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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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is it my tranny??

after i installed my stage 1 clutch and i drove the car for about 800 miles with it, the car felt normal and everything was working good but 3 days ago i start noticing that its realy hard to put it in gear now even though my clutch is all the way to the ground, i mean some times it does it and sometimes it i doesnt, and i was driving on the freeway doing about 75 MPH and i put it in nutral then i try it to put it back in fifth gear and it didnt want to go at all in the gear and the same with 4th too, so i had to rev it to like 3500 RPM and it went in but it was hard still. did this happen to anyone of u guys, can someone help.

ohh i forgot to minsion that my car has 147K on it and thats my 2ND stage 1 clutch.

thanks alot for ur time.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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Check your clutch master cylinder to see if the clutch fluid is at max level. You could have a leak in the system or your clutch slave cylinder is on its way out. As far as you being locked out of putting the car in gear at 75 mph when your engine speed is <1K rpm sounds normal to me. I believe what you are trying to do is bad for the syncros. I've never road around "casually" in neutral. I only put mine in neutral if I am at a dead stop or almost at a complete stop.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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but the thing is i tried that befor at 75 mph and it went in easy with not prob and this time it would go in at all and it will lock up the whole gear box even i was on the street and it was getting hard to put it in gear gear.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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I've had a similar problem with mine too. I have a 97 SE with 67k miles on it. I have noticed it when i am shifting into 2nd and 3rd gear. It doesn't always happen, but it occasionally does and I've been wondering the same thing. I really have to pull hard to shift into 2nd sometimes...its like it doesnt want to go. I just bout my car about 1000 miles ago, but as far as i know i still have the original clutch and all, so i doubt its your new clutch. If you find out what the problem is, please let me know.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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ill let u know as soon as i find out
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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check for leaks in the master or slave cylinder. Usually, its in the slave cylinder. You would want to replace that asap, but in the mean time, if the fluid is low in the master, fill it up with DOT3 brake fluid to the top and bleed the system and see if that cures it.

Do you hear a crumble when you press on the clutch? If you do, it could be your throwout bearing.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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i dont hear anything when i push the cluch in all the way, but it feels lose kind of when i push it in and before it touches the ground it start getting harder and the weired thing is when i put it in 1st and the clutch is all the way in the car start chaking alittle bit and it start rolling slowly that mean the cluch is engaged already right?? how could that happen and iam on it all the way its the 1st time it did that
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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i have same problem. i think its related to the clutch fluid, cuz everytime i have it bled and replace the fluid shifting is much better for liek 2 or 3 days. i already replaced the slave cylinder and lower clutch hose tho and my mechanic says that was the only leak so i dunno
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hovz
i have same problem. i think its related to the clutch fluid, cuz everytime i have it bled and replace the fluid shifting is much better for liek 2 or 3 days. i already replaced the slave cylinder and lower clutch hose tho and my mechanic says that was the only leak so i dunno
You might have to change your master cylinder.

S15, have you checked your fluid yet? Do so if not, otherwise we're just going to throw out endless possibilities and get no where. If your clutch is all the way down and the car still moves (assuming your on a level surface) then yes, your clutch is already engaging. If your not out of fluid, then you might have to adjust your clutchh pedal (4th gen how-to's)
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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is there anyway to check if the master cylinder has a leak tho? id hate to spend getting it fixed and find out it wasnt the problem.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Probably the slave cylinder. YOu are just going to have to go outside and take a close look at it. Look for leaks. Could also be a leaky clutch line also.

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i dont hear anything when i push the cluch in all the way, but it feels lose kind of when i push it in and before it touches the ground it start getting harder and the weired thing is when i put it in 1st and the clutch is all the way in the car start chaking alittle bit and it start rolling slowly that mean the cluch is engaged already right?? how could that happen and iam on it all the way its the 1st time it did that
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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slace cylinder and lower clutch hose were replaced within the last few hundred miles. both times shifting was alot better for 2 or 3 days. i ordered that SS clutch line last night from the deals thread. is that just a replacement for the lower clutch hose? where is the master cylinder located so i can look at it. any write ups on it? or common solutions? i just wanna fix this without breaking my wallet on wrong solutions.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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is there anyway to check if the master cylinder has a leak tho? id hate to spend getting it fixed and find out it wasnt the problem.
look around the Master and see if there is any fluids. Also check the line that runs from the master to the slave. That could have also sprung a leak.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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the master cylinder is inbtween the driver side strut and the firewall
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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thx for the pic man
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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i checked on the master cylinder this morning and it was completly empty. could this be the prob?
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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You are kidding right?

Originally Posted by S15 SR20DET
i checked on the master cylinder this morning and it was completly empty. could this be the prob?
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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dude i am seriouse its empty i am gunna go buy some oil for it. but can this effect anything?
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by S15 SR20DET
could this be the prob?
Obviously...

Grab a buddy and some DOT3 brake fluid and start bleeding. Click here for assistance. I would recommend buying a one man bleeder kit; I got one for like $3 at autozone but I still needed another person. Once you get pressure under the pedal again if you can start looking for leaks.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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How can you have a s/n like S15 SR20DET and ask if "an empty MC can cause your problem?"

Then say "i am gunna go buy some OIL for it".

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dude i am seriouse its empty i am gunna go buy some oil for it. but can this effect anything?
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Leak detection should already be clear. I'd search before bleeding IMHO

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Obviously...

Grab a buddy and some DOT3 brake fluid and start bleeding. Click here for assistance. I would recommend buying a one man bleeder kit; I got one for like $3 at autozone but I still needed another person. Once you get pressure under the pedal again if you can start looking for leaks.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Make sure you get synthetic oil instead of regular when you fill it back up. You don't want this to keep happening.





But seriously, S15, check around for fluid sweat (master cyl, slave cyl, hose from master to slave cyl, etc). From what I can gather, I take it when you say you "installed" your clutch, that means you had someone install it? Take it back to them and have them look at it.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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alot of my friends keep on telling me diffrent prob thats why i am confused.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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I had this same problem. I replaced my slave cylinder and the hose going to it and it fixed my problem. Make sure you replace all the copper washers when you do this as well. To get around for a little while just fill the system up with DOT 3 and bleed it. Once you find your leak are replace parts you will need to bleed the system again.

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alot of my friends keep on telling me diffrent prob thats why i am confused.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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For the love of god man. If there's no fluid in there then there is either a leak or the people who put the clutch in are totally incompetant. Let's pretend for a second that the fluid isn't the problem...you still need to refill/bleed the system if it was empty! Chances are good that when you start getting into this (attaching the bleeder to the slave and stuff) you're going to notice where the leak is. Maybe the dudes forgot to fill it, but I doubt it...there's probably a leak somewhere that you will find. You need the fluid (badly) anyway, so that's your first step. Once you get it full and bled if you haven't found the leak yet wipe everything off, hit the clutch a few times, leave it overnight, whatever, and then check for leaks again.

EDIT: It could be a bad master/slave cylinder but I'm not sure how you would find that out until you eliminate leaks/missing fluid as a possibility.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Let's pretend for a second that the fluid isn't the problem...you still need to refill/bleed the system if it was empty!
I heard no fluid in the master cyl adds like 22hp at the wheels
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2kev
I heard no fluid in the master cyl adds like 22hp at the wheels
not on the dyno, but you drop like .5 in the 1/4 because of all the weight you save..

I heard it was only like 3 lbs of weight, but since it was liquid and liquids are constantly shifting around that's like taking 70 lbs of solid stuff out of the car.. so aerodynamically you're much faster with no fluids in the car..
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Plz dont turn my thread into a joke, iknow my master cylinder was empty but i just found out this morning now i am gunna fix and see what happen. then ill let u guys know, thx for all the help everybody.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by S15 SR20DET
Plz dont turn my thread into a joke, ...
Oh, we didn't do that.... this post did that.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...7&postcount=18
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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look bro i am sure that u do some dumb stuff to, so stop acting smart
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