where to go from here?
Originally Posted by CarbonDreams95
ok, you guys are welcome to keep fighting back and forth here but i think i'm gonna save up and do the 00VI and JWT ECU so i've made my decision... appreciate everyone's input
you should like that combo.
Originally Posted by Big_Ham
I think it's important to revert back to what I heard someone said in one of these types of threads (I did a quick search, so I can't give proper credit where it's due), but it is important not to think of this bolt on by bolt on. You should have a finite end idea of where you want your car to go. Any and every mod helps no matter how much or how little. All mods compound to equal one great modification. Cat-back will not benefit you as greatly on it's own as it does when teamed with a Y-Pipe. This is not to say the mod is worthless on its own, but certainly the best gains will not be seen until the whole exhaust is done. You can put a SC on a totally stock car and not see near the gains you will once you get a full exhaust.
That said, you admit the UDP has gains. That's all I was saying. Is it a waste of money? I don't think so if you're looking for that extra nose lead on the car you're racing in the 1/4 mi. Is it practical for everyone to get? Certainly not. I'm not praising it for adding 10HP, because it won't ... but every little bit counts.
So many h8ers on this board. Everytime I come back to the .org after taking a break, it makes me have more respect for those who don't take a break and still come back day after day. So many people making generalized statements with nothing to back it up ... why not post some links to other threads where it was spoken about intelligibly, or speak intelligibly about it yourself. Don't just say "waste of money for the most part". It is either a waste of money or it isn't ... there is no "for the most part".
P.S.- In this case a 1-2 HP (if even that) gain can be considered negligible.
Originally Posted by Big_Ham
Wow, a moderator with attitude. A great way to make this board productive.
Those links provided nothing definitive. Physics still stands. Just because one guy couldn't get faster times (with a notchy B&M shifter) doesn't mean STS isn't effective. It means the B&M shifter, if notchy, isn't effective. Additionally, just because one guy's car didn't run any faster in the 1/4 with the UDP than without, doesn't mean it makes no difference with every car/driver, etc. I'll stick with physics.
Thanks for being abrasive and a smart***. You are supposed to be someone people can look up to here.
Those links provided nothing definitive. Physics still stands. Just because one guy couldn't get faster times (with a notchy B&M shifter) doesn't mean STS isn't effective. It means the B&M shifter, if notchy, isn't effective. Additionally, just because one guy's car didn't run any faster in the 1/4 with the UDP than without, doesn't mean it makes no difference with every car/driver, etc. I'll stick with physics.
Thanks for being abrasive and a smart***. You are supposed to be someone people can look up to here.
1. You posted misinformation
2. I corrected you
3. You asked for threads on the topic
Originally Posted by Big_Ham
why not post some links to other threads where it was spoken about intelligibly
5. You are wrong
Originally Posted by nismology
Sure it does something. But it provides no gains in the 1/4 mile. If you like the way it looks installed, fine. But it claiming it does something appreciable is unfounded. Maybe you have money to waste...
Doesn't decrease ET's or raise trap speeds. If i got it for free maybe i'd...
I didn't say "for the most part". I just said it's a waste of money, period. It's up to you to prove that it shows appreciable gains. It's not up to me to prove that it doesn't. You're the one throwing $$ around plus a PITA install...
P.S.- In this case a 1-2 HP (if even that) gain can be considered negligible.
Doesn't decrease ET's or raise trap speeds. If i got it for free maybe i'd...
I didn't say "for the most part". I just said it's a waste of money, period. It's up to you to prove that it shows appreciable gains. It's not up to me to prove that it doesn't. You're the one throwing $$ around plus a PITA install...
P.S.- In this case a 1-2 HP (if even that) gain can be considered negligible.
Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
1. You posted misinformation
2. I corrected you
3. You asked for threads on the topic
4. I provided what you wanted
5. You are wrong
2. I corrected you
3. You asked for threads on the topic
4. I provided what you wanted
5. You are wrong
Everything else you provided in your threads was alternate, conjectural content, not corrections. There was nothing definitive in any of them.
Originally Posted by Big_Ham
The only misinformation I posted was the net gains of an ECU upgrade. I quickly admitted my lack of research on gains when I posted and I thank you for correcting that.
Everything else you provided in your threads was alternate, conjectural content, not corrections. There was nothing definitive in any of them.
Everything else you provided in your threads was alternate, conjectural content, not corrections. There was nothing definitive in any of them.
Originally Posted by Big_Ham
Lightened flywheel frees up engine weight and therefore horsepower.
UDP is a must.
ECU is $550 ... not bad for ~20HP ... don't you guys know what Audi guys pay for mods? How's $1200 for downpipes only???
Lighter wheels. Mazda Millenia 16" stock wheels are 15lb each I think (for example).
CF hood/trunk lid. These parts allow you to keep your spare/jack/passenger seat, etc while saving weight. i.e. more practical than driving around without all that stuff
STS - If you have a 5MT, this is "virtual" horsepower. Shorter throws mean faster shifts which means faster times....
UDP is a must.
ECU is $550 ... not bad for ~20HP ... don't you guys know what Audi guys pay for mods? How's $1200 for downpipes only???
Lighter wheels. Mazda Millenia 16" stock wheels are 15lb each I think (for example).
CF hood/trunk lid. These parts allow you to keep your spare/jack/passenger seat, etc while saving weight. i.e. more practical than driving around without all that stuff
STS - If you have a 5MT, this is "virtual" horsepower. Shorter throws mean faster shifts which means faster times....
You say a UDP is a must. Yet later you say that it does not do much but every bit helps.....yet it is a must?
You were wrong about the ECU
You were wrong about the millenia rims. I have my drag radials mounted on a set.
STS does not equal faster times. Practice with a stock shifter equals faster times. "Virtual HP"
If you can shift then you can shift with a STS or stock shifter. I showed you guys who ran no faster at the track with a STS, why don't you show me guys who did.The only thing you got right was the weight reduction through carbon fiber. So you were 1 for 5. Not a good average in either physics class or baseball.