Hey guys,

I was wondering if you could help me decide what type of air intake i should buy. From what i understand, a CAI would be a bad idea for me, since the cold winter where i live would make the heating more problematic?? But regardless, im looking for lower rpm gain as much as it would be possible so i think a CAI is out of the question. Anyways i was hesitating between these:

k/n cone filter or an Apex'i?

and either an ebay ram intake or a frankencar hybrid intake

i was wondering if the difference in price was really worth it, and is there a performance difference?

 

k&n drop panel filter with hacked airbox and oscai sounds goooood, if not then i would go with a cai

 

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yup me too i was also thinking of buying a short ram intake but cant decide on either the Cattman hybrid with JWT Pop or this short ram http://www.x3racing.com/product.asp?...IN-AFL-N-BK-BL
which is a way much cheaper price. Any ideas guys????

 

oh man.... !!! FAQs !!!

its an intake guys. just pick one thats in your budget and buy it. youre not going to get any real hp gains. just a deeper throatier sound. no real performance differences.

and WickedMax3, your sig, shrink it. its freakin huge.

 

If you want an intake, than just get the bomz CAI on ebay for like 50 bucks shipped, if your a cheap bastard like me, just hack your airbox

 

^I've had many different configurations of intakes and am going back to using the stock airbox and resonator as soon as I get my car back. All of it won't be in the stock locations but it will be using stock parts.

 

Go buy a honda plz.

Or at least try to read the stickies..

proph

 

wicked, change the freaking sig.

 

JUST LIKE USING ALL CAPS>>> gets annoying. Size that b!tch down

 

So basically, you guys say that they're pretty much all useless, so just get whatever i feel like, since it would just be a waste to spend extra $$ for nothing?

 

no get the intake just get a short ram. a filter with a 3 inch pipe. thats it. it sound sick and pulls harder. then again it might be my imagination. get the intake and scare all the ricers

 

yup just get the bomz off ebay

 

Alex i remember reading a extensive thread about how a CAI or any intake for that matter did just about nothing. Then a man did a dyno with a injen intake...a place cai....and a the stock snorkel. The stock snorkel gave the consistent hp throughout the powerband. A cai will make the car alot louder but give no gains (actually he got 1 hp but ran a SLOWER 1/4 mile), same with a pop charger, same with a injen. The spiral snorkel postion "supposedly" is the key that make the air evenly enter the intake and give the even power gains. I have yet to a see a stock snorkel...an adapter plater after the maf and a CAI tubing running into the fender. I bet that would be a real HP gain...be the guinea pig and give that a try =0)

Look at LAWLOWS intake that straight piece supposedly chops the air up and makes you lose power and whatnot..run the stock black snorkel with tubing into the fender I bet that would be the best

 

Go and look under your hood and marval at your stock box and be glad Nissan engineers knew what they were doing. Forget CAI, hacked boxes and K&N!

 

CAI doesn't make winter heating problematic. I have a PR CAI and can only speak for my own experience, but a look at where I'm from and take my word for it. I didn't find a lower RPM gain - in fact, maybe a slight loss (butt dyno tested). I find CAI pulls harder at highway speeds.

As a newb, I was able to find all the info I needed for my first mods using the stickies, maxmods and google search. Read the archives of this forum and see why the guys are giving you a hard time. Before I started posting, I read back 30+ pages. You might find Doublea (from Montreal) helpful. Good luck with modding!

 

Got a link to that? Dave B swears by his cai. I like my cai.

 

hey jeff you have always been a big help to me but
Is this the same DAVEB that started this thread?

airbox thread

let me know what you think...after reading this Im unsure what the best its 6 pages long and has dyno info on it

 

Last I saw, Dave was running a cai with the stock resonator. That post was from 2003'

His last post in that thread

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=156

 

and in the same breath on that single post he says "Honestly, I think the all-out performance differences between all the styles of intakes is about the same. It's ultimately up to you on which you prefer to run with."

the man ran a slower ET with his CAI....his setup sounds good in theory and The only dyno info proves the CAI hindered him more than helps him.

Im open to your theory....got any evidence beside a non relevant 3.5 altima?

 

Exactly how is the Altima "non-revelant"?

 

Stock resonator was the piece in question, not the entire intake, just the mid-pipe/stock resonator deal, stock res > aftrmarket mp

 

with all do respect to you post its not a fourth generation maxima...its a different engine...with a different throttle body.... but granted its a nissan

When you experiment in science dont u have to have all the variables the same the make your argument relevant? you can just say well they are both green plants found in my yard...and this one grew better because I used this product. There are some many other things involved that needs to be controlled for any research to be deemed relevant.

...also the dyno on the 3.5 altima says with "mods" and "without mods" who knows what else the intake was comboed with.

i need more proof guys thats all

 

In the exact same thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=137

I would think the last post was his latest thinking but it doesn't discount what he just said. Plus all he cares about is the 1/4 time, which might be different than messing around in traffic all day.

 

it might be...and it might not be....

I would love to see some more hard evidence on this topic and will gladly admit if i am wrong until then I guess im done "pounding sand" ;0)

 

Did you actually read the article at all? There's no mention of "other" mods. And exactly why should they hide mods??

I'd be happy to see some dynos that you have found. I'm the one doing the searching it seems

 

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I read the article...look at this picture that you posted "mods" "with out mods"...am i missing something

here is so more information for your consideration

http://www.users.bigpond.com/pgscot.../resonator.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pgscot...orsAcoustic.htm

 

I wonder what mod it refers to? CAI maybe?? Links dont' work for me

 

im sorry my brain is working faster than my keyboard

this one will work!

intake info

jeff your an educated guy it says mod"s"

as in plural............more than one

why the heck would they say that ??

 

After reading the article, you dispel it because the dyno sheet says mod(s) vs mod???? Sort of a reach isn't it?

But thanks for the resonator article! I also put back my stock resonator but I still run the rest of my custom cai.

 

hey Jeff let me know how the cai runs with your stock resinator it seems like a bas *** setup if it works well maybe ill switch as well !

 

This is all subjective but here it goes:

I originally ran a jwt hot air and a cattman cai resonator. I liked it. Then I built my custom cai:

Then I read some dyno ressults from Zach that showed the stock resonator stores air for better throttle response/hp. So I put my stock resonator back on. I noticed a decent amount of just that. Don't know about ultimate hp but the part throttle is noticably better.

I like the cai because when it's hot, the car did NOT like the hai in there. Now warm weather is not nearly as detrimental to hp IMHO.

Don't know what "proof" you actually need to try it. You should already have the stocker lying around.

 

Alright, You guys convinced me,
All an intake is good for is noise and looks, therefore, i'll be waiting quite a while before i go ahead and buy one (because i will eventually anyways just for the sound), might as well invest in other performance mods if that's all its gonna do, like a y-pipe for starters.

Thanks for all your help guys, & feel free to keep arguing on this subject as long as you want, it's the best way i have to learn!