? Does it hurt down low at all? I'd be very interested if it was for $500 but not at this time. Tranny must come first.
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