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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Has anyone done this before with their intake?

I had to dremel out some of the ribs from the intake box and dremel the hole for the MAF adapter to fit. I am using a cold air intake filter, so its a little smaller and it fits perfect. I wanted to put my intake back to stock and I think this will work pretty good. Total cost was $20.


Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Seeing how I'm about to replace my airfilter, I'm curious too! Nice mod. Curious if it will be as effective...
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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very creative!
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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I think I have seen it done before, but maybe not exactly like that. Cool idea, don't know if there would be an advantage or not, but cool none the less
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Pics from the top would be good.

How's the noise level? It's almost like a GAB for the 5.5g

Good thing is it keeps the airdam in front still active... kind of.

Dynos would be nice if you knew someone at the shop, other than that the gains are probably not worth the time spent at the dyno.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Dyno? Just for that? I still have not installed it yet, I am installing my headers/y-pipe tomorrow. I'll post pictures tomorrow of everything installed.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Hmmm....looks nice but I don't think its gonna do any better or worse than a regular K&N panel filter. The only reason why the cone is designed that way is to pull in as much air (hopefully cool air) around it as possible. With the air filter box enclosing it, its only going to pull in air thru the snorkel which is exactly what a panel filter will do inside the box.

BTW, this is very similar to the volant design...cone air filter inside a box. The only difference is that there is a tube which would somehow attach to a fender where cool air can be drawn thru and into the air intake system.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Hmmm....looks nice but I don't think its gonna do any better or worse than a regular K&B panel filter. The only reason why the cone is designed that way is to pull in as much air (hopefully cool air) around it as possible. With the air filter box enclosing it, its only going to pull in air thru the snorkel which is exactly what a panel filter will do inside the box.
but it wont be sucking up air from the engine bay anymore. My filter used to get like 100+ degrees in the hot houston weather.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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I agree, and so does the regular OEM filter. BTW, I have this set up in my truck. The cone filter is inside the box and can be accessed thru the plate atop the filter box. The round ribbed opening you see in the photo mates with a stock opening in the passenger-side inner fender where cool air flows thru when the vehicle moves. The difference in response and power is night and day, noise isn't as overwhelming as a CAI or HAI or hybrid intake.

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but it wont be sucking up air from the engine bay anymore. My filter used to get like 100+ degrees in the hot houston weather.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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I just didn't want a midpipe/pop intake anymore. And it will be a lot quiter above 3000 rpm.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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i wish someone would make like a ice man cold air intake which used something very close to a stock airbox seup but with less obstructions in the way plus it has 2 ways of air coming into the intake.
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Well consider yours as a pop intake in a box, w/o the noise but the same draw of air as the OEM one.

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I just didn't want a midpipe/pop intake anymore. And it will be a lot quiter above 3000 rpm.
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A "Pop in a Box"
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thats a small airfilter..
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Sounds like "Jack in a Box".

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A "Pop in a Box"
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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But it's really "pop in a box"
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i dont see any point in this sorry
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by S103100F
i dont see any point in this sorry
I didn't do it to make power. I wanted a quite more enjoyable ride. But I am going to dyno with my headers and I will see if it hurts me or see if it improves for me. Plus when I oprn my hood and I want it to seem stock.
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I was teh same way, but I just put the ENTIRE stock intake on, from the radiator to the TB. Much smoother, and obviously quieter.

Did you have a Y-pipe before? And a dyno to go with it?
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but wouldnt the stock one have more filter area hence more air going in?
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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I think K&N panel filter in stock airbox would be better.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Personally, I think there's no difference despite filter size, cone or panel, because either one will see the same volume of air inside the airbox. At least this is what I am thinking but not sure if I'm 100% accurate. I'm going to mod the oem box in mine and no its not the hack mod either. I'll be using a K&N panel filter. And hopefully after my new struts/shocks go in, I'm doing Y-pipe next.

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but wouldnt the stock one have more filter area hence more air going in?
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I was teh same way, but I just put the ENTIRE stock intake on, from the radiator to the TB. Much smoother, and obviously quieter.

Did you have a Y-pipe before? And a dyno to go with it?
no y-pipe before and I am putting the entire stock intake on except the resonator box.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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I like it for the uniquness. But i doubt its any different from stock or a panel filter
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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hmm, im sure there is some physics to this here problem, but im gonna just make a custom intake through the bumper with the filter element exposed to straight outside air.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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I think you'd get a more accurate comparison between stock vs. non-stock by putting the resonator box back in since that is part of the stock system. Then take it out and put your aftermarket setup and dyno again. If you are comparing filter elements, panel vs. cone, inside the air box then you should leave the resonator box in for both tests that way your comparison is more accurate. There's a dyno in here comparing stock vs. frankencar hybrid intake (with midpipe, I think) and there's a noticeable loss (in dyno) in HP/TQ with the hybrid setup. Butt dyno, not sure if you can feel the difference, I probably won't. Having the midpipe will only give you more noise at WOT. Not sure if you've seen that, its in a thread somewhere in the 4th gen forum.

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no y-pipe before and I am putting the entire stock intake on except the resonator box.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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cool idea. must not be as loud as a regular cai though...
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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It's really not a CAI so you can't compare the noise. I don't think there will be much noticeable noise from the cone, inside the box. You can only make a stock airbox louder when you hack it even with stock filter element. Plus the noise from the CAI and hybrid is because of the midpipe. The air turbulence is what's causing the noise at WOT.

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cool idea. must not be as loud as a regular cai though...
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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I wonder if that would work for a 5th gen...
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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but it wont be sucking up air from the engine bay anymore. My filter used to get like 100+ degrees in the hot houston weather.
So where is gonna be sucking the air from? The filter is still in the engine bay so the air temp will be the same except less of it will be getting through, at least that's what it looks like.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Great idea!!! I had been debating on doing that for years.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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looks good, good work, and dave, pics of the new car?
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ALC252DM
I think you'd get a more accurate comparison between stock vs. non-stock by putting the resonator box back in since that is part of the stock system. Then take it out and put your aftermarket setup and dyno again. If you are comparing filter elements, panel vs. cone, inside the air box then you should leave the resonator box in for both tests that way your comparison is more accurate. There's a dyno in here comparing stock vs. frankencar hybrid intake (with midpipe, I think) and there's a noticeable loss (in dyno) in HP/TQ with the hybrid setup. Butt dyno, not sure if you can feel the difference, I probably won't. Having the midpipe will only give you more noise at WOT. Not sure if you've seen that, its in a thread somewhere in the 4th gen forum.
I am going to have the resonator box that connects to the IACV and the crankcase vent but not the resonator box. There is another one before the filter that is there to make the intake quiter. I'll post pictures today.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 04:54 AM
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So where is gonna be sucking the air from? The filter is still in the engine bay so the air temp will be the same except less of it will be getting through, at least that's what it looks like.
I am going to use everything from the stock intake includin the air dam thing that is connected to the radiator support, so the cold air will b coming from there.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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I believe he's putting the snorkel back in so that's where the air is coming from. I think he already answered it...oh well.

Originally Posted by DAVE Sz
So where is gonna be sucking the air from? The filter is still in the engine bay so the air temp will be the same except less of it will be getting through, at least that's what it looks like.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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uhm okay.. so whats the point of the box? creative yes.. but worth it no. might as well just throw it on the adapter without the box. btw a k&n panel filter would be better than a cone filter in a box, cone filters are not made for boxes. but it looks hot for a nice stock look.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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I just put the "bottom" scoop back in, the one that connects to the intake above the radiator. I am running a MonsterFlow and it is open to the top. I ran it this way initially till my son wanted the MonsterFlow and the cone replacement wouldn't fit with the bottom piece in place, so back to the MonsterFlow. After the change to a papercone filter, I noticed "misfiring" and no codes, under WOT. Not getting that now.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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I think this is an ingenuis idea I am gonna try this very soon, i think this setup with a hacked air box would def be benifetially being your blocking heat some what def very nice way to do things and still sleeper.
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I've never gotten my car dynoed but I have an intake project that I'm going to do in a few weeks. I want to do 2 runs, one with my current pop-charger setup (no midpipe) and one with the new setup. What's the going rate on dynoes these days?
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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in houston if your lucky you can get 2 runs for $35. And an hour of dyno for $100.



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