anybody bought full exhaust system from warpspeed? i need to replace my exhaust system cuz they're really rusted and there's nothing that holds b-pipe in its place...it's just sitting on this metal thingy and it's making a lot of rattling sound when i go over the bump. cat doesn't really look like it's in good condition and muffler's jacked up as well. i just need some advice/recommendation/comments on their full exhaust system. they're selling them for $590.

 

I have the Warpspeed aluminized y-pipe, b-pipe, and their quieter "dynomax clone" muffler.

Y-pipe: Seems to be good quality. I'd get the stainless steel though for $40 more. I kind of regret being such a cheapskate about it and buying the aluminized steel. No rust yet, but it hasn't been through a full NY winter yet. One note: I got a lot of "buzzing" when I first installed the y-pipe. I think it was mostly due to the pipe vibrating a lot because it is so much ligher than the heavily armored stock one. Within a couple of weeks it settled down and has been quiet since. I'm pretty happy with it now. Had it since mid-summer.

B-pipe: Seems well made. Nice round mandrel bends. Solid welds. Also vibrates (you can see it move underneath the car). Not sure if the stock one did this, too, because I never bothered to look. It caused some noise until I removed the useless bar that sits beneath the b-pipe. This bar does nothing. Maybe it is there to prevent the exhaust from falling off if it were to detach from the car? Not likely to happen. But just letting you know. I imagine other B-pipes will have similar clearance issues since the diameter of the aftermarket pipe is wider than the stock one. Two screws will remove the bar and end the occasional noise from the rubbing.

Muffler: I'd honestly go with a different muffler than the "dynomax clone." A stock 2000+ muffler or even a new stock 4th gen muffler is quiet and will not cost you more than 1 HP (if that).
This "dynomax clone" muffler is quieter than most aftermarkets (as they advertise) but doesn't look as nice as the stock one. Sure the tip is nice, but the thing is FAT. It doesn't tuck sleekly underneath the car. You can see the round, fat muffler under the rear of the car very noticeably. Also, because it is "fat" the muffler tip hangs lower than stock. Not a big deal, but I did scrape the tip once or twice when going up very steep driveways. The muffler and y-pipe give a low, raspy, grumble with acceleration.

ISSUES: The parts themselves seem well-made and relatively rust resistant. However, they put some ****ty-**** metal hangars on everything. These hangars must be untreated re-bar or something as the surface rusts almost immediately. These hangars are plenty thick enough that they will never rust through in your lifetime, but still, why wouldn't they use aluminized or stainless steel hangars instead?

You never see these hangars, except for the muffler hangers which can be seem somewhat from the rear of the car, so it's not a huge deal. Maybe Dallas doesn't know how fast these fruckers rust because his shop is in such an arid place? No clue. Just getting all of the facts out there.

OVERALL EXPERIENCE: Mixed. Very happy with the y-pipe and b-pipe. Not as happy with the muffler because it is fat and bulky looking in the back. Also, those stupid re-bar exhaust hangers. Also, the muffler tip hangs kind of low (about 2" below the bumper) so it looks less neat and "sleek". Hope that's helpful!

 

Oh yeah, I bought a high-flow cat from them too (was very cheap with the group deal). I'm very happy with it so far.

So, I give them good marks for everything except the muffler.

And also, sometimes it can be hard to reach Dallas on the phone. The woman who answers phones for them is very nice and pretty helpful, but only Dallas seems knowledgeable enough to answer any technical questions and solve fitment issues (he makes the parts, so that makes sense.) They seem like good people, but don't be surprised if it takes them a while to help you out if you have issues on account of this being a very small-scale operation that's pretty busy with work.

 

Love there Y-pipe it is quality stuff.. Had a nightmarish time getting my B pipe and from now on will just get it custom done at the shop after having to finally have them weld there own hangars to keep the muffler and pipe from banging around. Tracksmart was talking about the gap and without having a exhaust place fix it I think it will be apparent with warpspeed. I mean maybe I got a bad pipe.. idk I have heard similar problems from some others.

I have the magnaflow SS and with the hangars provided it did not "tuck" well which drove me nuts. Now that I have that fixed I do like it but realized I could have gotten the same results from any local shop without all the hassle. Once it was tucked though I love the look and it just completes the rear end.

 

i got their complete exhaust package. i think their y-pipe could be better designed it should have 2 1/4 " down pipes not 2" going into 2 1/2" . the b pipe i got was a nightmare it didnt fit so they sent me another one (after a 2 week wait!) and the new one still didnt fit right. they advertise that the cat and muffler are SS magnaflow but what i got was cheap steel knockoffs ( which i am going to call them about today) the muffler 's baffling is vibrating inside of it and it sounds like crap. the hanger they sent starting rusting after a week, i have since welded good hangers on . i bought it in august and have regretted it since. i sure wish i would have got the SS setup from cattman

 

how much does a dynomax muffler cost?? i can't seem to find a price on their website....where can i buy it??

 

You have to call up one of their "dealers", but they are pretty cheap as far as I can recall. I think the Dynomax superturbo goes for around $50. You'd have to get a tip for it separately though.

Go HERE for muffler information:

http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php?MaximaMufflers


Go HERE for some actual prices on the dynomax mufflers:

http://store.summitracing.com/evendor.asp?N=120+400358

 

I Have The Warpspeed Everything.y-pipe All The Way Back. I Love Mine. I Didnt Have To Remove The Metal Bar And I Never Had A Buzzing Sound Ever. I Also Have The Quiet Muffler That They Sell And I Agree That It Hangs Kinda Low But I Made It Look Sweet By Buying A Tip That Points Up On A Slight Angle. You Can Not Hear My Muffler Over My Cold Air Intake Thats How Quiet It Is.if You Dont Mind Messing Around W/ Diffrent Muffler Tips I Would Reccomend This Exhaust. Its Awseome In My Opinion. Get The Stainless Y-pipe, Hi-flow Cat, 2.5inch B-pipe And The Quiet Muffler They Sell If You Buy From Them. Just Make Sure That If You Dont Install It Yourself That You Take It To Someone Who Will Do A Nice Job And Not 1/2 *** It Because Then You May Run Into Problems.

 

Here's another interesting site comparing muffler types. Their test vehicle is a 1991 Mustang, but you definitely get a flavor for some of the differences between brands.

http://racetruck.tripod.com/muffler.html
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Larry, I very much like most of my Warpspeed cat-back. My problem with the muffler is only in the looks department. I agree that it is quiet (but still grumbly enough to enjoy revving it up a little) and seems to have good exhaust flow.

I spoke with Dallas on the phone and he told me that he was working with the maker of that muffler to design one that was wider, but lower in profile so it would tuck under the car better. He also described how he flow tested and sound tested 30+ mufflers on the maxima before choosing this one for it's excellent flow characteristics (flow-meter tested) and top sound-dampening ability.

Like I said, the only place it comes up short is in looks! Mine hangs too low, I cannot get it centered, and it also sticks out a little farther from the bumper than I'd ideally like. I think you'd have to go to a muffler place and get one custom fit if you wanted it to look really good (so you'd have to go with one of the name brands, like dynomax).

 

thanx everyone who helped me with the question that i had especially TrackSmart i think i'll get everything except muffler from warpspeed. for the muffler, i'm gonna buy dynomax superturbo from summitracing. how much of discount would they give me if i mention about the .org? just curious. i'll probably get all of these next week and have them installed next weekend when i don't work. i'll get back with the result after full exhaust installation. thanx again

 

their muffler so far has been my favorite part....when I didn't know what muffler to get, dallas informed me of the new quiet clone muffler....so he had me call back in a week and let me hear the muffler in action over the phone with a decibel meter reading from different places while his buddy revved the engine a little.....he also did tell me that they flow tested this muffler to flow better than the greddy, apexi, and magnaflow....!!! I was skeptical at 1st, but when I put it on after my y pipe, cat, and b pipe from WSP, it revved noticeably cleaner and got rid of the putt-putt sound from my extremely restrictive stock 4th gen muffler!!! can't believe how quiet it is, yet puts out great, rich, clean sound...and that is coming from a guy who has heard all the different exhaust setups in person on other max's!!! at every local car meet....I have other max's tellin me how awesome the exhaust sounds (aside from a cattman header setup) and they ask how can they get such an exhaust/sound....

couldn't be happier with how quiet and how sonorous/pure the muffler sounds...it really compliments their other products!!! still want to get cattman headers though and see what they sound like...!LOL

 

I have had problems with warpspeed also. The b pipe is gay its banging against the chasis. The muffler it self sux even tho its magnaflow so do not do the mistake
do it right the first time. Go Cattman or Greddy. Cant go wrong with those 2. Havent heard any complains about them yet but only good remarks.

 

Glad to be of help!

You might want to buy the muffler from the place that will be installing it (assuming they carry dynomax mufflers or another line of mufflers that you like). The reason I say this is because no matter who you get the y-pipe and b-pipes from there always seems to be some variation in fitment. I've heard this from people with Cattman, Budget, and Warpspeed on these forums.

By getting the muffler through the muffler shop you will probably pay $20 more for the part, but you will be assured of getting the size that fits best.

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If you look through the Dynomax catalog they have a very large assortment of sizes that they sell. The company selling you the part (in this case summit-racing) will only be able to recommend a size BASED ON THE STOCK EXHAUST dimensions, not on the dimensions of your aftermarket parts! They don't know the exact dimensions of the Warpspeed parts.

For instance, my warpspeed b-pipe is actually slightly longer than the stock b-pipe. Because of this, my muffler tip extends a full inch past the bumper instead of ending at the end of the bumper where it would look nice and neat. And this is from a muffler sized by Warpspeed themselves!

I could be completely wrong in this matter (someone correct me if that is the case) but I wish I had bought my muffler through a shop and had them put it onto my b-pipe for me. Would have been worth the extra couple of bucks because they would have been obligated to ensure perfect fitment!

Instead, there was nothing they could do about my setup without costing me significant money. The curve of the b-pipe was too close to where the muffler attaches for them to just cut an inch off of the b-pipe. They'd have to cut off my muffler tip and put a shorter one on to fix the length problem.

My muffler tip is also off-center (compared to the cutout in the bumper). They would have to torch the Warpspeed hangers off and put new hangers on to center it perfectly (also expensive).

So between those two things, it would have cost me the same as a new muffler. So I left the imperfections alone...

 

Agreed. The sound and flow are good, but for me at least the fitment was poor! It's not 100% their fault. It's hard to fit a muffler to a car in New York when you are sitting in Arizona! Also, it's not the sleekest looking muffler compared to others on the market.

 

i'm getting their 2-1/2" exhaust system except the muffler and the dynomax superturbo i ordered last night is 2-1/2" as well. so i hope i won't have any fitment issue.

 

well....I would rather have something that doesn't fit perfect and work at it till it does sit perfect, then have something that sounds really ricey and is super loud and sounds like crap!!! at least the fitment I could work on whereas the sound I would be able to open up the muffler and change it! with my WSP setup, I did it myself, then took it to a couple of different exhaust shops all recommended by friends which all took my money and didn't really fix anything....

until one day, I got fed up and just took it to the closest midas shop....and I looked around the shop and looked for the guy that is the perfectionist....asked him to look at my car and an hour later of cutting and welding, it was absolutely perfect!!! he told me that all the other exhaust shops did more harm then good which made his work a lot harder than it needed to be...looking at what the other shops did...moral of the story, if I had taken it to a proper shop with a perfectonist in the first place...I would not had to go through all the hassle....

I have heard the greddy, apexi, cattman, magnaflow, and dynomax in person...the best sounding by far is the apexi, and cattman, apexi being the best...but then I heard the new WSP muffler and absolutely fell in love with it.......it had it all, good flow, silence, and sound...just wish it fit like the other companies, but for the price, you can't ask for perfect everything!! also, I live in socal so rust through is not an issue, but I am sure it wouldn't anyway...

I still would like to hear my high flow cat, resonated mandrel b pipe and WSP muffler with the cattman headers though...!! they are just too much for me right now...

 

Yeah I Guess The Reason I Give The Warp Speed Set Up So Much Credit Is Because I Work In A Shop And Was Able To Kind Fenangle W/ It To Get It To Be Perfect. The Warpspeed Exhaust Is Awsome In Everyway. Quality, Price, Longevity, Fitment And Sound. So As Long As You Can Get Someone Who Actually Cares To Do It Properly And Adjust It To Make It Fit Right. I Have To Admit That I Pulled My Car In 2 Or 3 Times To Adjust The Exhaust In Order To Get It To Fit Right But Since Then Its Been Very Sweet.

 

Your list is almost correct. Everything is good *except for the fitment.* Like you said, you had to bring your car into the shop 2-3 times to get it fitted nicely. I might attempt this myself at some point, but it kills me to pay some shop $100+ to fix the fitment of my exhaust.

Of course, there's no way that I could have gotten a full exhaust system for so little money. So maybe paying an extra $100+ to a muffler shop isn't such a big deal...

Overall I am very happy with my exhaust system (minus the fitment of the muffler).

 

so i got my exhaust system installed last sat. it was $250 with the muffler tip but i got $35 off discount so i paid $215 total. the b-pipe and the muffler wouldn't fit right without cutting about 1 - 1 1/2 off of b-pipe and the muffler. maybe if i bought the muffler from warpspeed, it might've had better fitment without cutting them off a little. anyway, the sound is decent but sometimes it sounds ricey to me. maybe i'll have to give it some time to settle down or something along with the y-pipe that is causing a bit of vibration.

 

friend bought 3" system from them their muffler was too loud so he went with a flowmaster i forget which series

 

I suggest the whole budget exhaust with Flowmaster 40 series muffler. Sounds monstrous

 

any pic of the bad fitment issues?

 

anybody know how much of hp gain i get from these? y-pipe, hi-flow cat, b-pipe with resonator and muffler (dynomax turbo)

 

don't have pics.....if you're asking me

 

estimated hp gains for each part on maxmods...

i got the quiet catback... the first place that put it on put the curved pipe in backwards so that made the tip not line up at all, but i took it to a new show that centered it up right, yeah, it hangs a TAD bit low, but its clean, not ricey at all...

im eventually going to replace it, but for the price can't beat it... i will get pics of the tip centered right tomorrow...

 

it's very quiet too!!! and not ricey at all....I am glad I got the resonated b pipe...made the quiet muffler from WSP even more silent and clean sounding...it sounds best in cabin...if you don't let the intake over-power the exhaust note...like half throttle and let it run up the rpm's on the streets....sounds similar to the cattman header setup, just quieter I think...

 

ok thanx

 

yeah, my intake is louder than the muffler