Currently im running on H&Rs with Illuminas, the ride isnt bad but the ride hight is terrible with my 18 inch rims. I was thinking about going with the Tein S-Techs, but then i started thinkin about going with a true coilover system. Should i go coilover? If so what ones should i get and be specific such as how the ride quality is, handling, ect. The Tein Basics caught my attention, how are they? thanks in advanced.

-Tom

 

go with coilovers. I wish i would have. There is some GDs going on coils.

 

yeah i saw the one for the d2s. they sound like they are really good. this may be a dumb question but what will i have to do about the camber if i were to go with coilovers? sorry i dont know much about coilover systems.

 

I have s-techs, and i like them. But I'm on stock rims still. If I had 18's, I'd prefer to have coilovers too.

 

ok...sorry for being such a noob but what is the difference between lowing springs and coilovers. . i know that when you get springs its not a bad idea to get new struts also.
so what are the pros and cons of each?


p.s. oh and i have stock rims.

 

http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php


This will answer some questions. So will the rest of the stickies.

 

yo, Novo, check this out for some info: http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php

 

damn you smokey and your quick keyboarding skills!

oh well, great minds think alike!

 

where is a good place to get the d2s from? looks like the group deal didnt work out or somthing.

 

Haha. Keyboarding skills. Reminds me of Napolean Dynamite.

 

if you get coilover dont get the cheap ebay sleeve design. Get a real racing suspension. I think the d2s are adjustable enough that tehy dont have camber issues??? im not positive on that but i havent heard anyt problems with camber. If you go way low the camber can become an issue. I believe camber plates are recommended after lowering it 2 inchs. My sprint drop is 2 inchs and i havent had a problem with camber.

Novo, spring lower you a certain height depending on the spring. Coilovers can lower you from 0-4 inchs possibly. There is a bunch of new coilovers out now. Just to name a few: d2s, JIC magic, KSports, Tien basics. FSTMAX has some new brand that i never heard of. He has a thread right now, it should be on the 1st or 2nd page.

the reason i recommend coilovers is because there so adjustable and tuneable. (racing coilovers) I believe the d2s are 36 way adjustable? someone correct me if i wrong, i think i am! But anyways they have been tweaked and have some of the best ride you can get from going lowered. If you do that math racing coilovers are only 100-200 bux more and are way nicer.

AGX Shocks = $440
Sprint Lowering Springs = $170
New Dust Boots = ~$50
TOTAL = $660

GD for D2s = $700 shipped to your door i believe. If i could go back i would have waited for the D2s or KSport system and got that.

Good luck all

 

I didnt see it. Can someone post a link?

 

since u already have Illuminas, i wouldn't spend $$ on new coilover just for lower drop unless you are serious about auto-x. in addition, if you are not going to play around with the adjustibility (don't even know if that's a word) of coilover system, don't bother to spend money on it.

get tein s-tech, the spring is softer than sprint springs and provides even drop. they run around $150 shipped brand new. after you swap out the springs, you can try to sell the H&Rs around $100.

that's just IMO.

 

I thought that group deal didnt work out or somthing.

 

Coilovers are by far your best option if you want a 2"+ drop and better handling. They'll be firmer than S-Techs/Illuminas, but they'll handle much better and will handle the drop just fine without smacking the bumpstops. Soft springs and a huge drop aren't exactly good in that regard.

The D2 GD didn't work out, but UrbanImport is selling them for a fair price. Ksport coilovers (which I have) are much cheaper, and have almost the same design; no word yet on how long they will last, but they're absolutely great so far. Both of those coilover sets have adjustable height, preload, damping, and front camber. Tein Basics have no adjustability besides height, and they won't handle quite as well, but they have a good, proven track record.

I'm inclined to recommend against S-Techs. But if you need to go lower and don't want to spend much money then I guess there isn't really much choice. Make SURE you get shorter bumpstops. Camber plates wouldn't hurt either.

 

im very interested in the d2s now, but where can i get a good price on them, UrbanImport wants 1200 for them, that seems high since i have heard they go for around 900 or so. ive seen them on ebay for i think 1k, is that good?

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=419677

there you go man

Im really not sure.. I dont keep up with it but i saw there was a GD for them

 

that sounds like a good idea. I know of someone who put coilovers on their WRX and have not touched them since they day they were installed. and they ride fairly soft and not a huge drop, something he could have gotten away with if he only had springs/struts. but if you don't plan to be lazy, they can be an amazing suspension option.

 

if you want to drop more than 2 inches you have to go coil over. If you want to be able to adjust height damper etc then coil overs would be for you. gto400no1 I'm pretty sure S-Tech would help kill that gap you have and give you a decent ride and nice look, and about $150 for the spring and just install and realign.

 

what about the ground control coilover sleeves. ive heard some good things about those if you match them with some nice struts like illuminas or agx's.

 

i was actually thinking about buying those of a fellow member in the for sale forums. GC/AGX's

 

someone start another GD for coilovers please/!
i thought the d2's werent as good as ksports for some reason? noise issue or sometjhing?

 

yeah, which ones would always click or something? i have heard very mixed reviews mainly from the extremes (love em / hate em).

 

i have d2's. they clicked for about 2 months. but then i decided to fix it n it went away. i just moved the spring part up n made it really tight. no more issues. and the d2's come with a camber kit already so you don't have to worry about that. but i'm kinda low n still have a -1.1 -1.0 deg camber after my alignment. even tho they did a really crappy job on it, i might have to fix it myself again.

 

D2s and Ksports both have noise issues if you don't install them 100% correctly. They also both have camber kits, adjustable damping, height, and preload, and approximately the same springs (same in front, D2's rears are a little stiffer). If you want D2s, call up UrbanImport. I seem to remember them selling the D2s for $1080 shipped (although that was a few months ago so I could be wrong). You can still get Ksports for well under $900 shipped from the GD here.

Spring-and-sleeve kits (which aren't true coilovers, no matter what anyone says) are sort of a shortcut solution. They will never ride and handle as well as true coilovers, since you have to pair them with off-the-shelf struts that weren't tuned specifically for them. AGX or Illumina struts would work decently, but it still wouldn't be as good as you could get for the price. The best you could do would be Koni Yellows, which would be great, but the entire package would be so expensive that you might as well just get true coilovers and have better handling.