I just installed my SS budget Y pipe and its bad
First it has some of that bee in a can sound which is very disappointing
But whats wierd also is that it sorta makes a pop sound when i give it gas sometimes.

Anybody know what could be wrong that it would be making pop sounds?

 

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Ok I just tightened the connections some more and no more pop sound.
But Now i know that budget Y pipes are not immune to the "Bees in a Can" sound eather. Its not too strong for me but very annoying to pay 200$ for a pipe thinking itll be good and get bees.
On monday i will try to contact Budget and see if they will send me a replcemet one.
I spent all that time installing it and now ill have to install it again

 

I don't mean to hijack your thread, and I probably can't help you since I've not installed a Y Pipe yet, but I have to ask What does the "bees in the can" sound come from?

 

I wounder the same thing, I did see some weldng leftovers inside the pipe which l think that might do it. I hear also its the flex section that does that. But i was very carefull not to bend my flex section.
So i dont know, but damn its an annoying sound

 

Is the rest of your exhaust stock? If so what condition is it in, including the muffler? Aftermarket exhaust would result in a different exhaust tone and so would a muffler on its way out. I wouldn't necessarily lay all the blame on the Budget y-pipe.

 

yep, murdock is right. i have the budget y pipe, too. when i first got it installed, it ran perfectly. i didn't notice any bee's in the can sound till 3 weeks later. then i put on the testpipe and a set of megan racing cat back system. it's been almost a year now, and i haven't heard of any bee's since.

my theory is that your stock cat-back section may be a little restrictive and cause a bottle neck phenomenon at the cat section to cause that bees in a can sound, but i could be wrong. however, after i did the catback, it went well after.

 

I have had my Budget stainless steel y-pipe on for almost a year to the day and have had absolutely no fitment issues or bees in the can with it whatsoever. All I have is a K&N panel filter coupled with it. The rest of the exhaust system is stock and rust free.

Madnut, what do you have a stock airbox, hacked airbox, CAI, popcharger?

 

The rest is stock, Good condition not brand new but not rusted thru or anything, I would be fine with a different sound, but this is the annoying bee sound, high pitch ringing as if an insect is hitting the side of a can with its wings, happens at around 1800-1900 RPMS at higher RPM it disappears so its not a revving sound. I used the two brand new rings and a new gasket connecting to the CAT. And i was also very careful with the flex section to not bend it or damage it. I wish it was something else but it seems this may be budgets fault.

 

Oh ye i use a CAI, But really the air intake system should have absolutly no effect on the sound of the exhost.
I read a bunch on this on the forum and it seems to always be the fault of the flex section, Im guessing i just got a bad one.

 

Do you have the stock airbox or did you toss it out? Put the stock airbox back on and report back in. I think part of the blame may be attributed to the airflow comiong from the CAI. There is nothing wrong with the Budget flex section.

 

Man... thats so much work putting the stalk air intake back. I just dont see how it would help. The stalk exhost drop didnt make any sort of wierd sounds why sould the y pipe make bee sounds then if its fine. Also i could really dont understand how a cai can affect the exhost. Its not a short RAM so the amount of air flow into the engine should be almost the same. Also by this logic then if i restrict the air flow from the cai then the exhost should not make bee sounds.

 

Is this sound comming from the muffler and you think it is caused by the y-pipe? Because a stock exhaust with a y-pipe will have a little rasp around 2K rpm's.

IMO, the whole "bees in the can" thing is very subjective. The term gets thrown around alot on here and I bet there are 100 different variations of what the sound is to different people.

Having installed aftermarket parts on my I30 for a while now, there is almost no performance part that will leave the car stock feeling or sounding....it just come with the territory.

 

So why are you crying about a little noise at 1800 -1900 rpms for. The only time I am at that rpm, and actually its more like 2K, is just under 40mph in 4th gear. I doubt that you will ever cruise or maintain 1800 -1900 rpm for any length of time, just accelerate through it.

 

Hehe this sound there is no mistaking, thats why everyone refferes to it as bees in a can, becaouse thats exactly what it sounds like. I read about it before and was like wtf they talking about.... but when i heard I knew i had it, No its not the muffler its comming from the y pipe section.

 

I know its not a super big deal but the car is not suppsed to sound like **** at any RPM, im just not willing to have super annoying sounds (high pitched). The noice is also there when im in idle.

 

Well if the noise is there when you are at idle, you haven't installed the bloody y-pipe properly! I have never heard anyone b!tch about any noise problem at idle with a Budget y-pipe before.

 

and don't be lazy about installing parts!! you cried about having to reinstall the y-pipe if budget so generously sends you a new one, and also when rmurdoch suggested replacing the intake to see if that was causing some of the problem. personally, i love working on my car. it is a feeling of accomplishment and once i put something on, i always have to christen it with a little cruise! hehe. i wish i had something to install every week, but that's not the case. just suck it up, pull up your skirt, get a little dirty and do some work to fix your car. if it helps, then congratulations. if not, then just try something else. but don't just resort to calling budget right away. i don't think that they guarantee against any bees-in-a-can sound. it's going to sound raspier and a bit louder. also, the flex section can bend. it flexes with the engine movement that is signature of the VQ.
that's my .02
(probably more like .03 cuz it's kinda long.)

 

Hehe, yes i installed the pipe upside down... now my exhost goes into the cabin...
I think installed it properly, and i dont even see how i could install it imporperly, its a piece of pipe with 3 connections, even if i were to forget to put in the CO2 senors id get a plane leak not a vibration sound. Btw Idle when the car is cold is 1400 its almost the same flow as 1800.

If you have an idea how an improper instalation of the pipe will caouse bees in a can sound then please tell me and i will inspect my work. But from what i read on the froum the bees in a can have nothing to do with anything but the flex section, maybe mine got damaged in shipping i dont know.

I dont know why you need to defend the budget pipe when it is hand made and no two pipes are the same, just a week ago someone on the forum got a pipe with a huge leak in it.

And i have no problem working on a car i just dont like doing the same thing multiple times.

 

I hear exhaust wrap can help. Here's the link on that-

http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/520

 

And if you use exhaust wrap on your flex section, be prepared for it to have a short lifespan. Exhaust wrap is for racing applications and I have been advised by two racing shops not to use it for street applications as it retains moisture, traps dirt and will ultimately destroy your y-pipe.

 

OMG I am going to have to bow down to you and tell you that you are absolutly right and i think i am a total moron!!!
I think i have a loose screw that is vibrating and making that sound(not counting the loose screw in my head!). Man do i feel stupid for arguing with you, your the man! thanks for the input im gonna wait for the car to get cool and fix it. Hopefully this is the problem, but it really sounds like it is.

 

Chit Mang!!!

 

<----- Total Moron!!!
When i installed the pipe i removed the lil heat shield on the bracket that holds the exhaust up. But it sat on two screws, I decided to put them back on so i don’t loose them if i wonna put the shield back on. I twisted them till they were tight but what i didn’t realize that the washer on it was loose and ready to vibrate. So it vibrated and made annoying noise. Now i got rid of the screw and the Pipe is totally normal!

Almost seamless install, bracket doesn’t fit as nicely on the pipe as it does on the stock, it makes installation just a lil harder.
Awesome Y-Pipe sounds great! and looks awesome!

Thanks for the input rmurdoch if not you id bug budget for no reason.

 

You da man, madnut, lol! I figured there was an installation problem all along. Now get out there and tell us what you think of the y-pipe after the rpm's get above 4,000 to 4,500. That is once you wipe the grin off your face!

Edit - and by the way, your .org name is very apt, lol!

 

I've had the stock cat-back hooked up to my Budget Y and I've never had the BITC noise. This is because I had a muffler shop do the work. I could have done it myself but I needed to have a bung welded on the Y for my EGT gauge and so I killed two birds with one stone.

Note: blame my comment above on the full moon!

 

The only reason you don't have BITC is because a muffler shop did the work????

 

I believe what BlackCat means is simply that he has not had BITC. The word "because' was superfluous. He goes on to qualify why he had the muffler shop do the work and it had nothing to do with no BITC! He is not thinking clearly as he has just installed altezza gen IIs, lol!

 

lol. How's it going murdoch? I still have not installed my LSS Y yet. I got the leak welded two Fridays ago ($10) but I have been too busy to install it. Hopefully this week. I'll let you know how it goes and how the pipe sounds.

- Josh

 

I don't know how else to explain it. They did a crackerjack job!

Josh, just go and slap that FREE Budget Y in and enjoy it!

 

Get that sucker in, but don't get arrested! I drove my car like I stole it for the first 2 weeks!