DJItalianICE

Stone racing headers. Are these guys any good? For the extra $200 up on a y-pipe it looks like you can get headers...

Do they really provide a good 20hp? I understand that most of the gains would come from the Y pipe... would it be a good idea to upgrade the headers too though?

dabodyman

Never heard of them. Don't know if thats good or bad. What's the web sit, I want to investigate. Thanks

Tatanko

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Of course you've never heard of them, they came out years ago. As far as I know, they are *decent* quality. Not as good as something like Cattman, but decent. I believe MardiGrasMax is currently running them on his turbo VQ35 4th gen.

zander

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If you have the money and want headers go for it. But I wouldn't get cheap ones just because they are cheap. It's your freakin car and deserves the best, IMO. So what if you don't have that mod by the weekend, save a little more and get the best possible. Its amazing to me how cheap some people are here, going with second rate parts for their cars, its actually kinda funny because the max is a pretty nice car, not something you would throw an ebay intake and no name exhaust on, save these mods for the riced out escorts out there

Maximeltman

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gimme money and I won't be so amazingly cheap anymore.

Vlasic

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Please stop posting you obviously dont know what you are talking about.

Any stone racing (aka. SSauto chrome) is poor quality with horrible fittment issues. Complete waste of money. DO NOT BUY THEIR PRODUCTS!

The fact that they only go for about $200 on ebay should be enough to tell you that they are ****.

Umass021

I have them on my car and they are great. It was a noticeable difference. Thery are well worth it for the price.

larryseibel

iTrader: (8)

i have them too and they arent that bad. there where some fitment issues but i put them in when i was doing my motor job so it wasnt to hard. i think they let the exhaust flow alot better especially if you have a y-pipe because they are 2inch outlets as opposed to stock which is less. they are the same size as my w/s y-pipe and i remember that the stock manifold had smaller inlets and outlets.

sdoherty_tjm

what were the fitiment issues? just angled bad or something?

Tatanko

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No, YOU stop posting

sdoherty_tjm

so how was the fitiment bad?

Vlasic

iTrader: (13)

what ever...I hope those guys have fun when their welds crack, or when they dyno it and the power increase (if any) is no where near cattmans headders, or even a regular ypipe.

Tatanko

iTrader: (34)

Well DUH. They're $200. For the fact that Cattman's (if they were sold seperately) would be between $500 and $600 that's probably not that bad.

zander

iTrader: (2)

Again why would you spend money on something when you know its not the best? Has no one heard of patience? Why not take it slow and do it right the first time? Yes it is cheaper, but its still what... $200? Not really a small amount. Why spend so much on something when you know its second rate? It just doesn't make sense to me. And you almost always get what you pay for.

Tatanko

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If it's good enough for Mardi, it's good enough for me.

zander

iTrader: (2)

Thats great. Just doesn't make sense to me is all.

Supermax95

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I have a $350 cattman y-pipe, the budget is about half that price and i am pretty sure i would get the same result. Price doesn't ALWAYS determine quality. Just do some research before you buy. From what i've heard the stone racing headers aren't bad at all. They do give you gains and the fittment isn't really that much of an issue in the first place. That's not to say the cattman's aren't better its just to point out that $200 as aposed to $550 may not be worth the 2 hp and the small fitment "issue".

zander

iTrader: (2)

So maybe its just peice of mind maybe? I'm aware some companies sell the same products for way more then other companies, but you are right, research is the key. And fit and finish is also important, i guess.

larryseibel

iTrader: (8)

the only fitment issue i had where the egr pipe did not line up that well. i had to heat it and bend the pipe to get it to fit. other than that it was okay. other than that...over 1yr old 45k later and the welds havent cracked. i doubt that the hp increase is much less than catman. i like mine for $200...but they are gonna be a bich to install in the car just like any other header will be.

prince_starbai

iTrader: (13)

while on this topic...is there any other company that sells JUST the headers without the y-pipe besides stone racing? Seems like everyone else sells the headers + Y-pipe combo but If you already have a Y-pipe that defeats the whole purpose of getting another one...

tedo007

iTrader: (6)

they do have dyno on vqpower.com it shows headers and ypipe combo dyno gain about 17 to 18 hp

maximazation

iTrader: (11)

So they ARE also known as SS Auto Chrome...omg, i heard so much stuff about how horrible the welds and build quality are. i was crusing around on the honda forums, and someone said that there header was so poorly built that it ripped off of the motor.

Vlasic

iTrader: (13)

yes, stone racing = ss autochrome. back when i wanted a 240 I was trolling the 240 boards and everyone was saying how the welds were known to crack, and it had a poor collector design.

4banger69

What do you expect for $240???