ok, so i just got an alignment from firestone, it seems like my car pulls to the right...but i want to know about my camber...isn't it off n should they fix it?? i do have a camber kit. the guy told me that 1 degree wo'nt make a different. all the numbers are in degrees by the way......here are the specs

front left front right
actual before actual before specified range
-1.4 -1.5 -1.3 -1.3 Camber -1.0 - 0.5
3.1 3.1 3.4 3.4 caster 2.0 - 3.5
.08 .25 .12 .15 toe .05 - .014
15.2 15.3 11.2 11.2 SAI 13.5-15
13.8 13.8 9.9 9.9 included angle 12.5 - 15.5


Front
Actual Before
cross camber -.1 -.2
Cross Caster -.4 -.4
Cross SAI 4.0 4.1
Total Toe .2 .41

 

Read the stickys ... the specs are in there.

 

You are running 1.3 deg neg camber AFTER the alignment?

 

Its off. Why wouldnt 1 degree make a differenec if that pretty much what you need in order to be in spec? You'll need to take a trip back, dont want your tires suffering. I'm assuming you paid them?

 

yes......i'm going back right now..i got the lifetime..n if they say that they can't fix it..then i'm just going to say give me my money back...

 

Have you plowed into anything lately that may have bent any steering components (LCA's ets)

 

The cross camber is fine. Although the camber itself is rather high. Since you have a camber kit, might as well use it to bring the camber to within factory specs. Maybe the Firestone place does not know you have a camber kit? If they go by the computer, it would show that Maxima camber is non-adjustable.

 

i just went there. i had to argue with them for abuot 15 minutes that i need my camber re-done. n then they were trying to tell me that my tire will not wear out with -1.4 n -1.5 degrees. n i told them that i wanted -.25 on each...then they go..ur camber can't be chagned anyways. n then i opened my hood n then said...i told you guys i had one and to adjust it..n then they were like...oh....if they don't know how to adjust my camber kit...i'm just going to ask for a full refund..lemme remind you that i bought the lifetime warranty which came out to be like $155

 

neg 0.25 is a bit small for camber. 0.5 or 0.75 would be much better. But 1.5 neg camber WILL decrease tire life by quite a bit. Probably take 1/3 off the tire's life or more.

 

i want -.25 but i know that he won't be able to do -.25 because he was trying to tell me that it is toe that messes up tire wear!!! n then heh as this 240sx n saying that he will burn me no matter how much i will have modded it. n i go..ok..but i'm talking about my camber.... i know your 240sx can burn me....but i also know that this has nothing to do with my camber....it was a big arguement...n i think i'm just giong to tell him to refund my lifetime warranty n just have a single-time warranty.. i have no clue whats going to happen...this is ridiculous...

 

It's true, improper toe will burn though tires fast also. But big neg cambers don't help things either.

 

Excessive toe angle and/or camber angle will burn tires faster.
If both are out of spec, then the wear will be extremely fast.

About 3/4 to 1 degree negative camber isn't bad.

I personally prefer zero toe angle to a little bit of toe-out on the alignment.
I believe the factory specs dictate some toe-in, but having some toe-out helps with steering responsiveness. A liitle toe-in vs. toe-out will have about the same rate of tire wear, but I feel that toe-out is more fun to drive.

Toe-out means that with the steering wheel centered, the front left wheel points just a little to the left and the front right wheel points a little to the right. Toe-in means the opposite -- the wheels are pointed in towards each other.

 

i went back, n they re-did my alignment. apparently its maxed out. on the left its -1.1 n on the right its -1.0

 

Even with the camber bolts? You are either extremely low or your control arm bushings are shot.

 

i'm pretty low. but then it seems like my car pulls to the right. n i'm pretty sure that my wheel isn't completely in the middle. i'm going to drive some more tomorrow so i'll justify if i need to go back. if i do need another alignment, i'm just going to call up corporate n hopefully they can re-imburse me by sending me to another firestone or something. i really don't want to go back to THAT firestone. now i finally realize why i dis-like going to shops. They always think they know EVERYTHING and that THEY'RE ALWAYS right n know EXACTLY what they're doing.

 

Leave it like that, I run with -1 degree up front and don't notice any abnormal tire ware at all. It also handles great with that setting.