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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Got to 132Mph...Now Problems!

I was coming from Vegas yesterday and I got up to 132 with the overdrive off. I couldn't get pass 120mph with the overdrive on. Well...after I got it up to 132 I let off the gas and began to apply pressure on the break pedal...slowing down to about 100 I heard a high pitch sound.

It turns out that when I accerlate to 30 mph and above the transmission or torque converter will not lock when I let go of the gas. Right after I let go of the gas the RPM will dip to 1000-1500 rpm and the transmission makes a "free revving sound". Right when I turn the overdrive on, the sounds goes away.

If I leave the overdrive on, the car shifts perfectly fine.

Has anyone heard of this type of problem...Thanks a bunch.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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its just maybe a wire problem...
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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let ur computer reset thats it...
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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To me it sounds like your screwed something up. Your asking for it doing 132mph with Automatic trans with 190,000 on an almost 11 year old car.

Doesnt sound to me like a "Wire" problem or the computer needing to be reset at all

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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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132 in 3rd(O/D off) is fuel cut, rev limit.

Sounds to me as if you're just paranoid, with the O/D off, it will stay in third, and that will explain your 'free revving' sounds etc..When you turn the O/D back on, it shifts into 4th..
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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I agree with Matty, now is not the time to start opening up the car like that. Why go that fast anyway?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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132mph on 3rd... , then you wonder why your your car acted the way it did. Sometimes the way people think in this org scares me. Sometimes I feel like telling some folks to read the stickies before attempting anything stupid with their cars but I'm sure that wouldn't help.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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On the dyno, my A32 can do 145mph in 3rd. ... .
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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No dyno print out = no care!

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On the dyno, my A32 can do 145mph in 3rd. ... .
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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I have the run files.

7200 RPM rev limit helps the extra 12-14 MPH

4AT = Loooooooooooong ratios.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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I know you would!

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I have the run files.

7200 RPM rev limit helps the extra 12-14 MPH

4AT = Loooooooooooong ratios.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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also the fact your car isnt using 80% of its power at that speed to overcome wind resistance lets it be higher lol
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also the fact your car isnt using 80% of its power at that speed to overcome wind resistance lets it be higher lol
That's why Mustang Dynos are better for tuning.

My point was that the 4AT A32 tranny is because it's geared way too tall for any real fun to happen, and when you have an extended rev limiter, it's makes it seem even taller geared since I can get to ~93 MPH in 2nd..
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Hmm....I did 81 in a 55 , and got busted. Lucky,cause I coulda been locked up for that kind of ****, but the cop was in a holiday mood.

If you got clocked at 132 in a 65 zone.... the tranny blowing woulda been the least of your problems......

I hope you learn from this experience ,like I did on the side of the road. Don't do stupid **** like 132 mph, on a public road, and start playing games with the transmission.

As far as fixing the tranny goes, do the computer reset , and hope for the best. Your symptoms seem like your third gear is fcuked up, so start saving money, and leave the car in O/D. At least your tranny still functions, so use the borrowed time and save some $ for the future trans swap ....
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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just a retard question... someone said something about going that fast in an auto like it's a bad thing... I know 132mph couldn't be the best for the car but what about having an auto makes it worse rather than a manual at those speeds?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jman7777
someone said something about going that fast in an auto like it's a bad thing
Who did? .
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Damn talk about a need for speed
I've never gone over 95 in any car, let alone my max which i love like my own child
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Your asking for it doing 132mph with Automatic trans
NmexMAX, matty mentioned it.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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been there done that....been to 145 in my 1993 VE 5spd...been to 160+ in my trans-am....bottom line is your playing russian roulette...with killing yourself, others and if your lucky enough not to kill or maim someone.....now you have to deal with the police.....if your caught over a certain speed its instant jail and impound of your car.....so tread lightly my friend....
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I wonder if he really was at 132..
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jman7777
just a retard question... someone said something about going that fast in an auto like it's a bad thing... I know 132mph couldn't be the best for the car but what about having an auto makes it worse rather than a manual at those speeds?
I think what matty was getting at is the car is slightly old, and he has a lot of miles on the tranny. So pushing it that hard might be a little risky, due to the age and mileage.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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I know exactly what the original poster is speaking about...Expect a dead tranny withing a few months or so...

Mine does this, and has for a while, but it wasn't because of a high speed/load run, but because of age and miles.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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There can be several reasons for your problem ranging from:

-The gears are slipping
-The shift solenoid is faulty
-The TC is slipping
-The TCM is stupid
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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I could go about 140
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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don't get me wrong, i've always wanted to know how fast i can go, but then i usually let go at like 120. fastest i hit was on my bike, 127, some scary sh*t lemme tell you. but if you knew that you couldn't hit top speed in 4th, you shouldn't of put it into third, i put it into 1st or 2nd onetime because i needed the quick acceleration because i needed to get out of a dangerious area, otherwise i woulda crashed. i would suggest you to change ur tranny fluid n filter as fast as you can. try to save it some life. but dude, don't do that stupid crap nemore, think about it, do you want to know how fast your car can go, or a car that you know you can drive
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jman7777
NmexMAX, matty mentioned it.
I never said an Auto max "cant" go that fast. All I said was maybe it wasnt the smartest thing to push that old of an automatic trans that far. Thats alot of load on an old tranny like that. If you were 5spd, with that many miles, I would disagree with my previous statement. 5spd trannys take it a little better than an auto... Auto trans's are driven by pressure, 5spds arent'
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 02:24 AM
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Sure it wasn't the smartest thing...but curiosity and a big open straightaway...

Anyways...I think it might be the torque converter. The gears shift perfectly fine and the car drives like normal when I have the shifter on D (OD On).

However, when I have the shifter on 1, 2, or D (OD off), the car will not stay in gear when I let go of the gas, but when I keep my foot on the gas the car is fine and there's no clicking sound. Here's a simple way to put it.

Shifter position = 1, 2, or D (OD off)
throttle = drives fine
no throttle = clicking sound, rpm around drops to 1000
thottle = drives fine
no throttle = clicking sound, rpm around drops to 1000

BTW, I have about 215,000 miles on my car...so I probably shouldn't try anything too harsh on my car. Thanks for all your replies and I'll try resetting the ECU tomorrow. For now, I'll just drive with the OD On.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 02:34 AM
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I never said an Auto max "cant" go that fast. All I said was maybe it wasnt the smartest thing to push that old of an automatic trans that far. Thats alot of load on an old tranny like that. If you were 5spd, with that many miles, I would disagree with my previous statement. 5spd trannys take it a little better than an auto... Auto trans's are driven by pressure, 5spds arent'
I'm sorry I disagree with the Statement made that 5spds are a lil better the auto's. Really where did you get this info. Just a lil history the auto will last a lot longer than a 5spd and you won't have to replace a clutch every so often.
Experiance with mine, I have about 170,000 plus on my tranny, I have sprayed on it with Jimes VB mod, which is a switch to make your car shift faster and hold more pressure. So you don't kill it, being it slips into gear for that smooth shift without a switch.
My car is a 1996, and I must tell you I'm not light on the gas pedal, the transmission has been flushed three times since i owneded it, I did replace the solenoids at 62,000. I replace the motor at 113,000 do to the water pump failing and when I replaced the Water Pump I jump time. Put it back on time but was always getting 20degrees before top dead center then replace the motor with 39,000 from a infinti I30. Put that in and it showed 20 degrees before TDC. So the moral of that story was the old motor was never bad. The Ignintion lead was giving me a wrong reading, go figure. I always use Mobil 1. Its about how the car is taken cared of... When I first got the car I did some stupid things like N slammed like 12 times to get massive burnouts, and now over 100,000 miles later its still strong so please don't misinform people that the auto is weak, just go put a lightenflywheel and a 2stage clutch on your car and see how long it last...
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I wonder if he really was at 132..
Probably not. My speedo has read 133 but it could have been 125 with the stock 15's on.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:47 AM
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I did 135 on my auto 4 am on the highway........It can be fun running your own "Wangan" with no cars around.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1996blackmax
I agree with Matty, now is not the time to start opening up the car like that. Why go that fast anyway?
Why would you go that fast??? Are you kidding me!

I would do that too, but everytime I am in an area to speed like that I have my kids in the car.

I made 110 for a couple of miles 2 weeks ago.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I wonder if he really was at 132..
Yeah really, not that I think he's lying, just wondering how much is speedo is off. Unless its been calibrated, there are almost always off by a few mph.

Maybe he was going faster...
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ryant35

I would do that too, but everytime I am in an area to speed like that I have my kids in the car.

I made 110 for a couple of miles 2 weeks ago.
My kids LOVE it when I go over 100! Most of the time they stand up in the back seat and put their arms up through the sunroof. They like it best on narrow two-lane roads when I have to pass a lot. Good times!











j/k! Even then they're not with me, they keep me from going too fast.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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I'm sorry I disagree with the Statement made that 5spds are a lil better the auto's. Really where did you get this info. Just a lil history the auto will last a lot longer than a 5spd and you won't have to replace a clutch every so often.
Experiance with mine, I have about 170,000 plus on my tranny, I have sprayed on it with Jimes VB mod, which is a switch to make your car shift faster and hold more pressure. So you don't kill it, being it slips into gear for that smooth shift without a switch.
My car is a 1996, and I must tell you I'm not light on the gas pedal, the transmission has been flushed three times since i owneded it, I did replace the solenoids at 62,000. I replace the motor at 113,000 do to the water pump failing and when I replaced the Water Pump I jump time. Put it back on time but was always getting 20degrees before top dead center then replace the motor with 39,000 from a infinti I30. Put that in and it showed 20 degrees before TDC. So the moral of that story was the old motor was never bad. The Ignintion lead was giving me a wrong reading, go figure. I always use Mobil 1. Its about how the car is taken cared of... When I first got the car I did some stupid things like N slammed like 12 times to get massive burnouts, and now over 100,000 miles later its still strong so please don't misinform people that the auto is weak, just go put a lightenflywheel and a 2stage clutch on your car and see how long it last...
I think you're talking about the DR mod (you should get a tranny cooler in that case, cause your tranny runs hotter) and just because you drove your car like a moron and didn't break your tranny doesn't mean it works that way for everyone else. And i'm sure a 5spd will last just FINE with a lightened flywheel and a STAGE 2 clutch...

My auto's shift solenoids went after a few months of owning the car. I did NO neutral-drops. No burnouts, or crazy driving. I never "manually" shifted. Always in D. I couldnt stand it anymore, and the $2200 rebuild I had was no picnic either. i went manual, never looked back. And, keep in mind the Maximas with the most power are manuals. I'm not saying there aren't fast autos, just faster manuals.

Going back on topic, the TC isn't hard to replace if you've diagnosed it to be that, it's just kind of a hassle to slide the tranny over the TC and remove the 4 bolts. If your car shifts fine, but you still think something's wrong, take it to a reputable shop in your are.

-Freddy
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Timz96SE
just go put a lightenflywheel and a 2stage clutch on your car and see how long it last...
I have lightened flywheel and stage one so thats pretty darn close. I know many boosted guys running 11-15 psi on the stock 5spd tranny's, for a long time with no problems. The 5spds tend to have problems around 16-19psi. Thats pretty darn good. Try that with an auto trans, and youll be stranded so dam* fast. Try even running 8 lb's on an auto trans and itll prob last about 6 months with a little abuse.

The moral of all this is how you treat your car. Yea an auto tranny will last the life of the car, but bottom line on any car that 5spds are 10 fold more reliable, macanically better than any automatic trans. made, especially the Nissan Maxima.

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I beat the holy hell out of my tranny, 7200 RPM shifts, bounce the limtier at times, manually shifting all day long, down shifting to engien brake, ... It has been my venture to kill it since I want a 5MT, and it took long as.s time. It's finally on its way out. 232k mile...
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I beat the holy hell out of my tranny, 7200 RPM shifts, bounce the limtier at times, manually shifting all day long, down shifting to engien brake, ... It has been my venture to kill it since I want a 5MT, and it took long as.s time. It's finally on its way out. 232k mile...
just use a sledgehammer to get that stubborn tranny out.
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Originally Posted by tavarish
just use a sledgehammer to get that stubborn tranny out.
I'm still saving $ for the swap.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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I feel as if the original poster just wanted to be cool and say he went 132mph?



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