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Old 03-30-2005, 06:52 AM
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00 VI to 97'

I've read the better parts of the threads regarding this in the All Motor section, and there's still some things I'm unclear about.

I have a complete 00 block with everything, so all parts are available to me. Now I wanted to make this swap as painless as possible with no custom work, and if so, very little. So I wanted to know what parts from the 00 engine do I need to do this to keep EGR, IACV.... etc, functioning.

If someone can help me out here that would be great, or point me to some sort of write up, that would be even better

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If I had the engine I would just put that engine in there. There are different methods to choose from.
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One of the cylinders is cooked on the engine tho, so that's out....lol
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Any one have any idea what's involved here, or guide in the right direction?
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All motor forum will honestly help out, there are too many details to explain, just have gather all th bits and pieces from different threads
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
All motor forum will honestly help out, there are too many details to explain, just have gather all th bits and pieces from different threads
But is it even possible to make the swap a straight "bolt on" job if I have the 00 engine?
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Originally Posted by NOZMaximus
But is it even possible to make the swap a straight "bolt on" job if I have the 00 engine?
Won't be straight bolt on even with the whole motor. This is the way I did it, I bought the whole motor. It does make it easier, though. You still have to figure out what to do with the IACV. If you use the 5th gen IACV, it mounts on the bottom of the TB and hits the EGR valve. If you block off the 5th gen IACV hole and get an adapter plate to use the 4th gen IACV, you can keep your EGR intact by swapping the pipe that goes from the EGR valve to the bottom of the manifold. Either way you go, you're going to have to fabricate one piece or another.

Using the rear valve cover makes putting the PCV valve in easier.
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When you say the IACV hits the EGR valve, is that the 4th gen EGR? What if you use the 5th gen EGR system? Would that eliminate the conflict or are there other parts in the way?

EDIT: I don't know much yet about the 5th gen systems as I only have a 4th gen.
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Using the 5th gen EGR guide tube will solve the problem.

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Originally Posted by BSwithTF
Won't be straight bolt on even with the whole motor. This is the way I did it, I bought the whole motor. It does make it easier, though. You still have to figure out what to do with the IACV. If you use the 5th gen IACV, it mounts on the bottom of the TB and hits the EGR valve. If you block off the 5th gen IACV hole and get an adapter plate to use the 4th gen IACV, you can keep your EGR intact by swapping the pipe that goes from the EGR valve to the bottom of the manifold. Either way you go, you're going to have to fabricate one piece or another.

Using the rear valve cover makes putting the PCV valve in easier.

Great, thanks for the input, but when you say "If you use the 5th gen IACV, it mounts on the bottom of the TB and hits the EGR valve." Are you referring to the 4th GEN EGR Valve? If so, is it possible to use the 5th GEN EGR valve to avoid this problem?
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I'm reffering to the 4th gen EGR. The fifth gen EGR is electronically controlled, not vacuum controlled like the 4th gen. I don't think it would be possible to use the entire 5th gen EGR valve, just the pipe.
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Originally Posted by THT
Using the 5th gen EGR guide tube will solve the problem.

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So you don't need any sort of adaptor plate? And is this EGR situation the only problem faced to complete the swap without customizing?
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Originally Posted by THT
Using the 5th gen EGR guide tube will solve the problem.

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Using the 5th gen EGR tube does not solve the problem of the 5th gen IACV hitting the 4th gen EGR valve. If you don't use the 5th gen IACV, then yes it does solve the EGR problem.
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what do you guys do about the pvc valve on the back of the rear valve cover?
 
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here is how it starts http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...1_128_full.jpg
 
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something like this too.

 
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this happend earlier
 
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Wow the lack of interest in this topic is
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what about the ecu any problems with that ???anyone thanx
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Originally Posted by nismomax98
what about the ecu any problems with that ???anyone thanx
You can run it without it, but it is recommended to upgrade to an ECU with higher rev limiter (approx 7200) to take full advantage of the power you gain at the top end which is really felt at close to 5500RPM+
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so would i need the rmp switch also because of the VI or just the JWT ecu and im good i can make the adapter plate for the TB and the EGR i work in a machine shop
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Originally Posted by nismomax98
so would i need the rmp switch also because of the VI or just the JWT ecu and im good i can make the adapter plate for the TB and the EGR i work in a machine shop
You do need an RPM switch on the side. It has nothing to do with the ECU. You have to tap your RPM wire to make the switch work the VI.

Now tell me more about this EGR adaptor you speak of. Is it necessary? And I think if you use the 4th GEN TB, you don't need any sort of adaptor? Do you?
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its what kevlo911 did or something close to it
i havent made it yet i have the templete and some flat aluminum stock to use
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Originally Posted by nismomax98
its what kevlo911 did or something close to it
i havent made it yet i have the templete and some flat aluminum stock to use
But there is ways to achieve this swap without making an adaptor plate for the TB right?
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yes i belive so
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Originally Posted by nismomax98
yes i belive so
Oh ok great

No adapting for me then....LOL

So do you have any pics of what this EGR adaptor looks like?
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go to the NA all motor forum read the 00VI to to post its in there
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Originally Posted by nismomax98
go to the NA all motor forum read the 00VI to to post its in there
I read those already, but thanks, I'll check again
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Originally Posted by NOZMaximus
Oh ok great

No adapting for me then....LOL

So do you have any pics of what this EGR adaptor looks like?

There is no egr adaptor the only adaptors are if you are using the 4th gen throttle body and 4th gen IACV.
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