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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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My muffler in my 97 max is rusted out pretty good and I'm going to drop in the 3.5 soon. I want to put some headers and maybe a catback on it as well. Which muffler would be quiet, but also flow well? (need to appease the GF) Should I use another stock muffler?
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Stock is quietest. You can pick up a used stock muffler for 50 bucks from the Classifieds forums.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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You have a 5th Gen right?
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by njmodi
You have a 5th Gen right?
I have a 5th and a 4th. My question relates to my 4th.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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cattman's catback. quietly deep and refined accoustics. i love mine. also, the piping diameter is 2.5 inches throughout with mandrel bents (best flow bendings). for your 3.5 swap, this catback should bode well for your needs and sounds. it'll kill a few more bucks, but for the quality, i think it's worth it.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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cattman's catback. quietly deep and refined accoustics. i love mine. also, the piping diameter is 2.5 inches throughout with mandrel bents (best flow bendings). for your 3.5 swap, this catback should bode well for your needs and sounds. it'll kill a few more bucks, but for the quality, i think it's worth it.
Basically, I want something that's quiet when it's supposed to be and sound nice when I'm all over the throttle. If the cattman fits the bill, I'll get it.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by foobeca
(need to appease the GF)
No offense dude, but unless she treats you in a fashion that no other girl ever could, do what YOU prefer. Dont get a quiet muffler if thats not what you want (not in defense of ricers). If I listened to my girlfriend, I would still be driving a beat up corolla.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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I had the Warpspeed "Q-catback" (Q is for quiet) on my car until recently. It was louder than stock, but not like most aftermarket mufflers. While it was obvious to most people riding in the car that you had an aftermarket muffler, it was about half the volume of any straight-through muffler I've ever heard. Those are VERY loud, with few exceptions (I'm not talking about idle volume - I'm talking about at 3000-6000 rpm).

If I had to describe it, I would say it had a deep, burbly tone. It was a compromise: you got a throaty groan, instead the roar you get with straighthroughs. I loved the sound at first, especially the low growl it gave at startup. But after about a year I got tired of it and just recently put a stock-type muffler back on.

Oh yeah, to facilitate excellent air-flow, yet keep it quiet, it has kind of a "fat-boy" design. It's not "flat" like the stock muffler, which tucks under the car in such a way that you don't really see anything but the tip. It's more round, so you see the "body" a bit from the rear of the car.

If you are interested in trying it out, I'd sell you my 1-year old "Q-muffler" for a cheap price ($30 + ground mail shipping? Warpspeed charges $125 new). It has a 3" rolled chrome tip on it. Condition is good, but it does have rust on the metal hangers and at the weld where the tip is attached. I guess the metal in the hangers and the welds is just normal steel, instead of aluminized. But it's built like a tank and should last 5-10 more years depending on where you live.

If you really want to keep your ride fully "quiet" though, I suggest staying stock or going 5th gen stock! High-flow and quiet do not go together. You have to compromise a little of one to get the other!


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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by foobeca
I have a 5th and a 4th. My question relates to my 4th.
As aussie just said, put a stock 3.5 ltr. 5th gen muffler on your 4th gen.
They flow just fine and it's quiet.
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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I've heard that Apexi WS catback is one of the quietest mufflers around and it can be made to fit 97-99 Max. Can anyone confirm this?
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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I fail to see how slightly larger, mandrel-bent piping in a catback w/ a resonator that flows better would be much louder than stock. I think I'm going to get a WS y-pipe and b-pipe and use the 5th gen muffler. That shouldn't be much louder, if at all, than stock right?
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by foobeca
I fail to see how slightly larger, mandrel-bent piping in a catback w/ a resonator that flows better would be much louder than stock. I think I'm going to get a WS y-pipe and b-pipe and use the 5th gen muffler. That shouldn't be much louder, if at all, than stock right?

I have the WSP b-pipe with resonator. The diameter of the b-pipe DEFINITELY makes your exhaust louder. It's not question, it's absolute fact.

If you use a stock or 5th gen muffler, your car will still be pretty quiet, but definitley louder than with a stock-size b-pipe. If you put on an aftermarket muffler with the 2.5" b-pipe, you will get a lot more sound amplification still.

Summing up: Yes, even your stock muffler will get somewhat louder.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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This is probably common sense, but, after a 3.5 drop, wouldn't a catback provide much more gains since your flow would be held back even more when you are displacing that extra .5 liters?
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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This is probably common sense, but, after a 3.5 drop, wouldn't a catback provide much more gains since your flow would be held back even more when you are displacing that extra .5 liters?
The fact is that either the 5.5 gen, or even the 5th gen muffler is a pretty free flowing already and a very good design, yet also quiet. Even if you upgrade the catback i doubt you would be limited by the 5th gen muffler.
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that chinese quote is from the sig of tauli from the prior posts.
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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that chinese quote is from the sig of tauli from the prior posts.
Then I agree with you... it's
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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dynomax super turbo mufflers are pretty quiet, may want to try one of those. Pretty cheap too.
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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everyone says 5th gen muffler but i still have yet to hear any sounds clip of it.

Anyone??

Im havin the same problem and i want my exhaust quiet agian, I got a silencer to fit in my current muffler but it sounds like crap, anyways my gf, mom, neighbors and others always complain, it even annoys me on long drives...
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT
everyone says 5th gen muffler but i still have yet to hear any sounds clip of it.

Anyone??

Im havin the same problem and i want my exhaust quiet agian, I got a silencer to fit in my current muffler but it sounds like crap, anyways my gf, mom, neighbors and others always complain, it even annoys me on long drives...
here's a clip of when I had a 5th gen muffler last year...

http://www.v6atlanta.com/justin/maxima/maxima%20117.avi
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:47 AM
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i second the idea of the warpspeed clone Q quiet muffler. I have the full 2.5 exhaust from WS the muffler is very burbly and deep and i like it. But it's not loud at all!
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:56 AM
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get a cherrybomb turbo 2 muffler. i have one, it sounds great, is very quiet in the car, and is really cheap. $18.99. it doesnt come with a tip, but i like that more because then you can choose. it was a great buy, much better than the straight through design muffler i had on previously.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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here's a clip of when I had a 5th gen muffler last year...

http://www.v6atlanta.com/justin/maxima/maxima%20117.avi

sounds good but at the same time kinda weird and alittle raspy at high rpms, why did you take it off?
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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anyone have a borla muffler? ive read somewhere that they sound good.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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i can send you video of a borla pro xs on my cammed out 2.4 4 cylinder if you want.

i have an acct with them as well. not too expensive and a really good warranty. shoot me your email addy its meaner than my max lol
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by risingmist
anyone have a borla muffler? ive read somewhere that they sound good.
I got one and I love it! Its fairly quiet but its definitely louder than stock. The most noise seems to be between 2 - 3000 rpms. Its nice and deep and sounds pretty aggressive. I got mine for only $69 and its stainless steel so I don't have to worry about it rusting like my old one. I've noticed better fuel economy too - I'll have to continue to monitor the distance I get between tanks to verify though. My exhaust system is otherwise stock. Tomorrow I'm gonna try and shoot a video on my camera of what it sounds like.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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which one did you get and where did you get it?
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Its a Borla Pro XS (#40358) with a 2.5" inlet and a 2.5" outlet. I got it off of Wicked Nicky's exhaust on Ebay. The tip cost extra though ($59). Its a universal muffler so they had to do some welding to fit it on my stock bpipe. I was pretty happy with the service at Wicked Nicky's and it came in quickly.

Here's a pic (I need to get a couple of better shots):

Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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thats a good dang price for the muffler, the tip is outrageous though. Usually i source them with the toucan industries tips. Mine had the black chrome oval. they include them with the muffler if you choose them together. Personally if he does that volume and gets that pricing i would go with Wicked Nickys and source the tip elsewhere.


I also have to say that warranty wise borla is pretty strong. I had mine on the car in the clip i sent you for two va winters, no problems (Rust,Blown Baffles, Body welds breaking) and no note changing as it got older.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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Yeah, the tip is too expensive. I wasn't going to buy it but I really wanted it so I just splurged. There isn't any place locally I could buy one. If you want to get a tip, shop around.
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