Demmit i emalied netcom.ca email like 3 days ago and no response i dont like it when you cant get a hold of the seller

 

Try the 1-800 # above that I provided. Apparently they are a little lax with their e-mails. I was told that a year ago and ptatohed can obviously attest to that.

 

wounder if i can reqest them not to paint mine with any silver ****

 

Better yet. Tell them you don't want the paint to come off on your hands and see what they say.

 

yeah, looks like a crappy job. i've had my Budget Y and B pipes for at least 2 years now, and they're fine. they were both of high quality when i got them.

 

OK here we go

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This pipe is sweet!
Nice welds, nice material. The o2 sensor bungs are pre-lubed with anti-sieze.
It came in a nice box, and the pipe had a plastic bag around it. The accesories were saran wrapped to the pipe.

BTW, by the looks of it, the pipe ypou got was returned by someone else for sure. The hack that returned it may be responsible for the spray paint.

 

Well any paint on the ypipe will come off due to the heat so i see no point what so ever to apply any paint to it

 

All the welds were wire brushed to, you can see it in the photos.
I don't know how warpspeed can make any money on these things.

Also, alot of people say get stainless. But why? Y-pipes get so hot that they stay dry. Any extenal mosture is almost vaporized immediatly. It is the exaust behind the cat that is suseptable to rust. Mostly because water is a by-product of the catalytic process. And it is not hot enought to keep itself dry.

Of course I have seen plenty of post the refer to a y-pipe that is rusted out? How can this happen?

 

I have a 2-3 year old budget and it only leaks cause of my wrongdoing. I wrapped the flex with header wrap and took it off after a year or so. Apparently it made some small holes and it leaks. I will still recommend budget to anyone. The only reason I don't like the WSP pipes is cause of the stupid sliding flnage they have. I've seen that thing leak or bend so many times.

 

Water, and CO2, are by-products of the (complete) combustion of any HC (Hydrocarbon) fuel. You would still get water if you had no cat at all.

Exhaust systems on vehicles that are subject to frequent short trips tend to rust out quickly because the pipes do not get hot enough to vaporize the water. It just sits as a liquid in your muffler and b-pipe.
When I use to live a couple of miles from work, a plain carbon steel rear pipe and muffler would last me about a year and half.
My wife had a 94 tempo that came from the factory with a SS exhaust. She drove it about 100K in about 10 years (only 1 mile from work) and the exhaust is still mint. It is my winter beater now.

I would recommend SS to anyone who: plans on keeping their car for a while, makes a lot of short trips and lives in a cooler climate.

 

I agree.
I would assume the reason the stock pipe lasts so long is because the pre-cats get so hot so quick.
My work is three miles away. I may be in for trouble............

 

sonic, our pipes look very different. Aside from the obvious fact that mine is a '99 Cali and yours is a <'99 and/or Federal, your flex section is a lot shorter and why do you have a flange on the flex section side and not the cat side?? How are you going to connect it to your cat? It's almost as if they flipped the flex section-to-cat pipe around backwards.

 

That is a loose flange that just happend to be slid up next to the flex section when I took the picture. I'll post a picture of where it should be at noon. Like Davesz says, it would be better if it was a solid flange.

 

I got you. No need to take a new pic. Thanks.

 

Dang. Those pics almost make it look like a used pipe they tried to fix. Maybe the silver paint was an attempt to hide things. Rust like that in the bunghole already? Pretty shoddy workmanship to say the least. I'm not exactly sure what the line is from the flex pipe to the cat. Why a line at all on a solid ss pipe? That makes no sense to me.

This is too bad, I was going to buy one of these next month. I have no sympathy for bad workmanship and even lower patience for shiity customer service. I'm going to rethink my Budget decision.

 

amen to that. i'm loving my topspeed. BEST $100 i ever spent, beautiful pipe...

 

LOL!!!!!!

Alot of people are asking this, but for 1 it will last longer, for 2 people in areas with alot of rain or wet winters would rather have stainless than having to fix/replace it every few years because of rust; the stainless resists the elements better than aluminized. I am not affiliated with Budget, but I could see blaming them if they have 4 or 5 y pipes that look like this but they don't. It could have been some new hire that put this thing together that swore he could weld, or someone could have been having a bad day and not concentrating (I'm sure none of us have been there....). I do blame them when they blow off the customer who tried to honestly and in a civilized manner try to work it out. I also blame them for not have a quality control supervisor to oversee that this garbage doesn't go out the door because it hurts their reputation. Sorry to hear about your y pipe man, but I think it is just a fluke, I haven't heard many complaints about budget and I will most like be getting a pipe from them or whoever is cheaper.

 

I don't think this one isolated 4th Gen y-pipe incident should tarnish Budget's reputation for producing a top-quality stainless steel y-pipe for our cars. I am not affiliated with them, but am extremely happy with the y-pipe I bought from them a year ago. If I were ptatohed, I would demand a new y-pipe and send the other one back collect.

You have evidence on this thread where others have had problems with the longevity of Cattman and Warpspeed too!

 

Apperently Jeff always writes in caps...
here is his Email to me
"GOOD MORN *my name*;; THE Y- PIPE 304 POLISH WITH GASKETS FED SPEC IS AROUND 210 US SHIPPED TO YOUR DOOR,THE DOLLAR CHANGES DAILY SO THAT'S AN APPROX PRICE. THANKS JEFF@ BUDGET"

 

Maybe his keyboard is stuck in CAPS.

 

Or the 4th Genners have stressed him out, lol!

 

i second this. budget has been great to so many people on this site myself included. i also agree that it was just a one-off lemon of a pipe. although, there isn't really an excuse for the customer service, i think that they can still be trusted. Warpspeed seems too cheap to me for whatever reason, that's just the image i have of them. while cattman is obviously much more expensive than i would like to pay. therefore, Budget fits right in the middle a quality part that will hopefully last and does the job.

this is just like when after the 8,982,172 posts on how people love their Illuminas, there was one with a blown shock, i think and people started looking closer at KYB. things happen. it's almost impossible to make 100% of the parts 100% perfect.
my .02

 

does anyone have pics of a "good" budget pipe?

 

This occurence seems highly odd of Budget...If they began to stiff american customers thats reall lowball...theres more of you guys than us additionally, everyone on the Toronto maxima forum is pretty much happy with their budgets...except for maybe 2 ppl...dsnt make sense..maybe some jerk off who wanted to go on unemployment decided to screw your order so he could get fired?

 

http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/519

 

Go to lssexhaust.com and click on Systems. The 4th Gen stainless steel y-pipe is the 2nd picture, aluminized is the 1st.

The y-pipe I took out of the box last June was truly a sight to behold. It was almost too pretty to install. I had it installed at a shop. No paint came off on my hands or those of the mechanic who installed it as I watched.

Regardless of what y-pipe you choose, I suggest storing the OEM away safely in case you ever need it (emissions, failure of the aftermarket y etc) as they are expensive to replace with OEM.

 

Yupp, that is the old school good Budget ypipe that I have

 

I think this may be a miscommunication problem this pipe is obviously defective, but that happens no matter what and where you order. The problem that potato pointed out is that the customer service was no good. I think that Budget is just crappy at answering emails. As can be seen from their responses, even to a customer that hasn’t bought anything yet (me) All caps not a whole lot of info. The kind of email id expect from Mexico where English is a second lang not Canada. Perhaps if potato called them they would have been nicer about it and offered him a new pipe. It seems they are still stuck in 1998 when ppl rarely answered emails and did so thinking email was a joke.

 

Maybe they use the Biblical method of typing - seek and ye shall find - and are uncomfortable with a keyboard, but there is no excuse for that in this day and age.

 

WELL I'M NOT GOING TO SLAM BUDGET TOO MUCH AS I HAVE ONE (APPROX 1.5 YRS OLD) BUT MINE DID HAVE THE STUPID SILVER PAINT SYNDROME WHICH BURNS OFF IN THE FIRST MINUTE, BUT CONDITION AND FITMENT WAS PERFECT. I HAVE DEVELOPED THE "BEES" IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. COMMUNCATION VIA EMAIL USED TO BE GOOD BEFORE LSS DAYS, DONE BY A FEMALE CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME BUT CUSTOMER CONTACT WAS HERE JOB, SHE ALSO USED TO ANSWER THE PHONE. BET SHE'S ON MATERNITY AND THE MECHANICS ETC ARE FILLING IN TILL SHE RETURNS AND EMAILS ARE JUST NOT THEIR THING! LOOKS LIKE AN ISOLATED AND UNFORTUNATE BAD APPLE FOR POTATO, SUCH A HASSLE SENDING STUFF BACK..........

OOPS I LEFT MY CAPS LOCK ON!

 

What do you attribute the development of the bees to in the last 6 months, MAXRB8?
Could it be a problem with the flex section? Have you modified your exhaust in any other manner? BlackCat and I are fine with our Budget y-pipes. Maybe its got something to do with your altezzas, lol!

 

tried the 1-800-256-4482 number at 4:30 pacific time no answer then FAX!

 

You have to call earlier in the day because 4:30 Pacific time is 7:30 PM in Mississauga, Ontario where Budget is.

 

I figured as much shouldev called earlier buisy studying for final

 

Well you could study harder if you stayed off the .org, lol!

 

no kidding! i am incredibly distracted by the .org! i feel like i have ADD when i hop on here... 'oh, just one more post, and that's it...' yeah right!

 

Nobody wants to draw stupid 2-3-4 trees and then delete items from them by hand, so i prefer the org :P

 

We're not talking about longevity of the pipes. Living in CA we know our y-pipes will last forever, not even an issue for us. So it's not a waste of money to buy a quality SS y-pipe from Cattman. Buying SS ensures it will last a very, very long time for us. Not fair to slam Cattman when the guy with the disintegrating Cattman y-pipe is living in NY, where it rains and snows. I believe all SS will rot if you live in rainy/snowy climates. Not Cattmans or Warpspeeds fault. They're cheaper than OEM too.

I really like my Cattman y-pipe. And like Ptatohed said, Brians customer service is top notch, you can't beat it.

 

NO good SS will never rust ,do you see kichen sinks rusting?.
and I dont give a sh$t where a person lives you make a y-pipe charge $400 and say its SS make the whole thing SS the piping is fine but every other part is rusting off. The rings at the ends of the flex are 70% gone now.

Also my b pipe(1 1/2 years old) i payed $400 for is scaling and flaking bad from rust . JUNK JUNK JUNK

i very p$ssed off my stock b-pipe looked better after two years. I dont like the cost cutting with his parts .for the cost that they are they should be made of 100% 304 SS. There are other people out there with probs with his exhaust stuff ,headers cracked and rusty you would think for $850 they would be 304ss but there not.

Ive spent $2000 + on exhaust parts for my car and now i need more this is why i will buy the cheapest stuff i can get my hands on because at this point whats the difference

 

have anyone seen SS headers for the stalk exhost ?