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Old 01-29-2005, 11:19 PM
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oil filter absolutley will not come off

i have tried everything i can think of. apparently the people i had change my oil last time used the worng sized filter, now 4k miles later it WILL NOT COME OFF i mean i have tried EVERYTHING!!! WHAT THE CRAP CAN I DO. HELP ME GUYS
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:25 PM
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How about bringing it back to them and making them do it?
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well - take a screwdriver - stab the oil filter - through the side so that it goes all the way through and turn
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:38 PM
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try it after the engine is warm. it might help. or you can buy oil filter wrench or something like that. they are sold at all autpart stores and they are made for oil filters.

btw i think the oil filter UNSCREWS clock wise. IIRC its different than all the other screws. im not sure tho so correct me if im wrong
 
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Have you tried getting an oil filter wrench and a breaker bar?
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no, the filter unscrews counter clockwise
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If you take your pass side wheel off, you should be able to get in there and have better access to the oil filter. I would get a filter wrench, and go to town on it. The screwdriver works sometimes, but its a major gamble because if you cant get the filter off after you stab it, you cant operate the vehicle until the filter is replaced.
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:47 AM
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I never liked going all the way through with a screwdriver from fear of damaging the threads. What I've done when in this situation, is take a screwdriver and a hammer and tap it off; don't aim the screwdriver perpendicular to the filter, but on an angle that will make it rotate counter-clockwise...tap a few times with the hammer, and it should work it's way loose.


Hmm...that was harder to describe than I thought it would be.
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I do my own oil changes--why is there any question as to whether it unscrews counter-clockwise or not? I'm puzzled.

I think the best idea was to take it back to the people who did it. When you say wrong filter, I hope you feel that way just because of the size of the filter, not the fact that the threads did not match. Nissan has a tiny filter--I think two of them fit in my hand. That doesn't mean that an aftermarket has to be that small. If anything I'd think it costs more to mfg. it that small while having the same filtering capacity.

I've been able to take off the filter with Channel Locks very easily, and if there is any resistance I grab it harder and the filter ends up being dented. The pliers have plenty of bite which I don't use unless necessary. If you think that you are putting excessive force on it and it's not budging, I'd seriously suggest you leave it and have the jokers who installed it, remove it. There's a reason they say to hand tighten only. Good luck.
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take your car back to them
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i already stabbed thru it so cars disabled
and when i twisted with screwdriver..all id did was rip the filter...this is so freaking dumb guys im so pissed right now...BLAH
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none of the wrenches i have tried work..i went out and bought 3 of them at 2 am
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Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
When you say wrong filter, I hope you feel that way just because of the size of the filter, not the fact that the threads did not match. Nissan has a tiny filter--I think two of them fit in my hand. That doesn't mean that an aftermarket has to be that small.
no as in the one on the car is about..hmmm a 1/2 inch smaller it...seriously looks like it belongs on a lawn mower..
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Originally Posted by Charcoal95GXE
i already stabbed thru it so cars disabled
and when i twisted with screwdriver..all id did was rip the filter...this is so freaking dumb guys im so pissed right now...BLAH
Oh boy. I was afraid that you would rip the filter using the screwdriver method. Only thing I can think of now is spraying some PB Blaster and letting it sit for a bit before you give it another shot.

My filter wouldn't comeout on my last oil change so prayed some PB, let it sit for 15 min, sprayed some more, waited another 15 min and playing around w/ my filter, it came off.
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Originally Posted by Zeus97MAX
If you take your pass side wheel off, you should be able to get in there and have better access to the oil filter. I would get a filter wrench, and go to town on it. The screwdriver works sometimes, but its a major gamble because if you cant get the filter off after you stab it, you cant operate the vehicle until the filter is replaced.
yeah, this is what I had to do since im lowered and I didn't have anything to lift the car up with. Taking off the wheel was a pain. Then getting the filter out which was stuck. Took us 3 hrs to do a 15 min oil change, heh. We're the home of the three hour oil change. At least next time it should be easier to do...btw I use bosch filters and mobil 1
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That grip wrench with the rubber strap worked for me when mine was stuck. The one they used to sell on TV.
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Sounds like quite the ordeal. Let us know how it turns out. Good luck!
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Old 01-30-2005, 09:30 AM
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no no no. you guys all wrong what you do is you are gonna need teh jesus wrench it is gonna cost you it has a metal handel and a metal chain attached to it that tightens around oil filters, it as an oil filter wrench it will take anything off you need to look around my dad got ours along time ago it was sold by snapon for 60 bucks or so. that is why you probbaly cant get it off becuase some aholes tighten it on there with that wrench and screwed you becuase your only supppose to tighten it with your hand not a wrench being it is under vacume pressure.
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channel locks did it ..thanks I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!
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dont even freaking joke my baby face either.
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same thing happened to me before, couldnt get the filter off for the life in me. Posted on here got the same suggestions. Stabbed the filter still wouldnt come off.

Then I got frustrated, cleaned off the oily filter and my hands, and stabed with screw driver again and turned with the furry of the GODS and it finally stated to move, then used my hands the rest of the way. Last time I let the dealer change my oil.

glad it got off, frustrating wasnt it!
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Originally Posted by Charcoal95GXE
dont even freaking joke my baby face either.
I was going to ask if that was your little brother.
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Originally Posted by Charcoal95GXE
channel locks did it ..thanks I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!

thats you? wow you look 12!

j/k . . .
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Originally Posted by sterlingmaxima
it is under vacume pressure.
There is no vacuum in your engines lubracation system. The oil filter filters the oil that comes right out of the pump, under pressure.
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next time try a blow torch
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So was it cross threaded, stripped, or just on there REALLY REALLY tight? Any problems getting the new filter back on?
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no it is under vaume other wise it would never flow dude do you even know what your talking about.
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Old 01-30-2005, 12:13 PM
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Great! Glad you got it off. Now you'll be able to DIY from here on. The filter you have in your pic looks rather stubby, and maybe wider than the OEM. I always use OEM because I'm sure it will provide protection at least as good as what the car came with. Plus I get them 25% off list, which went up since last time......
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I thought there weren't too many threads out there. I know my Previa filter fits on my car, but the filter is huge. There are others saying toyota filters fits certain nissans. My volvo filter didn't fit my maxima, but after 1/2 turn it was obvious. I dunno how they coulda messed up your filter.

I'm glad you got it off. I always have my 18" channel lock w/me when I do my oil change. Usually I wear my grippy gloves and twist like a ****. Oh yeah, I take my wheel and plastic cover off too. PITA

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Originally Posted by sterlingmaxima
no it is under vaume other wise it would never flow dude do you even know what your talking about.

njmaxseltd knows exactly what he's talking about - it is under pressure - hence why it flows. There is a pump that pushes the oil - that's how it flows.
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i just got some painters tape, wrapped the oil filter with it for some grip. then just used my forearms
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for this EXACT reason, is why i went outside int he 32 degree weather, had snow on my back and changed my own oil and filter (also because i use synthetic so its less costly to do yourself).

i ran into a problem once with my dad's altima, he went to walmart and got it chagned and used a fram filter, the fram duragrip garbage has this black coating on the top and no filter wrench can get a grip on it. i wound up stabbign throguh the top of the filter so i idndt hit the threads. you gotta go all the way through othewrise itll rip it to pieces.
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are we forgetting about . . . Oil Pressure??? vacuum pressure

the oil cant just flow all around the engine on its own.
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durrrrrrr so it is under pressure hence a vaccume wow the org is usless have you have you ever read your chiltins or even understand the basic concept of physics.
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Originally Posted by sterlingmaxima
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durrrrrrr so it is under pressure hence a vaccume wow the org is usless have you have you ever read your chiltins or even understand the basic concept of physics.
It's been a while, but I remember p = f/a, and being told to imagine a bunch of molecules bouncing around inside a cube. The force at which they bounce off the walls being divided by the area of the walls is the pressure. Vacuum is a cube with nothing in it. You're kidding us, right?
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Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
It's been a while, but I remember p = f/a, and being told to imagine a bunch of molecules bouncing around inside a cube. The force at which they bounce off the walls being divided by the area of the walls is the pressure. Vacuum is a cube with nothing in it. You're kidding us, right?








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never mind a """cube"" go back an take physics 101
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WHy do we have little kids driving cars? I don't care if you're 16, if you look like a 6th grader you shouldn't be allowed to drive.
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dude it sounds like YOU need to take physics 101 - for the last time, its not ****ing vacuum, its pressure.... hence terms like... oil pressure sending unit..... if you don't believe me, try this, while you're car is running - go ahead and unbolt the oil pressure sending unit. Since you are OBVIOOUSLY right on this, there shouldnt be any oil coming out of there since it's under vacuum - then come back and post and tell me how it goes.
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what ever dude i am just gonna stop. i know there is oil pump since i have changed it on my friends crx.you need to read up on the basic physics of a combustion motor
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