Puppet Killer

I just got some 18' rims , and it needs a 1.5' or 2' drop. My question is how does the car feel after a drop? will it be smooth? or should i just save the money to get a Y-pipe

maxima_kenny96

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the ride should be smoother and more responsive, it will feel like it sticks to the road better...get the drop then go after the Y-pipe

Conrad283

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It depends on what type of roads you're driving on. Here in NYC I fell every little thing. Some people in the car say that the ride is a little rough. But I'm just used to it.

But bottom line. If you put 18's on on a stock suspension. There's going to be a huge wheel gap. So get the suspension and save forr y-pipe later on.

MaxGordon7

iTrader: (36)

yes drop first, then go y pipe. It looks so high on 18's without drop, all the money in the rims doesnt come thru til the drop.

99SEL4ME

Damn!! , you just got 18 foot rims AND you want a 1.5 foot and a 2 foot drop!!! Holy sh** dude, you'll have the lowest Max in the world, gaurenteed!! j/k lol, 18 inch is 18" and this> 18' is 18 feet. One mark is feet, and two marks is inches. Just messin' with ya man.

njmaxseltd

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The 18" rims and 40 series tire is going to cause a much harder ride then the sport spring setup alone.

eckohb

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yeah, dont even put the rims on yet til you get the drop. you can just get something basic, shouldnt be too expensive. otherwise you'll look like a 4x4

PAREDLINE

I don't agree with this. The spring/shock setup should be chosen carefully. If you throw generic ebay springs and ebay shocks on your car you risk a crappy ride or even worse, you risk safety.

I think as far as springs go, I wouldnt use anything other than Eibach or H&R.

And for struts, if you want a cheaper setup go with KYB GR2s or the blue Tokikos.

I personally have the Eibach and GR2 setup. Its not the same as factory at all. The ride is not smooth. You feel most bumps and ruts but when you take a sharp turn at 60mph the smile on your face is worth it. I'm also riding on 235/45/17s Nitto 555.

Again, this is my opinion. There have been others on the board with a setup that they felt was smoother.

eckohb

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well thats what i mean by basic. my bad. i went with eibach pro kit and kyb gr-2s. 500$ for both, and install was free by me. i appologize. i would never go with anything ebay that's performance-wise other than the intake.

i was just saying that going with dr-2 coilovers or the tokico illumina set was not necessary.

Puppet Killer

How much will some Eibach spring will cost me with installation? i think the eibcah cost something like $230. Is it possible for me to install them or do i need a special tool.
Do i really need th struts? Has anyone really done a 60mph turn on there daily driven car? How important is the struts?

eckohb

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you can go for awhile with eibach springs on your stock struts. you will eventually have to replace them though. i just did it all at once. i got my eibach springs for 250 shipped. im not sure what places would charge to install them, but it took me about 2 hours total to install the struts and springs. you can rent a spring compressor from Auto Zone which is what i did, and its really the only "special" tool that you would need.

PAREDLINE

You'll need a special tool. A spring compressor. You can get one cheap at Harbor Freight Tools or JC Whitney. If you dont have air tools I recommend you getting a 2 or 3 foot breaker bar. Sometimes the strut/spindle bolts are on there really tight and rusted.

I did this once without a spring compressor. I just used the car as a spring compressor and loosened the center nut before I jacked up the car. I dont recommend you doing this.

With the Eibach/GR2 setup you will not need a spring compressor to re-install the springs on the struts because the Eibach springs are shorter. Its just the removal of the stock springs from the stock struts that you need a compressor for.

I didnt mean that I do a 60 MPH 90 degree turn. I wouldnt be that dumb. Sometimes on on-ramps or off-ramps when everyone is slowing down you'll notice that your car holds the road much better and you can punch it if you feel like being a badass.

Dont do a regular turn at 60mph because you'll probably kill someone.

lilaclucymaxima

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i would do the suspension first, get the biggest thing out of the way. then a y-pipe, then rims

A Flood99

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you really shouldn't be modding your car

HomerMAC

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alll i can say is like HEMROIDS... hmm yea same as above.. i guess u can make it by without struts.. if you install some typ eof hovering technology.. which will keep ur car up.. cause i dont think springs alone will do it.. i don tknow.. im no expert though..


(ii know i probably spelled something wrong)

Stuntin' 101

first off, the words 18's, lowered, and smooth shouldnt even be allowed to be in the same sentence.. anyone that tells you his car is on 18" rims, eibach springs and kyb gr2's, and drives " smooth" is the last person to be giving advice. i would ban that person for even saying that.. lol..
your rim size/tire combo is gonna have the most affect. if you only want a mild drop, go with h&r's over eibach's. there only 30% stiffer compared to the 50% the eibachs are.. just think about that for one second here.. EIBACH SPRINGS ARE 50% STIFFER THAN THE ONES IN YOUR CAR. and on top of that kyb gr2's have to be the stiffest struts you can buy.. all that, with 18's.. and someone dared to call it smooth?? lmao

eckohb

iTrader: (4)

if hes got low miles, the eibach springs arent low enough of a drop to cause a severe problem. he could get by for 5-10k if his current struts are in good condition. but i'd suggest doing it all at once, because sooner or later, the struts will blow and youll have to do it all over again

Stuntin' 101

i dont understand whay anybody would even do that knowing there gonna blow.. especially if your paying someone to do the work.. if you dont have the money to buy struts now.. why the **** would you have this work done knowing your gonna have to pay for the entire install and allignment all over again.
your intsall and allignment is gonna cost an average of 250-380 at most shops.. why are gonna do it twice?

eckohb

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thats what im saying. but if he wants to putz around, he can. its his choice. maybe if he's doing it himself, but it doesnt seem that hes capable of doing so. my ride isnt smooth, i dunno who said that. i've got my stock rims, and the ride isnt bad, but its not smooth. i bought gr-2s with eibachs because they were cheap yet efficient

PAREDLINE

I still debate that you dont need an alignment if you change your springs and struts. The only thing adjustable on our cars are the toe and as long as you dont disrupt the tie rod ends, you wont need a toe adjustment.

I have heard of people saying their cambers are off. Seeing some of you, I could imagine you going nuts if your camber is off one degree and getting a camber kit. I don't think its worth it. And the camber kits never hold up anyway.

Stuntin' 101

yea i just ordered a camber kit for my car cause my passanger wheel is off by a lil more than 1 degree.. i mean for some people, you can definately live with it, but i cant deal with the car pulling to one side anymore.. im very **** about these stupid little things that all combine with each other and annoy the living **** outta me.. im gonna change the hole suspension again, and might even break down and buy a new control arm for the passanger side cause the drivers is new. might as well have new bushings on both sides and this would be the time to do it ya know. i just put in new hood struts today, and fixed my hood latch. my f-ckin hood was even rattling over bumps cause it wasnt tight when it was latched closed.