if u were trying to extract every HP u wouldnt buy cheap headers.....

 

I paid 50$ less for my fisrt y-pipe, and half of the 300
4 for my second ....

I see you're comparing to Cattman ... but why?

 

FTW

 

cause cattman is better, there really is no research to back up stone racing anything except for the fact that its all junk. many people, not only maxima owners arent the only ones complaining of their poor quality. and to whoever said obx is total junk it really isnt since all their pulleys and most of their other products are just retaged with the OBX name AEM actually manufactures their pulleys

 

Stillen equal length was the best ...

 

Exactly, but the manifolds are shorty manifolds like stock.

I agree that is part of the point. But since the improvement is most likely only from the y-pipe, then what is the point of adding the manifolds? Please explain that to me, and then I might be satisfied. Not trying to pick a fight, just trying to learn something here.

 

Thanks... I'll take your word for that. Aren't we arguing the same thing here?

 

 

well Nmex i can get the equal length design made by somone if need be . pm me if you want details

 

1st i added the y pipe with there was a good gain there

and then i later added the headers and there was also a gain there

i added the headers because i knew they would do something good for the car and they are better than stock

happy now

 

Almost... there is still no solid proof that the manifolds provide gains, but hey, as long as you're happy. I'm never getting these headers anyway. All the best.

 

no dyno no care

 

good for you

most likely you dont have the knowledge oh how to install them thats why you arent going to get them

All the best

 

No, he's getting headers that actually give gains, especially on the VQ35

 

Actually, I'm not getting them because to me, they are useless and provide no gains.

It seems that my attempt at a peaceful departure from this thread wasn't good enough for you. As for the extent of my knowledge, I guess you'll never know. Thanks for the cheap shot and enjoy your new headers.

 

Truth hurts sometimes ...

 

PLACEBO effect guys, I would want to "feel" some gains if I spent $300 and hours of my time too, but I spent $160 and 1 hour and have felt great since.

 

Well, they have been proven on a dyno to give nothing on a 5.5 Gen... ya might get a little from the y-pipe on a 4th Gen....

 

Fixed.........

 

You should have known better

 

Classic.

 

well i got headers and i cant say much about hp, best 1.4 mile time is with a ypipe 14.1 best header run 14.2, i love the headers but hey they dont do much if you asked me, i recently dynoed at 182 hp/194 tq ?

 

Ceasar, this might explain the lack of power gained from the older cattman headers you and i have



i will be interested to see what kind of gains the new Cattman headers will have over the old design

 

Btw, MrEous, I found the thread and it confirmed what you said and my earlier statement in post #57. Thanks

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hlight=headers

 

Sounds like something a competitor would say. I call BS.

When I installed my Cattman gen 1s, I took a good look at the fitment with the ports. I compared the gasket against both the header flange and against the head exhaust ports, and found no such discrepancy between head and flange.

The real issue is that the VQ30 in NA form doesn't really need the extra flow capacity that the headers provide. The oem exhaust manifolds and an aftermarket y-pipe flow well enough that the headers don't really help much. On the other hand, I and another supercharged Maxima owner saw more than 30 hp gain after installing the Cattman gen 1 headers.

 

i also call BS on that statment theres no way that they werent test fitted or anything else. Brian wouldnt sell somthing that doesnt fit right, CAttman is and most likly will be one if not the highest quality aftermarket exhaust makers for the maxima crowd. Take a look at all of his exhaust setups, have you ever seen any cattman exhaust part that hasent fit correctly? or had sloppy welds? or just poor quality in genral? i dont think so. nuff said...

 

No prob...if I had paid regular price I would have shipped them back. Thank god I didn't pay half of what the setup goes for.

 

Before install
174whp/189wtq

After install
189whp/198wtq

 

But thats not compared to a y-pipe, nor is it your dyno

 

i never said it was my dyno chart and thats showing stock vs y pipe and headers and its obviously an improvement

 

Yes, we know its an improvement and don't doubt that, but you're still missing the point.

If most 4th Gens gain about 10-12 whp from a y-pipe alone, the marginal increase of 2-3 whp from adding those manifolds is not worth the extra install time to some, if not most people. That was my point all along (see post #57 and also #74 and #76 by Nmexmax) and I believe is what was argued in MrEou's thread as well.

Like said before, if you want to sqeeze out that last bit of hp using those shorty manifolds, that's totally fine, but to most others, the extra hassle is not worth it. That's all.

 

i thought you were departing this thread

 

I did... yesterday... today is a new day...

 

Cattmans are better

 

i wish they would add to the smilies and have one say "hip hip you're gay"

 

Desperation come-backs now I see....

/thread

 

... ... ... ... <-- as close as you'll get

 

oh btw the rear header is equal length

 

 

the only purpose I could see in the headers would be if your revving higher than stock. Like 7500-8000 rpm.