ok so i've got intake, headers, y, b pipe, hi flow cat, struts, springs, bars, camber kit, and some other misc. junk.

i want more power so where do i go from here?
I don't want a mevi or VI cuz i like my low end power, so what else can i do and still stay n/a

 

if im not mistaken the 00VI doesnt lose much or any low end, so you still may want to consider that. JWT or TS ecu upgrade and a UDP will give and free up some more hp

 

what blackmax kid said, other than that, thats about it unless you want to take out Power sterring to get more power, and other mods like that.

I'd say . . . SUPERCHARGE, I'm not a big fan of super chargers cause I hear of belts snapping all the time, but its soo much cheaper than Turbo, but Turbos are better (In my opinion)

 

UDP would brng out some mroe powa.

They only other intake manifold option you have is to polish it, it might free up alittle air flow.

00 vi doesnt loose much low end but its a P.I.T.A. to install from what ive read.

 

Ecu..........

 

AEBS stroker kit

 

Ummm...if you haven't noticed that's for the 3.5. Even if he had a 3.5 it costs so much he might as well go boosted.

 

what about one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=42604























lol jk

 

oh no not those again

 

You could go with some its cheaper than turbo or superchargers.

 

indeedy doo

 

I don't think its the serpentine belt per say. From what I heard, the s/c pulley is made out of plastic. Also the s/c install manual says about stock belt tensioner pulley being known to melt. Anyone of these goes and there goes the belt too. Get a good aftermarket metal s/c pulley and aluminum belt tensioner pulley and you shouldn't have to worry about anything.

 

ECU hands down, you wont find any better and easier NA power.

 

I haven't been following any of the ECU discussions but I read from the sticky to avoid JET ECU. What is highly recommended then for NA application? I vaguely remember seeing something about Technosquare somewhere.

 

JWT ECU or Technosquare ECU. If you want to get a MEVI go JWT.
I saw the best gains of any mod when I went JWT ECU.
BTW, did you happen to notice/dyno the gains from the headers?

 

JWT or Technosquare

 

Belts snapping all the time? NOt in my 100k of boost

 

heres the rest of your to do list
reduce wieght
udp
jwt ecu
00vi
pf tb
port heads
bore or engine swap

 

i appreciate all of your input
spaniard: i haven't had the chance to put the headers on as of yet but maybe i'll run a dyno before and after and if so i'll post the results

 

Go to the track

 

Too much misinformation here, I agree with that though ^ ^ ^

 

I'd love to know the results- Not that I can afford em or the install (not gonna do it myself) but still I'd love to know the results.

 

BWAHAHAHAHHAHA

You can run a 75shot dry.. (i hate dry, but its cheap) for 1/2 the cost of an ECU...

Nitrous is by far the cheapest way to go fast......

 

Lightened flywheel frees up engine weight and therefore horsepower.

UDP is a must.

ECU is $550 ... not bad for ~20HP ... don't you guys know what Audi guys pay for mods? How's $1200 for downpipes only???

Lighter wheels. Mazda Millenia 16" stock wheels are 15lb each I think (for example).

CF hood/trunk lid. These parts allow you to keep your spare/jack/passenger seat, etc while saving weight. i.e. more practical than driving around without all that stuff

STS - If you have a 5MT, this is "virtual" horsepower. Shorter throws mean faster shifts which means faster times.

 

I agree on the ECU, however I called Technosquare the other day and asked for an ecu upgrade for my 96 Maxima. The lady told me they stopped making ecu's for Maxima's.

To the guy that said to get nitrous - he said the he want's to stay n/a

-Paul

 

LSD transmission. Might not add more power, but might give you better track times.

 

bump ECU

10 char

 

NA power... cheat juice doesnt count

 

3.5 swap! or 00VI

 

UDP is not a must and is a waste of money for the most part

ECU is more along the lines of 10-15

The millenia rims are 15's and 11lbs. But ugly as hell and the offset is really bad. Could never run them on a daily basis, plus they are only 6" wide. Good track rims but that is about it.

If a person knows how to shift quickly and correctly then a a STS is not going to make you faster.

I think you got the rest of it right though

 

The weight to HP ratio at his level... CF stuff isn't going to make him "faster", nor are the wheels.... Granted you get less rotating mass w/ the wheels.. but nothing serious.

And I do think he said power..... weight reduction sure as heck isnt to get him numbers on a dyno

My .02

 

If you want to go faster and remain N/A, the UDP is a good mod. According to any physics book, it works.

ECU HP ... that's my bad, no research - was trying to recall from the top of my head.

Milennia rims were only for an example. They're simply FUGLY, but the weight difference is even greater than I thought which means that he would gain even more on the strip. There are many other 16" - 17" wheels you can get that are very light (SSR Comps come to mind) that aren't fugly.

STS will DEFINITELY help ANYONE get faster times. I don't care how fast or perfect you think you shift with the stock p/u truck shifter. If you reduce the throw at all, that makes for a faster perfect shift. Again, physics.

 

Fast is a function of HP/weight ratio. Sure he asked for more "power", but given his mods, there aren't many things left for him to do N/A. Its safe to assume someone looking for power isn't just looking to impress people at the dyno shop, but also on the street and at the track.

That said, the CF stuff will help him be faster. The lighter rims will also help him be faster, and perhaps more than the CF stuff. As you point out, you are lowering the rotating mass of the wheel, this is probably going to be MORE beneficial than the weight saved with CF body parts, depending on the weight of the rim.

See the tire and wheel weight section of SteVTEC's article here.

 

udp is paper weight(but an option)
flywheel if 5 speed
vb mod if auto
pathfinder throttlebody mod
jwt or ts ecu
mevi
cams
since you did suspension did u do mzmtg's rear strut mounts
upgrade clutch kit(again if 5 speed)
oil and/or trans cooler kit
i'll try to think of more ways to spend ur money

 

LMAO ... We're all pretty good at that!

 

Sure it works. But it doesn't help a car accelerate faster an appreciable amount. Like Stephen Max explained a few months ago, the UDP will of course allow the engine to rev faster in neutral, because it reduces the rotating mass of the accessories a good amount. But when you put the car in gear and the mass of the transmission and wheels are brought into the equation, it's effect is FAR FAR FAR less.

Cliff notes: waste of $$

 

I think it's important to revert back to what I heard someone said in one of these types of threads (I did a quick search, so I can't give proper credit where it's due), but it is important not to think of this bolt on by bolt on. You should have a finite end idea of where you want your car to go. Any and every mod helps no matter how much or how little. All mods compound to equal one great modification. Cat-back will not benefit you as greatly on it's own as it does when teamed with a Y-Pipe. This is not to say the mod is worthless on its own, but certainly the best gains will not be seen until the whole exhaust is done. You can put a SC on a totally stock car and not see near the gains you will once you get a full exhaust.

That said, you admit the UDP has gains. That's all I was saying. Is it a waste of money? I don't think so if you're looking for that extra nose lead on the car you're racing in the 1/4 mi. Is it practical for everyone to get? Certainly not. I'm not praising it for adding 10HP, because it won't ... but every little bit counts.

So many h8ers on this board. Everytime I come back to the .org after taking a break, it makes me have more respect for those who don't take a break and still come back day after day. So many people making generalized statements with nothing to back it up ... why not post some links to other threads where it was spoken about intelligibly, or speak intelligibly about it yourself. Don't just say "waste of money for the most part". It is either a waste of money or it isn't ... there is no "for the most part".

 

i concur, udp doesn't do much, but if you can pick one up for cheap, you can always do it just for the sake of the modding addiction.

 

Here ya go smart guy.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=UDP

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=UDP

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=UDP

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ight=STS+1%2F4

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ight=STS+1%2F4

 

Wow, a moderator with attitude. A great way to make this board productive.

Those links provided nothing definitive. Physics still stands. Just because one guy couldn't get faster times (with a notchy B&M shifter) doesn't mean STS isn't effective. It means the B&M shifter, if notchy, isn't effective. Additionally, just because one guy's car didn't run any faster in the 1/4 with the UDP than without, doesn't mean it makes no difference with every car/driver, etc. I'll stick with physics.

Thanks for being abrasive and a smart***. You are supposed to be someone people can look up to here.